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costas
11-17-2008, 03:03 PM
how can collectors determine if a game issued jersey is actually one that was prepared for the player for game use, since there is no possible way to photomatch them like with game used jerseys? Since game issues show virtually no wear, how does one know if they are legit or just some blank jersey/scrub player that was customized into this player's name and number? thanks

trsent
11-17-2008, 03:27 PM
how can collectors determine if a game issued jersey is actually one that was prepared for the player for game use, since there is no possible way to photomatch them like with game used jerseys? Since game issues show virtually no wear, how does one know if they are legit or just some blank jersey/scrub player that was customized into this player's name and number? thanks

Game Issued is a term that sellers use to describe a jersey that is similar (if not exact) to one that a player will wear. Buyers use the term to describe a jersey that hung in the clubhouse but the player never wore.

Same goes for the terms Team Issued, Game Ready, Un-Used Game Jersey, etc.

I personally believe if these jersey are tagged and lettered identically to a Game Used jersey without any use - the terms work fine.

kingjammy24
11-17-2008, 03:42 PM
how can collectors determine if a game issued jersey is actually one that was prepared for the player for game use, since there is no possible way to photomatch them like with game used jerseys? Since game issues show virtually no wear, how does one know if they are legit or just some blank jersey/scrub player that was customized into this player's name and number? thanks

how do you know a "game issued" jersey really, truly was game-issued?
a few things come to mind:

1) look for player-unique customizations. eg: lengthened/shortened sleeves, body length, taper, unique hemming, etc. its unlikely that someone who obtained a stock (yet legit) blank would then go through the process of actually adding the customizations.

2) look at the stitching on the nameplate/nob and numbers. eg: if legit 2006 mariners gamers show a serged stitch on their nameplates and there's a "game issued" shirt showing a zig-zag stitch, then it may not be as it seems. when folks doctor these things up they don't really pay attention to the stitching details. they just take it to some local shop that barely ends up getting the fonts right much less the exact style of stitching.

3) check out things like the nameplate length, fonts, number material and exact size, etc. like i said, there are going to be inconsistancies between how the person doctored up the jersey and how the factory/team made the jersey.

basically, you're looking at the subtle details of the nob/nameplate, numbers, patches, etc., (material + how they were applied).

the jays long used unique 2 color numbers were one number was sewn on top of the other and then the entire piece was sewn on to the jersey so from inside the jersey all you'd see would be one set of stitches. i've seen some fakes where that detail eluded people and they sewed both numbers directly to the jersey which resulted in two sets of stitches seen from the inside.

rudy.

costas
11-17-2008, 03:45 PM
thanks Joel so how do you determine if the jersey was in fact issued to the player and instead not a blank jersey or of a lesser name player of the same size that was customized instead?

costas
11-17-2008, 03:46 PM
how do you know a "game issued" jersey really, truly was game-issued?
a few things come to mind:

1) look for player-unique customizations. eg: lengthened/shortened sleeves, body length, taper, unique hemming, etc. its unlikely that someone who obtained a stock (yet legit) blank would then go through the process of actually adding the customizations.

2) look at the stitching on the nameplate/nob and numbers. eg: if legit 2006 mariners gamers show a serged stitch on their nameplates and there's a "game issued" shirt showing a zig-zag stitch, then it may not be as it seems. when folks doctor these things up they don't really pay attention to the stitching details. they just take it to some local shop that barely ends up getting the fonts right much less the exact style of stitching.

3) check out things like the nameplate length, fonts, number material and exact size, etc. like i said, there are going to be inconsistancies between how the person doctored up the jersey and how the factory/team made the jersey.

basically, you're looking at the subtle details of the nob/nameplate, numbers, patches, etc., (material + how they were applied).

the jays long used unique 2 color numbers were one number was sewn on top of the other and then the entire piece was sewn on to the jersey so from inside the jersey all you'd see would be one set of stitches. i've seen some fakes where that detail eluded people and they sewed both numbers directly to the jersey which resulted in two sets of stitches seen from the inside.

rudy.

great info, thanks a lot rudy!