Sometimes the good guy wins - AMI Auction story

[TAFKADixie]

I won one of AMI's April auctions and expressed my dissatisfaction on here with having to pay $30 shipping/handling. I won a fairly common Puma 2000 Rams gamer from Clemson alum, Dexter McCleon http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=43078. Even after the ridiculous shipping, it was still a good buy for me at $150. The package arrived in less than a week which was a pleasant surprise after reading some of the online reviews of their business practices. When I opened the package today I immediately realized somthing was different with the jersey inside.









What I actually received was McCleon's Reebok 2001 Super Bowl XXXVI gamer with a nice team repair! I checked their complete auctions and this jersey actually sold for $585 in one of their 2005 auctions. http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=21847 I don't know if the auction never got paid for or the bidder never got their jersey, but regardless I am ECSTATIC! The chances that I will ever find another Clemson Super Bowl jersey are obviously very small (threw that in there for the FL, OSU, and Mich collectors on the board so you wouldn't have to) !!

[dodgersfan]

Re: Sometimes the good guy wins - AMI Auction story

I wonder by law if you sent someone the wrong item would you have to return it to them?
How does that work out?


Rudy

[aeneas01]

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i'm guessing the good guy, the winner in this thing, is he buyer and not the consignor - wouldn't you just love to be the poor guy that consigned this shirt to ami? in a case like this i'm sure it would be entirely out of the question for a buyer to contact the business to let them know a mistake had been made, that an item of much greater value was shipped instead of what they had paid for. i mean if the tables were turned, if a buyer purchased a player's super bowl shirt as advertised and instead got a non-super bowl shirt, the buyer would most likely let it slide, right?

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[TAFKADixie]

Re: Sometimes the good guy wins - AMI Auction story

i'm guessing the good guy, the winner in this thing, is he buyer and not the consignor - wouldn't you just love to be the poor guy that consigned this shirt to ami? in a case like this i'm sure it would be entirely out of the question for a buyer to contact the business to let them know a mistake had been made, that an item of much greater value was shipped instead of what they had paid for. i mean if the tables were turned, if a buyer purchased a player's super bowl shirt as advertised and instead got a non-super bowl shirt, the buyer would most likely let it slide, right?

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If it was Hunt or someone reputable who actually pays their consingors and it would negatively affect the two parties, I would absolutely contact the auction house. Considering it is AMI, who obviously after 4 years hasn't paid the consignor or returned hs jersey, would you rather it be sitting in their warehouse gathering dust or in a collector's hands who appreciates it?

[mvandor]

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If it was Hunt or someone reputable who actually pays their consingors and it would negatively affect the two parties, I would absolutely contact the auction house. Considering it is AMI, who obviously after 4 years hasn't paid the consignor or returned hs jersey, would you rather it be sitting in their warehouse gathering dust or in a collector's hands who appreciates it?

Yup, tough to argue that one, I have to admit. Although I probably wouldn't have publicly posted about it.

[kingjammy24]

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SB jersey consigner never got paid or got his item back after 3 yrs? SB jersey original winning bidder never got the item they won after 3 yrs? really?

so is the assumption that AMI itself wasn't the consigner of the SB jersey and that the "winning bid" wasn't a shill bid that got stuck at the top?

rudy.

[dcgreg25]

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I dont know....if it was me, I would give strong consideration to returning it, as tempting as it would be to just keep it. Who knows if the jersey wasnt consigned for their next auction or owned by AMI or something else. You don't know what you don't know, I would hope that if it ever happened to me, I would be able to swallow hard and bring the mistake to the seller's attention. Regardless of how good or bad the auction house is there is something to be said for trying to do the right thing.

This should prove to be a very interesting thread as we can all speculate as to the reason you got the wrong jersey but....nobody knows for sure. I will be interested to see the board's response and where this goes.

