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  • bigtruck260
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1729

    PCM Sports - What gives?

    There are many sellers who do this - so PCM is not exclusive, but this auction sums up why I do not trust many dealers in the bat collecting hobby. The auction is for a GAME USED Brett Wallace bat (Major Cards prospect), but the description notes that the bat has no use - just a couple of grass stains on the top of the barrel...



    The bat is signed and has their hologram and is listed for a starting bid of $99. The question is -

    Why falsely advertise a bat as game used and switch it to unused in the description? Are you counting on newbies to not read the entire listing before snatching it up as a 'bargain'?

    Again, I've about had it with these big dealers and 'auction houses' - I'll stick to the guys on this board who I trust. If I lose a few that I need, so be it.
    Dave
    Looking for 1990's STL Cardinal starting pitcher's bats
    River City Redbird Authentics
    http://www.freewebs.com/bigtruck260/

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  • allstarsplus
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3707

    #2
    Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

    Originally posted by allstarsplus
    Strictly to get more people finding it in a Search as "Game Used" is a major search.

    eBay will remove a listing like that if it is reported for deceptive search
    I just noticed that Brett Wallace inscribed it "Game Used". What's up with that?
    Regards,
    Andrew Lang
    AllstarsPlus@aol.com
    202-716-8500

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    • Shanefan
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 5

      #3
      Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

      No response from PCM seems to tell the story.

      Purchased "game used" gloves from these fellas that were stiff as boards and showed no game use. Had player sign it as game used. Used this as their explanation of game use.

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      • BIGSTIG
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 969

        #4
        Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

        Guys, I am not going to make excuses for their lack of response, or using the term "game used" so lightly. Though I will say that Scott is a VERY nice guy and that I recieved a game used glove that came from them, that is straight up disgusting and shows TONS of use. I also dealt with them to get a pair of cleats and hat and the deal was smooth, and the equipment was GREAT again. Just my input.

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        • frikativ54
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 3612

          #5
          Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

          Originally posted by BIGSTIG
          Guys, I am not going to make excuses for their lack of response, or using the term "game used" so lightly. Though I will say that Scott is a VERY nice guy and that I recieved a game used glove that came from them, that is straight up disgusting and shows TONS of use. I also dealt with them to get a pair of cleats and hat and the deal was smooth, and the equipment was GREAT again. Just my input.
          Can you scan the game-used fielder's glove. Any time someone says "disgusting" and "glove" in the same sentence, I have to see it!
          Les Zukor
          bagwellgameused@gmail.com
          Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

          http://www.bagwellgameused.com
          (617) 682-0408

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          • b.heagy
            Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 1263

            #6
            Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

            maybe its a strike out bat
            Bill Heagy
            heagysports.com
            Go Phillies !

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            • allstarsplus
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 3707

              #7
              Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

              Originally posted by BIGSTIG
              Guys, I am not going to make excuses for their lack of response, or using the term "game used" so lightly. Though I will say that Scott is a VERY nice guy and that I recieved a game used glove that came from them, that is straight up disgusting and shows TONS of use. I also dealt with them to get a pair of cleats and hat and the deal was smooth, and the equipment was GREAT again. Just my input.
              I actually emailed Chris Cavalier after I posted my 1st post to delete it as I saw afterwards the "Game Used" inscription from the player so based on that I guess it would be game used so my thoughts are that there could be a few explanations on why the bat was so clean and there is only a grass stain like:

              maybe its a strike out bat
              I have also purchased from Scott and he has some really nice stuff.
              Regards,
              Andrew Lang
              AllstarsPlus@aol.com
              202-716-8500

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              • b.heagy
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 1263

                #8
                Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                I have also purchased from Scott and he has some really nice stuff.[/quote]

                I agree the seller has nice items. Only referring to the bat on topic.
                Bill Heagy
                heagysports.com
                Go Phillies !

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                • BIGSTIG
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 969

                  #9
                  Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                  Frik,

                  I do not want to hijack bigtrucks post here with pics. I put pics of the Aramis Ramirez glove in the "Lets see your gloves" post a couple weeks back. Here is the link

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                  • PCM Sports
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 155

                    #10
                    Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                    Here is our official reply to bat gate:

                    First off, we want to thank all our loyal buyer for standing up and letting people know about the quality of our items. Next, we want to apologize to BigTruck for the emotional damage we seemed to have caused him by having to make that extra click on ebay to see the entire listing. I realize that this took some time and effort away from playing with his "big truck" (most likely a name to over compensate for a tiny compact, but i digress).

