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  • byergo
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 333

    Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

    Ex-Cub Grace takes a steroid shot at Sosa

    Mark Grace didn’t say anything about steroids then. But he’s got plenty to say now.
    Grace, a former Chicago Cubs and Arizona Diamondbacks first baseman, is talking now that his major-league career is in the past.
    “It’s not just Barry (Bonds),” Grace said recently. “There were a lot of guys doing it. I saw it with my own eyes.”
    Grace left little doubt that he believed former teammate Sammy Sosa used steroids, and he said he would not vote for Sosa for the Hall of Fame if he were a voter.
    “Those are the red-flag guys, the guys that just made the sudden big, big jumps,” he said. “Guys that showed up at the beginning of their career at 170 pounds and left at the end of their career at 235 pounds. A body can’t get that way naturally; it has to be enhanced with something. Sammy’s just one of the guys of many that are red-flag guys. Do we have proof? Nope. But you certainly have suspicions.”
    Sosa went from making $17 million last year (the first year baseball suspended players who tested positive for steroids) to not being able to get a guaranteed contract this year. He is out of baseball.
    “There’s a lot of guys that are not playing anymore, that are not even good players anymore, ever since they started testing for steroids,” Grace said. “All of a sudden they’re hitting those same balls they used to hit — and it’s not just Sammy; there’s a lot of guys — those balls that used to go in the second deck are being caught at the track.”
  • suave1477
    Banned
    • Jan 2006
    • 4266

    #2
    Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

    Wow that is crazy!!

    My only thing is it always amazes me how players come forward about other players after the fact!!!

    No one ever has balls to come forward during!!!

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    • skyking26
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 2457

      #3
      Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

      and so many of them have been linked...Locally, look at Pudge Rodrigez. He came to camp last year looking like he hadn't eaten in a month. Skinny. Power numbers all dropped off the page and he said his "chef" was making him different foods or he forgot to eat.. Please...
      ROBERT KOPPEL
      Skyking26 - 35 year collector of Dave Kingman memorabilia. Also seek 500 HR and 3000 Hit GU Bats,
      and 1968, 1984, HOF Tigers GU Bats...Skyking442@hotmail.com

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      • Nathan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 380

        #4
        Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

        A body can't balloon by 65 pounds over the span of a career? Surely Mark Grace remembers a guy named Mo Vaughn.
        Looking for Duane Kuiper home run baseballs

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        • JimCaravello
          Senior Member
          • Jan 1970
          • 1241

          #5
          Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

          I'll say it one more time......Roger Maris still holds the single season home run record in my book...............

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          • suave1477
            Banned
            • Jan 2006
            • 4266

            #6
            Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

            I do agree with Nathan on that one, Grace is a bit wrong on that to gain 65 pounds over lets say an average span career of 10 years is not really that hard at all and Yes im talking about muscle I have friends who have worked over years and have put close to that on there body of muscle and with out roids.

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            • suave1477
              Banned
              • Jan 2006
              • 4266

              #7
              Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

              To come to think of it a boxer can put that much weight on within about 3 or so years.

              Plenty of Boxers go up and down in weight classes within a few years.

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              • trsent
                Banned
                • Nov 2005
                • 3739

                #8
                Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                Didn't Mark Grace sleep with Ryne Sandberg's wife?

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                • RobSteinmetz
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 1970
                  • 431

                  #9
                  Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                  Rumor had it that it was Raffy Palmeiro and Dave Martinez, not Grace.
                  Rob Steinmetz
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                  • trsent
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3739

                    #10
                    Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                    Dang, I am wrong again. I could have sworn it was Gracie. (No, not Harry Caray's wife)

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                    • 33bird
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1925

                      #11
                      Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                      I'm reading the book right now called, "Juicing the Game" by Howard Bryant. Very well written and very informative. In the book it says, "The crusaders (doctors against roid use) were not convinced that Barry Bonds could weigh 185 pounds as a 21 year old rookie and then weigh 230 with LEANER MUSCLE MASS in his midthirties without DRUGS. It simply wasn't possible medically. The doctors also state that, "For a man at the age of thirty-five has already lost roughly 75 percent of his hormone production. BUT, Growth hormone could, in effect, get the body working at a youthful speed and age again." Sounds like Barry and Sosa doesn't it?
                      Yes, you definately can get FATTER over the course of your career and weigh more that way, but NOT LEANER with 45 more pounds of muscle in your mid-30's. From 35 on were not even hardly producing hormone at all, so how can you pack on all that weight like Sosa, Mac, and Bonds? Only by JUICING.
                      Birdie

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                      • Yankwood
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 870

                        #12
                        Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                        Harry Caray slept with Augie Busch's wife. This Bud's for you.

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                        • otismalibu
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1650

                          #13
                          Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                          To come to think of it a boxer can put that much weight on within about 3 or so years.

                          Plenty of Boxers go up and down in weight classes within a few years.


                          I think his name was Buster Douglas.
                          Greg
                          DrJStuff.com

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                          • johnjohn
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                            For The Record, Mark Grace Got Caught Cheating On His Wife About 3 Months Ago. The Funny Thing Is He Caught Her Cheating On Him At The Same Time. The 2 Idiots Both Hired Private Detectives...for Him To Start Talking Trash About Anyone Is A Joke. He's Not A Man He's A Mouse, For You To Talk In The Camera Or The Radio And Not In The Players Face Is A Joke. Not One Player Ever Talks In Another Players Face...they Are All Cowards....and Grace Has Been Talking Bad About Sosa His Whole Career...just Another Prejudice And Racist White Player..yes, I Am White.

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                            • suave1477
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 4266

                              #15
                              Re: Mark Grace goes off on Sammy Sosa

                              Ok i wont go as far as saying its racist i just think he has Canseco syndrome ( misses the spotlight )

                              As far as what the doctors say about now being able to put on muscle mass into your thirties? Again I bring up Boxers as proven fact to put on Muscle mass. How about body builders those guys go way into there 30's and continue to put on Muscle Mass.

                              I have a friend who in 2 years put on about 30 pounds muscle mass from hard core working out.

                              But i guess thats why Doctors dont always agree with nutrionists if its not done with drugs its not right WHYYYY bcuz only a doctor can make money off of prescribing drugs.

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