[aeneas01]

Re: Sometimes the good guy wins - AMI Auction story

If it was Hunt or someone reputable who actually pays their consingors and it would negatively affect the two parties, I would absolutely contact the auction house. Considering it is AMI, who obviously after 4 years hasn't paid the consignor or returned hs jersey, would you rather it be sitting in their warehouse gathering dust or in a collector's hands who appreciates it?

down the road, don't winning bidders often relist their items with the same auction house? don't winning bidders sell items privately, items that eventually make their way back to the original auction house? don't items sometimes show as won at auction's end, but are never shipped due to nonpayment?

but you've presumed that the sb shirt was won four years ago by a bidder that paid for the shirt yet was never sent his item; and you've also presumed that the consignor of the item was stiffed as well. and based on these assumptions you've rationalized that it's o.k. to steal from ami (yes, it is stealing)? and at a collector's forum where crooked dealers and fake items are exposed for the betterment of the hobby, you proudly post that you've ripped ami off?

hey, i'm no saint and my feelings about ami are the same as the rest of the forum - but i would like to think that if we're going to toss well deserved dirt clods at some of these guys, that we toss them from something other than a glass house.

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[mvandor]

Re: Sometimes the good guy wins - AMI Auction story

Ethics aside, a hell of a great jersey.

[G1X]

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Robert,
I agree. Words never better spoken. As most of us were taught a long time ago, two wrongs don't make a right. For you guys who think that it is O.K. to keep the jersey, you are doing the exact same thing that you accuse others of doing.

TAFKADixie,
Please do the right thing and advise the auction house of the situation. Who knows, they might just say, "keep it." The worst thing that could happen is that you will have to return the jersey and end up with the jersey that you actually won.

For Everyone,
Regardless of what any of us think of others and their business practices, we must always keep our morals, standards and ethics at the highest level. This community can remain strong only if we all maintain the higest level of morals, standards, and ethics.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net

Always looking for Atlanta Falcons and WFL Jerseys

[Neely8]

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Ethics aside, a hell of a great jersey.

It's not that great of a jersey if it's the same one McCleon was wearing when he got burned by David Patten in the 2nd quarter.

[cordovacollector]

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I agree, be the man that would do the right thing and call AMI. And I sure would do everything I could to talk to the original consignor and first buyer to find out their version of the story.

I would never want to be in a situation where there was even a slight doubt of having stolen property in my possession. Or having a prize jersey that I'd feel I'd have to hide in a closet.

This is a no-doubter. Call AMI. Keep GUU an honorable place.

I have no clue why anyone would post this and admit to it in such a public forum. Sometimes the urge to brag is NOT the right thing to do. Since the poster has now also impuned the reputation of GUU, perhaps one of the Administrators could help assist in this ending properly and keep GUU repuation intact ... and help restore the poster for having a lapse of judgment.

[Mr.3000]

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Not telling you what to do at all....but I would call them and let them know of their error.

[TAFKADixie]

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You will all be happy to know that I have contacted AMI and advised them of the situation. After the initial excitement wore off, I had some time to think about being in the consignor's shoes and how I would feel if it was me. I knew what you guys would say even with most people's thoughts on AMI. That's why I posted it. I think if I had I truly intended on keeping the jersey, I simply would have posted it in the May pickups. Thanks for helping me keep my karma out of the crapper!

[ChrisCavalier]

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You will all be happy to know that I have contacted AMI and advised them of the situation. After the initial excitement wore off, I had some time to think about being in the consignor's shoes and how I would feel if it was me. I knew what you guys would say even with most people's thoughts on AMI. That's why I posted it. I think if I had I truly intended on keeping the jersey, I simply would have posted it in the May pickups. Thanks for helping me keep my karma out of the crapper!

Hello Sam,

Let me be the first to commend you for doing what I believe was the right thing. Ironically, though not exactly the same situation, I have gone back to stores after realizing they undercharged me. It's kind of funny when you try to explain to the person at the service counter that you are actually there to pay them more money. They usually give you an enigmatic look before they finally realize what you are trying to do.

I personally think life is very simple when you always just try to do the right thing, no matter the circumstance. I understand you felt tempted by the situation but I'm really glad to see you did the honorable thing and contacted the seller.

Kudos to you!