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joelsabi
09-23-2008, 03:28 PM
what items are photomatchable? i can see bats being photo matchedbased on bat markings but what other items can be photomatched. i see it being even tougher for basketball and football items.

there has to be something specific that says this is an exact match rather than a type match.

example would be appreciated.

GarkoCollector
09-23-2008, 04:39 PM
Jerseys CAN be photomatched if theres some sort of marking. Usually a tear or stitch mark, place where the jersey has been repaired, etc.

Lokee
09-23-2008, 08:47 PM
striped jersey's are pretty easy to photomatch.

joelsabi
09-24-2008, 09:35 AM
striped jersey's are pretty easy to photomatch.

these is a nice story on matching the jersey used by roger maris to break babe ruth single season hr record. i read it in the smithsonian baseball book by wong. the truth is in the stripes.


non-stripes seems harded to go for positioning of patches, nameplates and numbers. is that correct?

joelsabi
09-24-2008, 02:34 PM
was hoping for more input. i was hoping to gather a list of items that could be photomatched.

Has anyone ever photomatched a fielding glove, cleats, batting glove, pants, hat, wristband, baseball, or a batting helmet? What were you looking for? Are any of these item impossible to photomatch and more likely can just be called a style match?

kylehess10
09-24-2008, 02:53 PM
was hoping for more input. i was hoping to gather a list of items that could be photomatched.

Has anyone ever photomatched a fielding glove, cleats, batting glove, pants, hat, wristband, baseball, or a batting helmet? What were you looking for? Are any of these item impossible to photomatch and more likely can just be called a style match?



From that list, I've been able to photomatch 2 pairs of pants, 1 helmet, and 2 hats. And I've been able to style-match a wristband and baseball from the play they came from.

trsent
09-24-2008, 02:53 PM
was hoping for more input. i was hoping to gather a list of items that could be photomatched.

Has anyone ever photomatched a fielding glove, cleats, batting glove, pants, hat, wristband, baseball, or a batting helmet? What were you looking for? Are any of these item impossible to photomatch and more likely can just be called a style match?

Anything possibly could be photo-matched, but most items can only be style-matched. I had two Brian Urlacher game used, autographed, dated and inscribed jerseys last year with grass stains that were dead on photo-matches.

Most items can only be style matched. People always are pulling at strings stating they have found a dead-on photo match, but they are just hoping. Most items are only able to be style-matched as the items photos are found of are just not close enough?

BULBUS
09-24-2008, 03:00 PM
Anything can be photomatched as long as it has a distinctive mark that can be see in a photo.

joelsabi
09-24-2008, 03:35 PM
From that list, I've been able to photomatch 2 pairs of pants, 1 helmet, and 2 hats. And I've been able to style-match a wristband and baseball from the play they came from.

kyle how did you photo match a hat? what were you looking for or at?

kylehess10
09-24-2008, 03:49 PM
kyle how did you photo match a hat? what were you looking for or at?


Here's the two hats I photomatched......

the first is a Daryle Ward Braves hat. He only played 1 month in a Braves uniform, so I knew it had to be his anyways, but, there's a loose stitch on it which appears to match:


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/wardhat1-medium.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/72026579.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/wardhat4.JPG







and the other hat is of Latroy Hawkins......and you can see the match without even asking:


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/hawkinshat1.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/hawkinshat6.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/hawkinshat5.jpg

trsent
09-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Here's the two hats I photomatched......

the first is a Daryle Ward Braves hat. He only played 1 month in a Braves uniform, so I knew it had to be his anyways, but, there's a loose stitch on it which appears to match:


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/wardhat1-medium.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/72026579.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/wardhat4.JPG







and the other hat is of Latroy Hawkins......and you can see the match without even asking:


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/hawkinshat1.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/hawkinshat6.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/hawkinshat5.jpg

Kyle, this is what I was talking about - The first one is a style-match but the stitch makes it really close but no way it is a dead on photo match.

