Players damaging their items....

[grenda12]

I have gotten several game used items from Doug (worker from the Cell) and everything Ive gotten has been damage. I know its not Doug. He has gotten me some pretty good items.

I had AJ Pierzynski's chest protector and AJ cut the top lining off that had his initials on it. I also had his leg guards where they were damaged. The ankle protectors were cut, the 12 was scratched off, and the knee area was cut off from the leg guard.

Why do players do this to their old equipment? It is about money?

[zookerman182]

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it doesnt surprise me that AJ does this stuff. He is the scum of baseball. I dont think i dislike anymore in any professional or college sport more than i dislike AJ. He needs to take his bleeched blonde spikes and his cry baby attitude and get out of baseball before he poisons it even more with his bush league tricks.

The sad part of it is, he has decent numbers. So unfortunately he will be around for a while longer. Then when he quits he can have a spot on the jim rome show 4 times a week because Jim loves the guy.

ok thats the end of my rant, sorry for that.


And yes players do this stuff just to makre sure its tough for someone to later make a buck off thier stuff. Thats why Prince Fielder destroyed alot of his 2 tone LVS bats when he finished using them.

[grenda12]

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Well thanks for bashing my favorite player! No hard feelings. AJ is very hated, I know that. That has me like him even more.

Not everyone wants to make a buck off their items.

Would you keep something that was damaged from the player where it had things missing off the item?

[mattsr]

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Thats why Prince Fielder destroyed alot of his 2 tone LVS bats when he finished using them.

just wondering why woulf prince do that? for what reason. and i have a 2 tone lvs bat so does it make it worth more or "better" because he destroyed them.

[zookerman182]

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just wondering why woulf prince do that? for what reason. and i have a 2 tone lvs bat so does it make it worth more or "better" because he destroyed them.

I dont think it makes the bat worth more or even better. Its just a fun fact to know about those particular Prince bats. I used to own one myself that was uncracked. He is very cautious about people making money from his game used stuff.

[brian26]

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I have gotten several game used items from Doug (worker from the Cell) and everything Ive gotten has been damage. I know its not Doug. He has gotten me some pretty good items.

I had AJ Pierzynski's chest protector and AJ cut the top lining off that had his initials on it. I also had his leg guards where they were damaged. The ankle protectors were cut, the 12 was scratched off, and the knee area was cut off from the leg guard.

Why do players do this to their old equipment? It is about money?

Probably to prevent people like you from coming here and selling the stuff. You're getting free game used stuff from someone at the Cell (dumb move to give the guy's name out too), so why are you complaining?

[frikativ54]

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Probably to prevent people like you from coming here and selling the stuff. You're getting free game used stuff from someone at the Cell (dumb move to give the guy's name out too), so why are you complaining?

When did she (I'm assuming by your userid you're female) ever say she got the stuff for free? And who's to assume that her goal was to make a quick buck?

[grenda12]

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Probably to prevent people like you from coming here and selling the stuff. You're getting free game used stuff from someone at the Cell (dumb move to give the guy's name out too), so why are you complaining?

1.) NOT FREE! I paid for it.
2.) Im not trying make anymore money off the item then what I bought it for. 3.) For the posts Ive read, people wonder who your getting the things from or who the "bat boy" is, I gave his first name - not dumb!
4.) Wasnt complaining was just asking a question.

[grenda12]

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When did she (I'm assuming by your userid you're female) ever say she got the stuff for free? And who's to assume that her goal was to make a quick buck?

Thanks!

[brian26]

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I have gotten several game used items from Doug (worker from the Cell) and everything Ive gotten has been damage. I know its not Doug. He has gotten me some pretty good items.

Every indication from this original post is that "Doug", who works for the Sox in some capacity, is "getting" things for Grenda for free behind the scenes. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted the wording.

I know the Sox have semi-annual garage sales in January and May where they sell game used merchadise (in which the proceeds go to charity), so if Grenda is getting something behind the scenes, its not in an official capacity (whereas it is available to the general public for a price). If she is indeed paying Doug, then the money is going into Doug's pocket without the knowledge of the White Sox (not cool).

The way she wrote it (he's "getting" things for her) was in a way to imply she wasn't purchasing it. If she's not purchasing it, shame on both of them. If she is purchasing it, shame on Doug for cheating the Sox out of money that goes to White Sox charities.

Beyond all of that, if AJ really is her favorite player, why is she so worried if his number is scratched off the pads as long as she knows its from him. Maybe Grenda wouldn't sell the stuff, but there are enough greedy sports collectors out there that would sell them in a second (especially when Sox workers are swiping the stuff behind the scenes to distribute to other people and make a buck off of (as Doug is)).

I happen to know how things work there because I've spoken with Christine Makowski and Dale Walkington about various items at the Garage Sales. It's a very tightly run operation and catcher's equipment just doesn't disappear behind the scenes.

[B1SON]

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I don't post very often, as I don't collect baseball. BUT, I enjoy reading all threads. I think it is sad when someone asks a question like why a player ruins their equpiment after they are don using it and somehow the thread completely derails with one or two people negatively judging, accusing and getting hostile. It's not fair to derail the original focus of the thread with no proof of any wrong doing. Thats my opnion, take it for what it is worth. The threads I enjoy the most are the open ended discussion threads that develop into great positive discussion about the hobby. Just my two cents.

