Vintage Bat Question

[b.heagy]

Picked up a Louisville Slugger from the 1933-34 labeling period. Pro model bat with no markings on the knob. The unusual thing with this bat is that it has the number 13 stamped into the end of the barrel, approx 1/2 inch in height. Larger than any model number or inch marking that I have ever examined. Anyone have idea's of what the marking is? Factory stamp ?......

[b.heagy]

BMH any info?

[BMH]

I have no idea, a little before my time;)

[Drasher99]

I recently found this bat online and paid next to nothing for it, then after doing some research think i might have found something worthwhile. The first photo is from the collection of Dr. John Gennantonio with a bat almost identical being the 4th from the bottom on the rack. here is a link to the photo.
http://www.sportsantiques.com/2007NATIONAL/JohnGCollection/marquee/BatRackSide2.JPG

I have mailed him but received no response so hopefully someone else can lend some knowledge. Being a Cinci collector I am wondering if it is in his collection as a Pat Duncan game used bat. Photos of the bat I found are posted as well
Thanks

[Antonio D.]

Does anyone know anything about this bat? I believe it dates back as far as 1948. Not sure about it though but have a look. Thanks!
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[metsbats]

Antonio,

This bat is a store model bat as evidenced by the "35" stamped on the knob and foil stamping on the barrel.

[rose14]

That is a store model bat that you have. Not worth much dollar wise.

[Antonio D.]

Well, then, does anyone know how much these are worth? Thanks.

[Antonio D.]

Can anyone help out if this is a game used or professional model bat of Frank Robinson? It's a very old bat. And if anyone is interested in trading/buying, then let me know.

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[dnrapp]

If you are talking about the HOF Frank Robinson. There is one problem with the bat. It says Vanderbilt University on the bat and Frank Robinson went to Xavier.

[Antonio D.]

Yeah, I checked into Frank Robinson's history and noticed that. So can anyone at least tell me if this is a game used bat? Or can anyone tell me why this bat says 'Vanderbilt University"?

Thoughts? :confused:

[Antonio D.]

P.S. Yes, I'm talking about the legendary Hall of Famer, Frank Robinson who played for the Cincinnati Reds during his rookie year in 1956.

[Antonio D.]

I have a Harmon Clayton Killebrew LOUISVILLE SLUGGER bat. I'm not sure if it's a game used or a professional model bat. Yes, I am talking about the former Major League baseball player who hit a career total 573 homeruns and inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Check to see the images below. Although, it was almost difficult reading the 'Harmon Killebrew" writing on the baseball, I managed to figure out who it was.

Let me know your thoughts.

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[Antonio D.]

I figured this was a Pete Rose Vintage Baseball Bat after closer inspection. Although, the 'Pete Rose' writing on the bat is totally faded, there are still some indentions in it that shows it IS a Pete Rose Baseball Bat. Not to forget that the 'PR4' abbreviation on the knob is evidence of a Pete Rose bat. I need to know if this is game used or a professional model bat. Anyone?

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[Antonio D.]

Anyone want to help me figure out if this is a game used or professional model bat of Chris Chambliss with a 'K55' indention?

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[Antonio D.]

Anybody want to help out? It has these letters inscribed, "Bill Almon P72"

Is it game used or a professional modell bat?

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[Antonio D.]

How much is this valued at? It's a Little League Don Mattingly Louisville Slugger bat. Thoughts anyone?

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[Antonio D.]

How much is this worth?

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[b.heagy]

College bat. Colleges could order professional grade bats with MLB players names on them but would have their Schools name burned below the signatue on the barrel. A nice mint example such as a Frank Robinson may fetch $100 more or less.

[ironmanfan]

it's a store model/retail bat

[ironmanfan]

store model/retail bat

[ironmanfan]

unfortunately, little to no collectible value

[both-teams-played-hard]

Add your e-mail address. The offers will answer your question.

[sox83cubs84]

The bat looks to have been used by Almon, although all the white marks on the barrel suggest BP use (the marks are likely tape residue).

The LS labelling is of the 1980-83 variety, and that would line up just fine, as Almon wore #34 in 1981-82 with the White Sox and in 1983 (and '84) with Oakland.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[sox83cubs84]

Like the Almon, it's also a bat that's gotten pretty beat-up, but it looks to have belonged to Chambliss at one point. Labelling looks to be 1984-85, and the foil-stamped name on the barrel, if I remember correctly, is a predominantly 1985 thing. Chambliss wore #10 for Atlanta in that time frame.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[sox83cubs84]

Antonio:

Regarding LS or H&B bats, store models will have one of three types of knob engravatures: player intials plus single number (PR4, CY3, MM5, as examples); length designation (34" for example) or a single number determining weight (3, 4, 5, etc.)

