GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

[jordan23collectibles]

Grey Flannel is auctioning off this 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey, Size 48 complete with shorts size 36

http://greyflannelauctions.com/LotDetail3.aspx?lotid=18692

I have been closely watching this jersey for quite some time now and I own a size 46 (pic attached) which was graded by MEARS as A5, however, I have noticed that most of the GU jerseys that have been won on major auctions houses that Jordan supposedly worn were size 46 and the shorts were a size 38.

GFC also offers another GU jersey by Jordan, a 1994-95 # 45 Chicago Bulls jersey that is a size 46.

http://greyflannelauctions.com/LotDetail3.aspx?lotid=18625

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I was just curious if Jordan ever wore a size 48 at all during the 1990-1997 season when Champion used to manufacture uniforms for the Bulls.

The size 46 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey was sold on the following auctions:

American Memorabilia Auction dated October 21, 2004, Lot 47 and sold for $5,845.00 - Size 46

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auction_Item.asp?Auction_ID=7521

Hunt Auctions dated August 19-20, 2005, Lot 187A and sold for $3,200.00 - Size 46

http://www.huntauctions.com/online/imageviewer.cfm?auction_num=23&lot_num=187&lot_qual=a

SCP Auctions dated June 24, 2006, Lot 141, Sale # N08178 and sold for $13,200.00 - Size 46 (I presume this is the same jersey that was sold at the Hunt Auctions with a double signature)

Vintage Authentics - (Running to Greatness Auction) dated July 13, 2006, Lot 432 and sold for $5,500.00 - Size 46 (I presume this is the same jersey that was sold at the AMI auctions, no signature) - I have the catalog for this auction.

The big question is did Jordan wear a Size 46 or 48 Jersey and a Size 36 or 38 shorts during the 1996 All Star Games?

Thanks a lot...

jordan23collectibles

[designedexclusively]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I've never heard of jordan wearing any champion jersey in anything other then his issued size from 90-97 which was 46 plus 3, I think his shorts were always 36.

Not sure what to make of that 48.

[lund6771]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I think a bigger question might be what the odds are that all of these auctioned off were actually ever worn

[RKGIBSON]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I am no Jordan expert but I did own a 97/98 uniform with a team letter. The Nike jersey was a size 50 +2". The Nike shorts were a size 42 +2" inseam. I do have pictures of the tagging.

Roger

[jordan23collectibles]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I think a bigger question might be what the odds are that all of these auctioned off were actually ever worn

It is very hard to prove which jersey is the real thing, however, how many were used in the pictorial prior to the game and how many were used in the game?

The only person that can answer that will be Jordan himself.

The question being asked in this forum is if he wore a size 46 or a size 48?

Thanks for your input and to the other members who are reading this thread.

[jordan23collectibles]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I am no Jordan expert but I did own a 97/98 uniform with a team letter. The Nike jersey was a size 50 +2". The Nike shorts were a size 42 +2" inseam. I do have pictures of the tagging.

Roger

Roger,
Thanks for the input, I also have a Chicago Bulls Champion 93-94 jersey issued for MJ that was donated to the Chicago White Sox. This has a CWS LOA with his old signature and this is a size 46. This was during his 1st retirement when he ventured into baseball.
I am just trying to find out if MJ ever wore a size 48 in the 1990-97 season.
Theo

[RKGIBSON]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

For whatever it is worth, in the "Collecting Micheal Jordan Memorabilia" book, they have a list of jersey/year/sizes and some pictures. It stops at 97 with sizes. It has a picture of a 96 All Stars jersey that is Champion and a size 46+3. Others are as follows:
84-5 Rawlings 42
86-7 Sand Knit 44+3
88-8 Sand Knit 44+2
89-90 Sand Knit 44+2
90-1 Champion 44+2
91 All Star Champion 44+3
94 All Star Champion 46+3
95-6 Champion 46+3
96-7 Champion 46+3

Roger

[lund6771]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

Just like Roger's...I also haved a 97 that I bought from the Bulls that is a size 50...but that is a Nike

I also remember being at one of the first BullsFests in 92 where they had an awesome home white with great wear....that jersey was a 46

[jordan23collectibles]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I just recently joined MEARS as a member and have asked Troy Kinunen if they have authenticated a size 48 Jordan Jersey in the past. The response I received was that all the jerseys issued with a valid LOO in their database were all size 46. So where did this size 48 come from?

[jordan23collectibles]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

As per the latest thread on GU Forum the lot was pulled out by Grey Flannel.

However, I had the privelege to obtain this link explaining the differences between the 1996 All Star jersey offered by Grey Flannel versus the actual GU jersey that MJ wore in the 1996 All Star games.

This review was meant to educate others and not make a mockery of any auction house.

http://www.rareair23.com/jordangameuseduniforms.html

Regards,

jordan23collectibles

[mb23]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

It was a shame that this lot even passed any of the GF people without anyone noticing that the shoes themselves were not even game issued let alone game worn. The proper coding for any game issued shoes for Mike should always follow a certain date or should have a Sample Ftps on the tag and this pair being a special make-up for him to wear that weekend the tag was handtyped size and serial and also had a stitched 23 on the back heel instead of the normal etched on.

Thanks to that Rairair23 and the great job done on helping all of us with Michael and his signature, that website has been a great asset to me and also a great read with tons of knowledge.Thank you!

[mmonte4]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

"this pair being a special make-up for him to wear that weekend the tag was handtyped size and serial and also had a stitched 23 on the back heel instead of the normal etched on"


Please provide your source for this information.

[mb23]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

"this pair being a special make-up for him to wear that weekend the tag was handtyped size and serial and also had a stitched 23 on the back heel instead of the normal etched on"


Please provide your source for this information.

My sourse for this is Myself being that i own a 1996 Allstar Issued Air Jordan XI.

(here is a picture of my inside tag which reads 960112 FTPS handtyped)..there is also practice pairs of these shoes worn throughout the season which also had different coding. the practice coding were not handtyped and did not have the stitched 23 on back heel.


(here is a picture of the stitched 23 on back heel)..hope this helps.


Regards
Mike

[mmonte4]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

what is your provenance? Do you own only one shoe or both pairs? i have never seen a photomatch of the stitching.

[mb23]

Re: GFC 1996 All Star Michael Jordan Jersey - Size 46 or Size 48 Jersey???

I do not have any provance I have been collecting Jordan for some time and mainly game used sneakers..Unfortunatly in our hobby there aren't many reference sites to see actual tags and associated coding with MJ game worn sneakers but they always have a special coding and with a little hard work and some searching you can find them. I do know there is a gentleman on this board who owns the 1994 Air Jordan game issued cleat who can show you the same exact tagging and coding handtyped only difference being the year. Almost every pair that is made up with differnces from the regular production of that same model line has handtyped coding.

Also my pair, the front of each shoe is pointed instead of squared as in regular production of that shoe.

i will include a few photos of some tagging i have saved over the years and a link to a similar model as mine but this model was made in 1995 for the movie space jam.


1996 Air Jordan XI (spacejam movie) made in late 95, (95011 ftps) also you can see here the pointed toebox that i was refering to on my pair.

http://www.jordanextreme.com/nikegallery/AJ11/aj11-1996SpaceJams/aj11-1996Spacejams.htm

1994 Air Jordan IX Cleat Game issued and used (94011 ftps)


1992 Air Jordan VII Game issued (92011 ftps)


As you can see the coding always follows the year before just replacing the first 2 #'s on a year to year basis

i hope this helps a bit and if i can help more and you have any questions please pm me and i will gladly try to hel.

Thank You
Mike