[frikativ54]

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Every indication from this original post is that "Doug", who works for the Sox in some capacity, is "getting" things for Grenda for free behind the scenes. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted the wording.

Wow - you just seem to be fishing for something to start a fight about.

I know the Sox have semi-annual garage sales in January and May where they sell game used merchadise (in which the proceeds go to charity), so if Grenda is getting something behind the scenes, its not in an official capacity (whereas it is available to the general public for a price). If she is indeed paying Doug, then the money is going into Doug's pocket without the knowledge of the White Sox (not cool).

Everybody does it. Why pick on Grenda over anybody else?

The way she wrote it (he's "getting" things for her) was in a way to imply she wasn't purchasing it. If she's not purchasing it, shame on both of them. If she is purchasing it, shame on Doug for cheating the Sox out of money that goes to White Sox charities.

How do you know that this stuff isn't being given to the "Doug" in question? Is there any proof that the stuff would have otherwise been going to charities?

Beyond all of that, if AJ really is her favorite player, why is she so worried if his number is scratched off the pads as long as she knows its from him.

Maybe Grenda wouldn't sell the stuff, but there are enough greedy sports collectors out there that would sell them in a second (especially when Sox workers are swiping the stuff behind the scenes to distribute to other people and make a buck off of (as Doug is)).

Again, you're judging her. What does it matter to you? Are you jealpous of her sources?

I happen to know how things work there because I've spoken with Christine Makowski and Dale Walkington about various items at the Garage Sales. It's a very tightly run operation and catcher's equipment just doesn't disappear behind the scenes.

Are you calling Grenda a liar? Are you saying the stuff isn't from AJ?

I have absolutely no stake in this conversation, but in this neutral observer's opinion, you are sure laying it into someone who has good intentions. I can't understand why you are bashing her.

I almost wonder if there's a double standard with female collectors. If a guy's got a back-door deal, he's a shrewd business man. If a woman has good connections, she's mooching.

[1986&2004Bosox]

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Brian26 dont for 1 second think that bat boys, clubbies, hangers on etc dont sell stuff or for that matter the players. The fact that we as fans applaud the fact that teams have garage sales and donate the money to charity is laughable. I mean think about it major league teams are multi million dollar if not billion dollar businesses and they sell jerseys to fans and donate 50,000 or 100,000 to a charity. We as fans & collectors have caused this inflated market place AKA Steiner, Upper Deck, Mounted Memories. We pay hundreds/thousands of dollars for bats, jerseys, helmets etc. Why? Because we like the stuff. But think about it most of us on this board are not millionaires and we are collecting millionaires items. Hell every night should be shirts off your back night. Think about it team can get shirts for what 50 bucks or less? So give every fan a chance at a jersey every night hell give what to give 35 or so shirts away a game cost the team maybe $2000.00 maybe $ 150,000.00 a year and you have 3000 happy happy fans. Instead they sell the shirts to Steiner and charge $ 12,500.00 for a Dice K? Are we all nuts? So yeah we should be grudge that clubbie who is working 12 hours a day from making some money on the side, how the heck do you think this hobby/business existed before these BIG BUSINESS came into play in 1989 with Upper Deck.

Sorry if you think that was harsh but the teams could donate what the yard sales take in and give the items away but $$$$ and greed prevents them from doing so.

[frikativ54]

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Brian26 dont for 1 second think that bat boys, clubbies, hangers on etc dont sell stuff or for that matter the players. The fact that we as fans applaud the fact that teams have garage sales and donate the money to charity is laughable. I mean think about it major league teams are multi million dollar if not billion dollar businesses and they sell jerseys to fans and donate 50,000 or 100,000 to a charity. We as fans & collectors have caused this inflated market place AKA Steiner, Upper Deck, Mounted Memories. We pay hundreds/thousands of dollars for bats, jerseys, helmets etc. Why? Because we like the stuff. But think about it most of us on this board are not millionaires and we are collecting millionaires items. Hell every night should be shirts off your back night. Think about it team can get shirts for what 50 bucks or less? So give every fan a chance at a jersey every night hell give what to give 35 or so shirts away a game cost the team maybe $2000.00 maybe $ 150,000.00 a year and you have 3000 happy happy fans. Instead they sell the shirts to Steiner and charge $ 12,500.00 for a Dice K? Are we all nuts? So yeah we should be grudge that clubbie who is working 12 hours a day from making some money on the side, how the heck do you think this hobby/business existed before these BIG BUSINESS came into play in 1989 with Upper Deck.

Sorry if you think that was harsh but the teams could donate what the yard sales take in and give the items away but $$$$ and greed prevents them from doing so.

If every day became "shirts off our backs" day then I wouldn't have to hold my breath before someone came on here saying that the clubs were tainting game used collecting. Amusing, isn't it.

[spartakid]

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I must say that I agree with Bosox, it's our fault that prices have gone up so far. If is weren't for people taking things from the clubhouse to sort of balance out the market, It'd be even higher. I'm still convinced that there's some scamming of some sort with steiner. If you go on ebay, people are selling bats from steiner that cost over $1000 on their website for under $200. I know these sellers aren't losing $800 on every sale. Anyway, I see the people in teh clubhouse as sort of Robin Hood figures, and making a little money for themselves. It's a win win, we get the game used stuff, and they get some money(far less than we'd pay otherwise.) Ricardo