98% of the engravatures on LS/H&B player-issued bats are one letter plus one to three numbers. Examples: S2, P72, E161, C300, U1, K44. These numbers are assigned as model numbers that gain these IDs from player name and chronological criteria based on who ordered this bat first. H&B bats only used the model numbers on the bat knobs util 1975...for 1976-79 H&Bs, and 1980-present LS bats, these IDs are on the barrel (like on your Almon and Chambliss).

There are a few more ins and outs to separating the wheat from the chaff, but this site has a lot of bat collectors more schooled than I am, and most are willing to answer the more coplicated questions, and will get them right.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[cjw]

Unfortunately this bat and the others you have posted are not worth much at all. Less than $10 (in some cases, due to the condition, this is a generous quote) for the store model bats..slightly more for the college/index Robinson bat and perhaps also for the BP (with white tape residue) bat.

If you picked these up for next to nothing at a tag sale etc. or want to have them around for a baseball themed display, great, but if you paid more than a few bucks for any of them, hoping to make a profit, I would be careful next time. The stamping (foil) and length (with single digit numbering) are the tell-tale signs of a store model bat. If it is a store model, it has to be the longest style (35 inches plus, usually), very old, or in mint shape to be collectible beyond a few dollars unfortunately. chris

[Antonio D.]

b.heagy: So how much do you think this one is worth?

[Antonio D.]

So how much is this one worth? Thoughts anyone?

[Antonio D.]

Thanks for the heads up. So who should I sell this to?

[Antonio D.]

cjw: Thanks for your input. Actually I picked up these bats plus a few others because no one wanted them. I was hoping to make a profit so how much do you think the Frank Robinson and the BP bats will fetch for? Thoughts?

[Antonio D.]

Thanks for your input, sox83clubs. So how much do you think this bat will fetch for? Anybody?

[Antonio D.]

So can anyone suggest how much this one will fetch for?

[Antonio D.]

P.S. Other than when no one wanted these bats, I had to spend a lot of money on these. I guess I was fooled, in some ways. So I'm looking to sell these, if at all. Or if anyone is interested?

Thanks though. My best bats, from what I have read on this forum, are the Frank Robinson, Bill Almon, and Chris Chambliss bats (which most have told me are game used).

[sportscentury]

If you are talking about the HOF Frank Robinson. There is one problem with the bat. It says Vanderbilt University on the bat and Frank Robinson went to Xavier.

It doesn't matter. Frank wouldn't have had a signature model bat contract in college, so it would be worth nothing more if it said Xavier on it. Even in good condition, the bat would not sell for too much ... but in this poor condition, the bat is not worth much of anything

[sportscentury]

P.S. Other than when no one wanted these bats, I had to spend a lot of money on these. I guess I was fooled, in some ways. So I'm looking to sell these, if at all. Or if anyone is interested?

Thanks though. My best bats, from what I have read on this forum, are the Frank Robinson, Bill Almon, and Chris Chambliss bats (which most have told me are game used).

I'm sorry to hear this. I've looked at your many threads in both the Vintage and Game Used sections of GUU. In the future, it would helpful to GUU readers if you would create just one thread and include all of the items within it. If you have a lot of photos, you can post a different items with their corresponding photos in separate posts within the same thread. That way, everyone will have a chance of following along.

Unfortunately, I don't think any of the bats will sell for much, if anything. They are not highly desireable bats to collectors and they are in very poor condition. I'm sorry the news isn't better. I hope that this helps.

[Antonio D.]

sprotscentury: If that's the case then is it possible to sell this for at least $5.00-$15.00?

Otherwise, should we look into Frank Robinson's history a little bit more to determine whether he used a bat like this?

Thoughts anyone? I still think more research will be helpful. Although, Frank Robinson went to Xavier University, perhaps someone can shed light on whether or not he went to Vanderbilt?

Anyone?

[Antonio D.]

sportscentury: Sorry about posting so many bats on this forum at once. I was hoping to get more responses if posting them separately.

Well, I'm still thinking these bats may be worth something. Perhaps they're not worth anything to you but maybe... just maybe to someone else out there.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

[sportscentury]

sportscentury: Sorry about posting so many bats on this forum at once. I was hoping to get more responses if posting them separately.

