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ksuchad
01-04-2009, 04:30 PM
I am new to collecting jerseys. What does authentic game worn mean? The auction on nfl.comstated authentic game worn Jersey. Jersey has a psa dna #1N 45107. On the psa dna site it says player/celebtiry - game worn. Notes sproles. The patch inside neck has 03 48 Q. He was not in the Nfl in o3. Do the Chargers recycle jersey from year to year. Just wanting to know if its his jersey or a jersey made to the specs of his jerseys. I dont have any pics.
thanks

mvandor
01-04-2009, 05:15 PM
I see NO Sproles jersey of ANY kind on NFL Auctions....

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 05:27 PM
It ended about 2 or 3 weeks ago.

mvandor
01-04-2009, 05:38 PM
It ended about 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Not sure why you're asking about a done deal, can't even get a Sproles jersey to come up there under recently completed items. Therefore, can't comment intelligently as NFL Auctions auctions off both game used and "authentics" which usually are just pro-cuts.

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 06:09 PM
I am just asking because bought it on nflauctions.com i thought i was buying a game used but after i got it there were some red flags for me. It was auction Na149654 it said Chargers - Authentic Vintage Game Worn Jersey Darren Sproles. I was just wanting to know what authentic game worn jersey meant. plus the collar patch had 03 and he was still in school. I am away on business and had an email from someone wanting to buy it. If it was not game used i didnt want to tell him it was. I dont want to rip anyne off. Thats why i am asking. Dont mean to be a pain. I just dont know alot about jerseys yet. I didnt know if the jersey itself had been used and they just changed the nameplate to sproles and he actually never wore it.

indyred
01-04-2009, 06:24 PM
Go into your NFL.com auctions account and copy and paste the link to the auction. Anything you bid on or won is stored there for a super long time. I remember his jersey from the London gamer sold for a few grand.

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 06:26 PM
I will thanks.

indyred
01-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Here is a link to his jersey from the London game.
http://www.nflauction.nfl.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=99922489&prmenbr=65664914&aunbr=100269199

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 06:31 PM
http://www.nflauction.nfl.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?&prmenbr=65664914&aunbr=100059966

thanks

mvandor
01-04-2009, 07:41 PM
What are the supposed red flags? Jersey is trashed with game use, direct from NFL Auctions, and bears the London game patch.

What's to doubt?

After Sproles' game last night you can at least get your money out of it I would think.

mvandor
01-04-2009, 07:45 PM
What are the supposed red flags? Jersey is trashed with game use, direct from NFL Auctions, and bears the London game patch.

What's to doubt?

After Sproles' game last night you can at least get your money out of it I would think.

Never mind, I was looking at the wrong link. You got what looks to be a spotless Sproles' from what year? See collar tag, can't see in pics.

If there's no wear, I'd look to see how much he played the year in question.

Is there ANY wear and tear?

mvandor
01-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Never mind, I was looking at the wrong link. You got what looks to be a spotless Sproles' from what year? See collar tag, can't see in pics.

If there's no wear, I'd look to see how much he played the year in question.

Is there ANY wear and tear?

Argh, again never mind, you say it says 03 and Sproles did not join the Chargers until 2005. Definite red flag, particularly if no wear on jersey, and particularly since they also auction pro-cut jerseys, could have been a listing error. Could the Chargers have used a recycled 03 jersey for Sproles? Don't know, but absent obvious wear I would be suspicious.

Sproles career stats at http://www.nfl.com/players/darrensproles/careerstats?id=SPR711296

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 07:52 PM
The collar tagging say 03. He was at Kansas State in 03. They beat Oklahome in the big 12 Championship game. Thats why i have questions. I dont know enough about jerseys. Why would it be game worn if he wasnt in the nfl. thanks for all your help.

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 07:55 PM
I have emailed them about this to find out. I emailed them before i bought it but no response. I bet it was a misprint. There is really no wear to the jersey. thanks again.

mvandor
01-04-2009, 07:55 PM
The collar tagging say 03. He was at Kansas State in 03. They beat Oklahome in the big 12 Championship game. Thats why i have questions. I dont know enough about jerseys. Why would it be game worn if he wasnt in the nfl. thanks for all your help.

See my post below, we crossed each other. Note Sproles missed 2006 due to injury and unis changed in 2007. Bottom line, if it IS as represented - game used - there should be SOME visible wear. If no wear you can either request return with NFL Auctions or flip it with the honest representation made by NFL Auctions. If you're uncomfortable link to the auction and let the buyer decide.

ksuchad
01-04-2009, 08:00 PM
Thanks youve been very helpful

dcrules01
01-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Man if you bought the one for $350 now is the time to sell..If you are looking to get rid of bit..Thats a great price for a gamer considering authentics are only a $100 cheaper..Who knows he might be replacing LT the rest of the way..

josportsco
01-06-2009, 11:47 PM
thought I would help to shed some light in regards to the neck tagging issue. Just because a neck tag has "07" or "06" or "04" doesn't mean it could not have been worn a later year like 2008. Teams have blank jerseys that they get made for that particular player. See this example:
http://josportsco.com/view_product.asp?ProductID=927

Jarrod

ksuchad
01-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Just got an email back from nfl auctions.com and they said the Chargers recycled Jerseys and it was Was wore by sproles.

lund6771
01-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Just got an email back from nfl auctions.com and they said the Chargers recycled Jerseys and it was Was wore by sproles.


what a steal!!!!

Congrats!

Eric
01-07-2009, 11:40 PM
The chargers recycle jerseys often. It could be a preseason jersey from sproles' rookie year. the wrong year on the neck tag of a chargers jersey is not necessarily a red flag by any means.

Over the years, NFL Auctions has sold many "game used" jerseys which appear to have been modified for a preseason game- like an adidas patch sewn over a starter logo when they switched manufacturers but still wanted to re-use the jerseys.
Eric

Eric
01-07-2009, 11:54 PM
In fact, check this out- Here is a Darren Sproles practice jersey which came straight from the team which was used in 2005, but check out the neck tag...

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/ecky3/Game%20Used%20Collection/Football/Other%20Chargers%20Jerseys/HPIM1575.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/ecky3/Game%20Used%20Collection/Football/Other%20Chargers%20Jerseys/HPIM1576.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s194/ecky3/Game%20Used%20Collection/Football/Other%20Chargers%20Jerseys/HPIM1876.jpg

Hope this helps,
Eric

Eric
01-08-2009, 12:06 AM
Here is an example of a Chargers jersey that has been recycled. You can see on the sleeves of this Darren Bennett jersey that there are rectangles sewn over the adidas logos just below the lightning bolts.
17251

mvandor
01-08-2009, 12:55 AM
Eric: Confirming what Chargers fans have suspected for years... the Spanos' are cheap! ;)

mvandor
01-08-2009, 12:56 AM
Just got an email back from nfl auctions.com and they said the Chargers recycled Jerseys and it was Was wore by sproles.

Yadda, yadda. What wear is evident on the jersey?