                    We are a very upstanding company. The player told us it was game used and signed it and inscribed it game used. We then took it upon ourselves to be upfront and let you all know that the bat showed limited to no game use. If we are wrong for being so honest, i again apologize. If anyone has any questions on game used items, we are always willing to help. When we get stupid emails from morons upset because they actually had to read the entire listing and could not just bid on an item off the small alloted space we are allowed for the auction listing, we ignore those emails because we only want educated customers not just any tom, dick, or bigtruck.

                    In closing, again, we apologize to BigTruck and will expect a thank you note from his therapist because we are sure that this whole thing has sent him running back for a visit.

                    Please feel free to contact us with any questions.

                    PCM Sports

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                    • whatupyos
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 703

                      #11
                      Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                      PCM Sports:

                      Look, you could have responded without the digs in there at Big Truck. That was not necessary and makes you/your company look less than professional. I understand that you had to respond, and might feel wrongly accused but you could have taken a higher road. Instead you chose to get back at him by getting some digs in there and might lose business because of your lack of professionalism in dealing with people who have questions.

                      Aaron

                      P.S. A name to your post might be nice so we know who you are.

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                      • cigarman44
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 621

                        #12
                        Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                        Originally posted by whatupyos
                        PCM Sports:

                        Look, you could have responded without the digs in there at Big Truck. That was not necessary and makes you/your company look less than professional. I understand that you had to respond, and might feel wrongly accused but you could have taken a higher road. Instead you chose to get back at him by getting some digs in there and might lose business because of your lack of professionalism in dealing with people who have questions.

                        Aaron

                        P.S. A name to your post might be nice so we know who you are.
                        +1

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                        • suicide_squeeze
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1442

                          #13
                          Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                          Originally posted by PCM Sports
                          Here is our official reply to bat gate:

                          First off, we want to thank all our loyal buyer for standing up and letting people know about the quality of our items. Next, we want to apologize to BigTruck for the emotional damage we seemed to have caused him by having to make that extra click on ebay to see the entire listing. I realize that this took some time and effort away from playing with his "big truck" (most likely a name to over compensate for a tiny compact, but i digress).

                          We are a very upstanding company. The player told us it was game used and signed it and inscribed it game used. We then took it upon ourselves to be upfront and let you all know that the bat showed limited to no game use. If we are wrong for being so honest, i again apologize. If anyone has any questions on game used items, we are always willing to help. When we get stupid emails from morons upset because they actually had to read the entire listing and could not just bid on an item off the small alloted space we are allowed for the auction listing, we ignore those emails because we only want educated customers not just any tom, dick, or bigtruck.

                          In closing, again, we apologize to BigTruck and will expect a thank you note from his therapist because we are sure that this whole thing has sent him running back for a visit.

                          Please feel free to contact us with any questions.

                          PCM Sports
                          You want educated customers?

                          I am a college graduate, graduated in the top 5% of my class in fact.

                          After your attack on a guy with a somewhat legit "expression of dismay" over your listing, no matter what anyone's opinion including yours is of his expression, I wouldn't buy didly squat from your company.

                          You essentially just called every single potential customer of yours a "moron" for questioning the way you handled one of your items.

                          Nice move. You apparently aren't intelligent enough to know how to respond in a professional manner.

                          Now go back to ebay. The lemmings are looking to spend their $3.23 on a nice item you have listed.

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                          • PCM Sports
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 155

                            #14
                            Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                            congrats on graduating in the top 5% from your college (or community college). That and $5 will get you a footlong sub at subway!

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                            • spartakid
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1281

                              #15
                              Re: PCM Sports - What gives?

                              PCM- I believe you are acting in a manner which is uncommendable and the personal attacks are unneccesary and have nothing to do with the matter at hand. Outrageous conduct. Do you have multiple PhDs or something, becuase the way you're putting people down I would assume as much?
                              Ricardo Montoya

                              ri.montoya at yahoo dot com

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