Lou Lampson - He'll Work With You

[otismalibu]

Check out this home Dr. J. 86-87 Sand-Knit jersey.

http://sports.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=710&Lot_No=20019


Now check out this road Dr. J. 86-87 Sand-Knit jersey Lou authenticated for BRSZ.

Compare the front numbers, the NOB, the Sand-Knit tag and the size. And check out the paragraph near the bottom, regarding size. Could someone sticky this in the FBI thread?


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[kingjammy24]

i've seen numerous lampson loas with similar statements. "material is wrong, number is incorrect, size is incorrect, logo is missing, patch is missing. but it's an acceptable representation". given some of the things i've read in his loas, i'm not sure what would ever make an item unacceptable to lou.

and i think back to lou's comment in chris nerat's interview: "some people don't want to pay you if you turn an item down".

maybe an unacceptable item is one where lou doesn't get paid?

rudy.

[aeneas01]

speaking of lampson, did anyone catch his piece "the good, the bad and the ugly" featured in the last few pages of american memorabilia's latest catalog? i didn't realize lampson did this sort of thing - is it a recurring feature of ami' catalogs? anyway i enjoyed the read...

http://issuu.com/americanmemorabilia.com/docs/americanmemorabilia.com/128?mode=embed&documentId=080910232321-b619506027564151951e340080cc36c9&layout=grey

[kingjammy24]

speaking of lampson, did anyone catch his piece "the good, the bad and the ugly" featured in the last few pages of american memorabilia's latest catalog? i didn't realize lampson did this sort of thing - is it a recurring feature of ami' catalogs? anyway i enjoyed the read...

http://issuu.com/americanmemorabilia.com/docs/americanmemorabilia.com/128?mode=embed&documentId=080910232321-b619506027564151951e340080cc36c9&layout=grey

hi robert

i've seen a few "good, bad, ugly" features in AMI's catalogs. i think they're meant to show the collecting community that lou isn't the blithering idiot his work shows him to be. lou can go ahead and screw up 20 jerseys but then he'll take 3 and put them in "good, bad, ugly" and get them right and this is somehow meant to pacify or reassure folks, including the ones who've been burnt by his handiwork.

at a minimum, i find it bewildering because it shows that lampson has the knowledge when it comes to football gamers. if the man has the knowledge and yet continues to screw up, then the ineptitude excuse flies out the window and you're left with something far more sinister. after all, you're either screwing up because you don't know what you're doing or you do know what you're doing and you're screwing up intentionally. to that end, i'm not sure if AMIs column is genuinely helping lou's image or if it's helping cement people's suspicions of lou.

for me, lou said it all when he delivered that quote in nerat's interview. that, to me, is lou in a nutshell. people don't want to pay you when you turn items down and papa's gotta get paid.

rudy.

[aeneas01]

impossible not to agree with everything in your post rudy. yet lou is extremely well liked and extremely well respected by so many in this hobby - and i'm not taking about just the auction houses or those that have a stake in lou's work; but by other folks as well including some that i have a great deal of respect for.

i recently had a long chat with one such person that i've known for quite some time - one of the most honest guys you would ever want to meet and one the most knowledgeable football equipment people in the world. and the guy just loves lou even though he is aware of lou's reputation among collectors. i mean this is the effect lou seems to have on people - the gentleman i'm speaking of would be the last guy in the world i would expect to step up to the plate for lou - yet he does, again and again.

the bottom line is that lou does know his shat imo - too bad he has chooses to overreach his field of expertise at times as well as rubber stamp items that have no business hitting the auction block as authentic.

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[otismalibu]

the bottom line is that lou does know his shat imo - too bad he has chooses to overreach his field of expertise at times as well as rubber stamp items that have no business hitting the auction block as authentic.

I'd love to see the step by step process LL uses to authenticate a piece.

I would just assume that any authenticator would keep a file on past pieces, to use as a future reference. Would seem to make sense, no? Why start from scratch on each piece, when you could take a look similar pieces you've authenticated in the past.

That's what's funny about those 2 Ervings above. Let's assume he didn't authenticate them both on the same day - although I wouldn't put it past him. He obviously authenticated one, without referencing his worksheet on the other. Nothing is the same on those two jerseys, yet they would both have to be from the 86-87 season to be Erving Sand-Knit gamers.

But hey, he's likable. And LOU is such a soothing name. Same it slow a few times and it feels like you've slipped into a Calgon bath. Hell, I'm feeling better already.

[kingjammy24]

I would just assume that any authenticator would keep a file on past pieces, to use as a future reference. Would seem to make sense, no? Why start from scratch on each piece, when you could take a look similar pieces you've authenticated in the past.

because that takes all the fun out of it. lou's more of an "impressionist". tagging, fonts, photo documentation = boring! rather lou prefers to wave his divining rod over each piece and feel the vibes that emanate. one piece is never like another even if they are the same player from the same team from the same year from the same style from the same manufacturer. each piece has it's own aura and that's what lou is after. lou's the jersey whisperer.

check out these 2 1998 boggs home jerseys that lou authenticated within a few months of each other:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=12517

one has front numbers, the other doesn't. does it matter? maybe to those other authenticators who believe in nonsense like "accuracy" and "authenticity". i'm not sure why one jersey has numbers while the other doesn't but i bet lou knows. maybe one jersey felt it was too good for numbers. maybe the other jersey had reached a higher level of consciousness and was rewarded with numbers. that's the sort of magic you get from lou. you think you're going to get that from MEARS with all of their worksheets and "facts" and research?

anyway, robert: yes i've heard the same for years from many longtime hobbyists. they talk about how knowledgable he was back in the day and lament the sad, sorry state he's in now. the thing is, they all know what's going on as do many on this Forum.

rudy.

[jppopma]

I think Rudy may be on to something here. It could be that he just feels sorry for all of the poor lil ol' relica jerseys who's only goal in life is to be a real game worn jersey. Who can blame a man for giving these jerseys a little bit of hope?