Vintage Authentics reliable?

[gingi79]

I haven't bid on their auctions before but in the past, I have regretted not doing so. I know Lou Lampson works with them but the new auction has like 6 Atlanta Braves jerseys with World Series Patches (Including a Chipper from 1996 which I'd love to own)

Are they reliable and trustworthy or am I throwing away money bidding with them? Specifically:

http://www.vintageauthentics.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=103131359&prmenbr=57735959&aunbr=103478069

Maybe Kyle can chime in on this one but I don't think the lettering looks right for "Braves" or "Jones" I also see on getty images that he wore both "Jones" and "C. Jones" in the playoffs but game 3 of the 1996 W.S. was Andruw's 2 hr game and I think he had C. Jones during the W.S.

Opinions?

[mvandor]

Re: Vintage Authentics reliable?

Sounds like you want to take a shortcut and just trust an auction house.

Don't. Go to Getty and do your homework.

And that name arc looks horrible.

[flaco1801]

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the "braves" lettering doesnt look odd to you?

[BULBUS]

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yeh, that "jones" looks terrible! here is a pic from the '96 nlds:

[shoremen44]

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I couldnt find a home WS pic... but here is a road showing he wore just "JONES" on the back... but I agree with everyone else the namplate is too low, and the letters look like crap

[kylehess10]

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That nameplate is just horrific. My guess is that this jersey is doctored and that the "JONES" nameplate came from another jersey, which was arched longer, and it was cut off and resewn onto the center of that jersey, which makes it look so off and more arched like that. Also the autograph looks kinda fishy. The beginning of the "C" and the "J" are off.

[kingjammy24]

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http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?auctionid=212&lot=1114

http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?auctionid=212&lot=1111

http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?auctionid=212&lot=1119

http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?auctionid=205&lot=1959

rudy.

[sylbry]

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The V in Braves looks a little droopy. The jersey may have been customized by this guy.

[gingi79]

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the "braves" lettering doesnt look odd to you?

Yes it does as I said:

I don't think the lettering looks right for "Braves" or "Jones"

Sounds like you want to take a shortcut and just trust an auction house.

Don't. Go to Getty and do your homework.

And that name arc looks horrible.

Isn't that what I said? I wanted opinions, I wasn't just bidding

I also see on getty images that he wore both "Jones" and "C. Jones" in the playoffs

The worst part is these appear to be the same ones KingJammy posted from the May 2002 Lelands Auction. The N in both Chipper and Andruw Jones names looks way off. The way it's sewn on doesn't match any of the pictures I have seen from any Braves jersey from the time they started arching until 07 or 08 when they stopped.

I realized a bunch of red flags about halfway through my post. I just wanted some verification that there wasn't some weird change for the W.S. I wasn't aware of or that I was seeing things.

[buc]

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The Chipper jersey from Lelands and Vintage are the same jersey.

[kingjammy24]

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here are some photos for you guys to chew on.



don't tell me noone here has the 1996 world series on dvd/vhs? chipper was a marquee player. he probably appears in highlights for all of the home games. just watch the games and you'll see whether he wore "jones" or "c. jones".

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

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by the way, the vintage jersey has a date tag behind the size flag tag. anyone ask them for the wilson code on that date tag? it would probably help.

rudy.

[markize]

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Rudy,

are both Andruw Jones pictures from the 1996 WS? the letter "A" on the home jersey looks different than the "A" on the away jersey. also, the home jersey appears to have the name sewn directly onto the jersey where the away jersey has a nameplate.

mark

[kingjammy24]

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Rudy,

are both Andruw Jones pictures from the 1996 WS? the letter "A" on the home jersey looks different than the "A" on the away jersey. also, the home jersey appears to have the name sewn directly onto the jersey where the away jersey has a nameplate.

mark

mark,

both jones photos are from the 1996 WS. it is clear that jones had 2 jerseys with 2 different fonts during the '96 WS. i don't believe the home photo is clear enough to make a statement regarding the presence (or lack thereof) of a nameplate.

you'll note that not only did jones receive jerseys with 2 different fonts but in the other photos of the team, there are other players on the field wearing 2 different fonts at the same time. clearly the braves were having some font issues in 1996.

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

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Rudy,

are both Andruw Jones pictures from the 1996 WS? the letter "A" on the home jersey looks different than the "A" on the away jersey. also, the home jersey appears to have the name sewn directly onto the jersey where the away jersey has a nameplate.

mark

it's not simply the letter "A" that's off. one of the nobs is vertically arched and the other isn't. big difference. as well, the nob is not vertically arched is noticeably thicker. all in all, 2 completely different fonts.

rudy.