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Who do you think is Baseball's class act (Good for the game) and who's the class clown (Bad for baseball). Do you think either way influences the price of their game used items? I'll start, Jeter class act and Bonds class clown.
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I say Jeter also. And i have to go with Manny for the class clown. I dont like the hole Manny being Manny thing. -
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Class Acts-
Derek Jeter - no question, one of the best ambassadors of the game
Brian Schneider (Nationals) - he's another quiet leader who is a class guy
Roger Clemens - despite his few detractors, he is a class act
Manny Acta - if you ever have the chance to watch his post game press conference, he acts the way a manager should, win or lose.
Class Clown-
Manny Ramirez, hands down winner - he dresses like a gangbanger. I think he's the one who started the whole du rag thing with the baseball logo.
Barry Bonds - He's a bumComment
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Worst player/explayer ever met:
Hnads down, ex-Phillies pitcher Rick Wise. Current pitching coach in the Independant League.
I have NEVER seen him sign at our ball park or even at his....NEVER. When asked, he either pushes the card away or looks little kids in the face and says "NO". I have his 1971 Phillies no hitter jersey and hat, and he refused to sign either item (I've asked quite a few times over the last 4 seasons).
After one game at our ballpark, he was walking to the bus and said, "I'm signing one autograph tonight....who's the lucky fan". He then kept walking and never signed.
In my opinion, he's a bitter old man, who can't get over the fact that he never made big $$$ and also has never advanced to a MLB pitching coach position.
Howard Wolf
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Manny being Manny includes being the most productive right handed hitter in baseball over the past dozen years so i'll take the clown act even though it's absolutely harmless to anyone and he is a model citizen.Below are some REAL clowns:
Class Act: Jeter,David Ortiz,and "The Mayor" Sean Casey
Clown:A.J. Pierzyniski,Barry Bonds,Jose Guillen,Steve Howe,Ty Cobb
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Class Act: Curtis Granderson
Worst player: Felipe Alou,Comment
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Class Act:
Derek Jeter
I was at the 2004 All Star game in houston, and at workout day I remember seeing all of the big names. There were tons of kids lined up along the dugout areas and the fence. The whole time, the only player I saw that was signing was Jeter. I remember thinking to myself, that's why Jeter is Jeter. You would think Ken Harvey or someone who isn't a big name would be signing, but it was Jeter.
Buck O'Neal
Always was smiling, and willing to sit and talk baseball with youComment
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I would have to agree with you on this, Jon. Obviously, I'm biased, but if you're a fan of the team he's on, you can't help but be pulled into his court by some very unique and endearing qualities. The same qualities that make you so mad are the same ones that make you like him. Bad for baseball, not hardly.
Class Act: I'd agree with Jeter. My first thought actually was Ortiz. Players like Tim Wakefield, 6-time Roberto Clemente Award nominee.
ClassClown: A-Rod. Best talent in the game, but is scripted and phony. Hard nosed "grip it and rip it" players don't like him. Jeter and Torre wouldn't defend the way he plays the game. Trot Nixon was actually quoted as calling him a "clown" - that's good enough for me.Comment
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"absolutely harmless to anyone"
As a Red Sox fan, Manny's act has gotten old. He's harmless because he doesn't speak to the media and keeps to himself. You can't argue with his production, but the general belief is that he quit on the Sox the last 6 weeks last year and on many other occasions has asked out of the lineup. Not to mention the times he's asked for a trade and occupied countless hours of the front office that could have been spent on other things. He routinely loafs after the ball in the outfield and rarely runs hard out of the box. It's played off as cute but he's the last player i would want a kid modeling his/her game after. I will not be sad when he leaves the team next year after his contract expires. Thanks, I needed to get that off my chest
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Of course, we can respectfully disagree as we offer our opinions to the class act or clown question. Depends a little on how you define class, and especially in terms of baseball. I would imagine some of the qualities that players like Jeter and Ortiz possess and make us think of "class act" also help define it. When was the last time you saw Jeter try and slap the ball away from a tag with his hand, or make a hard slide with his hands flailing over his head (kind of like a clown) as to hit the 2nd baseman in the groin, or yell at a player fielding a fly ball. My guess is never. That's why he's a class act. As far as that goes, I've never seen Manny do any of those things either.Comment
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I live near a Midwest League town. But for purposes of this post, I will only talk about players that have made it to the bigs or were here for a rehab.
Class Act:
Nomar - Article and photo below. He was rehabing in Peoria. Instead of staying inside the clubhouse during a rainout, like most self appointed superstars, he came out and signed for tons of fans.
Class Act:
Michael Restovich / Joe Mauer
Class Act:
Ryne Sandberg - Stood and tried to sign every item he could for people. I've never seen a player/coach go out of his way to sign autographs as Ryno did. He kept leaving, to turn in lineups / talk to players, and then would come right back and sign. I can't remember which guy, but some moron had a bag of baseballs that he would take one out, have Ryno sign it, and while Ryno was signing would grab another out, and hand it to him right when he was getting the other back. The team should have thrown that guy out of the game. Obviously he was a dealer, but of course I saw all of the other dealers from town there as well. Too bad there were 7 year olds lined up behind them that never even got to see Ryno.
Class Clown: Jim Edmonds - I never saw him sign anything.
Class Clown: Rick Ankiel - Signed one ball for a ceremonial bat boy, looked at my 5 year old and blew him off when he finally got the nerve to ask for an autograph. Good thing the rest of the team would just take the ball from him and sign it, as he was usually too shy to ask. My son still hates Ankiel to this day."We need rebirth of the American tradition of leadership ... in private life as well." "'Trust me' government asks that we concentrate our hopes and dreams on one man; that we trust him to do what's best for us. My view of government places trust not in one person or one party, but in those values that transcend persons and parties. The trust is where it belongs--in the people." - Ronald Reagan"
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A-rod did slap a ball away from Bronson arroyo's glove. If i was a-rod at that time i would do the same thing. Why not its a sure out so go for it. If Manny was in that spot he would most likey be 5 feet from home plate maybe not even out of the batters box or going back to the dugout. And for the second baseman thing every player does it maybe not hitting them in the groin even though i have not seen that by a-rod and i watch every yankee game maybe your talking about when he hit Dustin Pedroia coming up from the slide. And there's no rule in the book that says you cant say anything to the fielder while fielding the ball.Comment
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Arod is a unique character, you either love him or hate him.
As a lifelong Yankees fan, I'm glad he's on my team. I think his problem is that the media dumped so much hype on him when he came here that it has been hard to overcome. He has the huge contract, the stigma of an expected high return, plus sharing the spotlight with Jeter, et al.
Arod wants to win, pure and simple. He is without a doubt the best overall player in baseball, hands down. "Manny being Manny" is a nice way to excuse his antics, but he can't hold a candle to Arod, imho.
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