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gameused fan
08-03-2008, 05:57 PM
Hello all,

Probably a stupid question, but was hoping you guys could help. I recently won an Edgar Renteria game-used jersey on an MLB Tigers auction. It is MLB authenticated, and came with a letter from the team congratulating me for winning the game-used jersey.

However, when I checked it out with the MLB authentication database, it is described as a team-issued jersey. Does this mean they might be wrong in saying it was game-used, or can team-issued still mean game-used?

Here's what it said:

Database under TEAM ISSUED JERSEY.
Session Product Description:

Additional Information: DETROIT-EDGAR RENTERIA
Session Name: MIN AT DET
Session Date: April 14, 2008
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.

Thanks for any help you can provide. I really appreciate it.

kylehess10
08-03-2008, 07:23 PM
If the authenticator did not see the jersey come straight off Renteria's back, then they HAVE to put it in the database as game issued.

gameused fan
08-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Kyle,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I apprecite the insight.

In your opinion (or others), does that mean I can feel pretty confident that it indeed is game-used if the Tigers are saying so? I'm probably being a bit paranoid.

Thanks again.

tigerdale
08-03-2008, 07:40 PM
I agree too, if the authenticater didn't see it come off the field, its team issued...which is good . I'd rather see them error on side of caution. I think I may remember that jersey...seeing as it was april 14th, renteria changed jersey sizes shortly after he got to detroit, so they issued him new jerseys.

indyred
08-03-2008, 07:43 PM
I wouldn't worry about game issued. A few teams are all listed as game isssued from some recent seasons. I know some sets from the Braves, Brewers, Twins all say game issued because authenticator wasn't there watching them take them off after a game.

gameused fan
08-03-2008, 07:44 PM
Here is the jersey from the auction. Thanks again for the help.



http://pics1.edeal.com/images/p2/wl/auct_mlb/2004/img/sm/logo_det.gif (http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/User?id=detrList&wl=33072944&type=L)2008 Game Used Home Edgar Renteria Jerseyhttp://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581447med.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin(lastvalue);)High Bid: http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif$ 360.00
Number of Bids: (Bid History (http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/bidhistorylist.d2w/report?aunbr=95429777&wl=33072944))http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif4Bid Increment:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif20.00 Opening Bid:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif$ 300.00 Quantity:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif1 Opening Date:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif06/16/2008 0:15 EDTClosing Date:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif06/29/2008 23:59 EDTListing Type:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gifAuction Time Remaining: Listing font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none; }http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581447thmb.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin('http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581447.jpg');) http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581446thmb.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin('http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581446.jpg');) http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581448thmb.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin('http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581448.jpg');) Item Description
Own a piece of history from the 2008 Detroit Tigers season. A game worn home jersey by 5 time All Star and 1997 World Series Champion Edgar Renteria. Bid now on an authentic game worn #8 jersey of the 3 time Silver Slugger Award and 2 time Golden Glove Award winning SS in his first season with the Detroit Tigers . This item has been authenticated by Major League Baseball, guaranteeing its authenticity.
Proceeds from this item benefit the Detroit Tigers Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to enhancing lives though the game of baseball. For more information, please visit www.detroittigersfoundation.com (http://www.detroittigersfoundation.com/).
Product ships 2-4 weeks after the close of auction.

kylehess10
08-03-2008, 08:41 PM
As long as the jersey shows use (when you get it and have a chance to inspect it in-person), then otherwise I wouldn't be worried. I have 3 jerseys actually that are in the database as game issued, though all are game used. I even photomatched 2 of them.



Also, does anybody know what Renteria's new jersey size is? He's been wearing a size 48 for awhile now.

gameused fan
08-03-2008, 08:59 PM
Thanks again.

I received the jersey last week. There isn't a great deal of wear on it, at least not with my naked eye. There appears to be some (very) faint dirt on some parts of the jersey, but it almost appears like they washed the jersey before sending it off. I don't know, I would have hoped for more noticeable wear and tear to make me feel a bit better. I guess I'm just going to have to put my trust in the Tigers on this one.

PudgePollyMillerFan
08-03-2008, 09:07 PM
Perhaps this will comfort you a bit.......the jersey you have was first worn by Renteria in the first several games of the season......it didn't fit him well and the jersey kept coming untucked and it ticked Leyland off so he made him get a different jersey to wear which he has on now (or did until the team just released the first set of regular season gamers)........this information is directly from Marc who runs the Tigers authentics department as I was personally contacted by him about the jersey when he first got it.........also.........the Tigers/MLB set the date for the sets to be switched out so the MLB rep can show up and stamp them all with his "game worn" approval and MLB Hologram......if he is not there at the time it is taken off (which he wouldn't have made a special trip just for Renteria), then it is listed as game issued. Hope that helps a little bit....enjoy the game worn Renteria gamer!

gameused fan
08-03-2008, 09:55 PM
Now that DOES make me feel better. Thanks for the info, PudgePollyMillerFan!!!!!!

I just stumbled upon this board tonight, and am very impressed with the knowledge and quick responses. Thanks again to all.

larry bourget
08-04-2008, 07:01 AM
Here is the jersey from the auction. Thanks again for the help.



http://pics1.edeal.com/images/p2/wl/auct_mlb/2004/img/sm/logo_det.gif (http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/User?id=detrList&wl=33072944&type=L)2008 Game Used Home Edgar Renteria Jerseyhttp://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581447med.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin(lastvalue);)High Bid: http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif$ 360.00
Number of Bids: (Bid History (http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/bidhistorylist.d2w/report?aunbr=95429777&wl=33072944))http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif4Bid Increment:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif20.00 Opening Bid:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif$ 300.00 Quantity:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif1 Opening Date:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif06/16/2008 0:15 EDTClosing Date:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gif06/29/2008 23:59 EDTListing Type:http://pics1.edeal.com/images/wl/blank.gifAuction Time Remaining: Listing font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none; }http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581447thmb.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin('http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581447.jpg');) http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581446thmb.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin('http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581446.jpg');) http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581448thmb.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:openWin('http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog870/folder90036/img6581448.jpg');) Item Description
Own a piece of history from the 2008 Detroit Tigers season. A game worn home jersey by 5 time All Star and 1997 World Series Champion Edgar Renteria. Bid now on an authentic game worn #8 jersey of the 3 time Silver Slugger Award and 2 time Golden Glove Award winning SS in his first season with the Detroit Tigers . This item has been authenticated by Major League Baseball, guaranteeing its authenticity.
Proceeds from this item benefit the Detroit Tigers Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to enhancing lives though the game of baseball. For more information, please visit www.detroittigersfoundation.com (http://www.detroittigersfoundation.com/).
Product ships 2-4 weeks after the close of auction.

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larry.bourget@sympatico.ca