Well, I'm still thinking these bats may be worth something. Perhaps they're not worth anything to you but maybe... just maybe to someone else out there.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

No need to apologize - I was just making a suggestion to make things easier on you and GUU readers. I think you would have gotten more responses if they were all listed in a single thread (and in the same forum).

I wasn't giving you an estimation of what they are worth to me. You asked several times for an estimation of what they are worth on the collecting market, so I gave it to you. I've collected vintage and modern day game used baseball bats for almost 20 years, so my estimatation involves a bit more than a shot-in-the-dark guess.

But hey, positive thinking, right? Go for it and let us know your results! I'd be delighted if you did well with them.

[sportscentury]

sprotscentury: If that's the case then is it possible to sell this for at least $5.00-$15.00?

Otherwise, should we look into Frank Robinson's history a little bit more to determine whether he used a bat like this?

Thoughts anyone? I still think more research will be helpful. Although, Frank Robinson went to Xavier University, perhaps someone can shed light on whether or not he went to Vanderbilt?

Anyone?

Again, it would make no difference. He didn't use this bat.

Acceptance is the first step to recovery.

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[momen55]

it is a pro stock collegiate bat, nothing more, nothing less.

[jbsportstuff]

Ant - you seem very very concerned about what you can sell all of these bats for. Here is an idea....put them on Ebay and find out.

[Antonio D.]

jbsports: You dang right that I seem to be concerned about selling these junk! :D Alright, I will post them on eBay and see how much they're going for.

By the way, should I word my ad in a way that will convince the average-minded buyer that these bats are game used? :D No, I'm not talking about lying... .... er.... maybe I am. :D

I'm not that kind of person though. So any suggestions and can anyone at least shed some light on how much it costs to ship a bat? How much would you charge for shipping 1 bat? Need some input. Comon folks!

[Antonio D.]

I felt if I listed all of the bats in a single thread including all of the pictures all at once.... it'll be too much for everyone to scan through them. So I thought it'll be easier on them if I posted each one separately. Faster responses, to be honest. I mean, that's how I would do it without overwhelming the average reader... .but that's just me.

Yeah, I'm sticking with positive thinking for now. Lately I've been burned by going to flea markets and garage sales and hoping something valuable showed up. Boy, was I wrong. That's not always the case and it's pretty frustrating once you get my drift.

So I'm looking/searching for some lost treasure while I'm at it. I'm unemployed so I thought I would try my money elsewhere and see if I can get more returns. Not easy, to be honest. It sucks but gotta keep trying. :D

[ironmanfan]

I would imagine $25 or so

[ironmanfan]

I think you'd have a hard time getting $10 unfortunately

[Antonio D.]

You bet your butt I would have a hard time getting at least $10.00. Anybody want it for $5.00 or so? :D

[Antonio D.]

Ironmanfan: Ok you said it might fetch $25.00 or so. Are you saying $25.00 is the minimum? Then what is the maximum? No more than $50.00?

[sportscentury]

Ironmanfan: Ok you said it might fetch $25.00 or so. Are you saying $25.00 is the minimum? Then what is the maximum? No more than $50.00?

Thank goodness. I was worried that the discussion of pricing Antonio D's bats might be over ...

[Antonio D.]

sportscentury: Oh comon! LOL. You gotta give me effort for trying! :D I'm sorry if I annoyed anyone about pricing bats. Well, folks, if you ain't gonna buy them.... then there's always ebay.

Thanks everyone! :D


Thank goodness. I was worried that the discussion of pricing Antonio D's bats might be over ...

[sox83cubs84]

You bet your butt I would have a hard time getting at least $10.00. Anybody want it for $5.00 or so? :D

I'll hold on to my butt, thank you. Kinda hard to sit down without one.:p

Dave M.
Chicago area

[metsbats]

http://reviews.ebay.com/BAT-COLLECTORS-VINTAGE-STORE-BAT-REFERENCE-GUIDE_W0QQugidZ10000000000937325

Antonio,

Check out this guide on ebay and you will find a lot of info on store model HB and Adirondack bats.

[Antonio D.]

metsbat: Thanks, I'll check that out.

sox83cubs84: LOL, very funny. :D

Looks like no one wants the bats though. Ebay is my only hope.

[yanks12025]

And just for you know i bought one of his bats, and he was a great seller to deal with and im very happy with the bat.