As for the second cap, I think you should blow-up the initials and place them side by side for all to inspect. Pretty cool cap either way. What did "RS" stand for?

I am still waiting for a photo-match for my bat. Then again, I do not think I have even opened the USPS box yet!

kylehess10
09-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Kyle, this is what I was talking about - The first one is a style-match but the stitch makes it really close but no way it is a dead on photo match.

As for the second cap, I think you should blow-up the initials and place them side by side for all to inspect. Pretty cool cap either way. What did "RS" stand for?

I am still waiting for a photo-match for my bat. Then again, I do not think I have even opened the USPS box yet!



I do realize that the Ward wasn't a dead-on photomatch, since I'm sure lots of hats would have loose stitches like that, but I still call it a photomatch being that he most-likely wore only one hat during his whole tenure with the Braves. Daryle Ward actually has a personal myspace, and I sent him a message asking him about a jersey I have of his plus this hat, but he read the message and didn't respond. As for the "RS" on the Hawkins hat, I'm still trying to figure out what it means. I guess the only way is to ask him in-person

trsent
09-24-2008, 04:03 PM
I do realize that the Ward wasn't a dead-on photomatch, since I'm sure lots of hats would have loose stitches like that, but I still call it a photomatch being that he most-likely wore only one hat during his whole tenure with the Braves. Daryle Ward actually has a personal myspace, and I sent him a message asking him about a jersey I have of his plus this hat, but he read the message and didn't respond. As for the "RS" on the Hawkins hat, I'm still trying to figure out what it means. I guess the only way is to ask him in-person

He doesn't also have a MySpace page?

My issues with the concept is a "photo-match" has to be dead on, no chance it is not the same exact item. A cap is very difficult to photo-match. A style-match is more appropriate as it doesn't give any false hope to buyers.

I know you are not selling these items, but when sellers abuse the term "photo-match" it is not fair if the item is not a dead on photo-match.

bigtruck260
09-24-2008, 04:32 PM
He doesn't also have a MySpace page?

My issues with the concept is a "photo-match" has to be dead on, no chance it is not the same exact item. A cap is very difficult to photo-match. A style-match is more appropriate as it doesn't give any false hope to buyers.

I know you are not selling these items, but when sellers abuse the term "photo-match" it is not fair if the item is not a dead on photo-match.

Kyle -

I would have no problem buying that hat as photo-matched based on your photos. You are gaining a reputation as a person who uses your resources and time...and you would save me money by doing so. Not to mention, I don't think you are planning on making a mint from that Ward hat.

Joel -

Totally understand your point too. For me, If I am buying an item for my collection (not to sell immediately), it's OK, but if I am selling, I would probably post photos and let the buyer decide without leading them on.

I've seen folks do this before, and I don't think it's unethical.

trsent
09-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Joel -

Totally understand your point too. For me, If I am buying an item for my collection (not to sell immediately), it's OK, but if I am selling, I would probably post photos and let the buyer decide without leading them on.

I've seen folks do this before, and I don't think it's unethical.

As usual - You are correct, sir!

joelsabi
09-24-2008, 08:49 PM
Jerseys CAN be photomatched if theres some sort of marking. Usually a tear or stitch mark, place where the jersey has been repaired, etc.

I can see this for football jerseys.

do baseball jersey every get repaired?

karamaxjoe
09-24-2008, 10:21 PM
Pinstriping is the number one photomatching techniqe. According to the experts, no pinstriped jersey is the same.

kylehess10
09-24-2008, 10:53 PM
I can see this for football jerseys.

do baseball jersey every get repaired?


No, but they can remain unwashed. Also there are loose stitches that can be photomatched. I've photomatched 2 un-pinstriped jerseys before just from loose stitches, and one of them from being unwashed.

Jags Fan Dan
09-27-2008, 06:53 AM
I think cleats are more difficult, but I was able to photo match these cleats:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15049&stc=1&d=1216383045&SSImageQuality=Full http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15050&stc=1&d=1216383065&SSImageQuality=Full