No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

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  • 3arod13
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 3092

    No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

    No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

    ESPN reported earlier that testing showed Ramirez had used hCG, which is typically used by steroid users to restart their bodies' natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

    With this said, and the unbelievable numbers Manny put up with the Dodgers in a short period at the end of last season, says enough.

    For those who want to believe this happened to Manny by accident...wake up! For those who want to believe Manny didn't do it with Boston...WAKE UP!!

    No question in my mind, Manny is on the list of the 103 players who tested positive.

    Regard, Tony (A happy Arod fan today)
    Regards, Tony

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  • justinlm24
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 240

    #2
    Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

    Originally posted by 3arod13
    No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

    ESPN reported earlier that testing showed Ramirez had used hCG, which is typically used by steroid users to restart their bodies' natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

    With this said, and the unbelievable numbers Manny put up with the Dodgers in a short period at the end of last season, says enough.

    For those who want to believe this happened to Manny by accident...wake up! For those who want to believe Manny didn't do it with Boston...WAKE UP!!



    No question in my mind, Manny is on the list of the 103 players who tested positive.

    Regard, Tony (A happy Arod fan today)
    We all realize you're obviously a Yankee fan, so if you're looking for a way to diminish what the sox have accomplished you may as well keep reaching. No one will ever know 100% when he was or wasn't using. Maybe he was with the sox, maybe he wasn't. But Manny did not win the two world series as a one man team. We all know Manny has talent. He didn't get to where he is by cheating year in and year out. Hopefully you don't honestly believe that. Who can prove A-rod hasn't been using since he came up to the majors?? A-rod and Manny are now in the same boat. Neither is no less wrong than the other.

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    • eisenreich8
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 433

      #3
      Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

      My perspnal vitriolic comments regarding this mega-fraud were not made lightly, following his signing with LA, and I am about as ecstatic about this news as can be. This guy is, although a talented bat, a seriously warped individual and a horrible team cancer who now will hopefully reap the same rewards that are being bestowed on Palmeiro, McGwire, Bonds, Clemens, Arod and others.

      SEE YA!

      #1 Happy Red Sox Fan For Life

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      • earlywynnfan
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1271

        #4
        Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

        Where did he try to diminish what the Red Sox have done? I must be missing it.

        Ken
        earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

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        • 3arod13
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3092

          #5
          Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

          Originally posted by justinlm24
          We all realize you're obviously a Yankee fan, so if you're looking for a way to diminish what the sox have accomplished you may as well keep reaching. No one will ever know 100% when he was or wasn't using. Maybe he was with the sox, maybe he wasn't. But Manny did not win the two world series as a one man team. We all know Manny has talent. He didn't get to where he is by cheating year in and year out. Hopefully you don't honestly believe that. Who can prove A-rod hasn't been using since he came up to the majors?? A-rod and Manny are now in the same boat. Neither is no less wrong than the other.
          I'm not saying anything about the Red Sox or their accomplishments. My comments were directed only at Manny Ramirez.

          You're wrong. Arod is in the "I admit I did it boat." Manny is in the "I'm gonna like about it" boat.

          Arod's boat is still above water. Manny's boat is sinking....
          Regards, Tony

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          • godwulf
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 1864

            #6
            Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

            Originally posted by 3arod13
            With this said, and the unbelievable numbers Manny put up with the Dodgers in a short period at the end of last season, says enough.
            So...could we maybe make the '08 National League Western Division championship race a do-over?

            No, huh?
            Jeff
            godwulf1@cox.net

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            • 3arod13
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 3092

              #7
              Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

              Originally posted by 3arod13
              I'm not saying anything about the Red Sox or their accomplishments. My comments were directed only at Manny Ramirez.

              You're wrong. Arod is in the "I admit I did it boat." Manny is in the "I'm gonna like about it" boat.

              Arod's boat is still above water. Manny's boat is sinking....
              Sorry, meant "You're wrong. Arod is in the "I admit I did it boat." Manny is in the "I'm gonna lie about it" boat.
              Regards, Tony

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              • 3arod13
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 3092

                #8
                Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                Look...you guys have to get off defending your teams. Comments are directed at Manny Ramirez. Not the Red Sox! Not the Dodgers!

                Stay focussed and on course.
                Regards, Tony

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                • justinlm24
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 240

                  #9
                  Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                  Originally posted by 3arod13
                  I'm not saying anything about the Red Sox or their accomplishments. My comments were directed only at Manny Ramirez.

                  You're wrong. Arod is in the "I admit I did it boat." Manny is in the "I'm gonna like about it" boat.

                  Arod's boat is still above water. Manny's boat is sinking....
                  By saying he used while with the red sox, when there is no facts behind that, is indirectly saying that. If you, or anyone, had facts to prove that then fine. I could live with it. I am not defending the Sox, no need to. Manny doesn't play for us anymore and I'm glad he doesn't.....

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                  • 3arod13
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 3092

                    #10
                    Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                    Originally posted by justinlm24
                    By saying he used while with the red sox, when there is no facts behind that, is indirectly saying that. If you, or anyone, had facts to prove that then fine. I could live with it. I am not defending the Sox, no need to. Manny doesn't play for us anymore and I'm glad he doesn't.....
                    I will bet my home on it, that if the remaining names on the list come out, Manny Ramirez is on it! That's how positive I am!
                    Regards, Tony

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                    • justinlm24
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 240

                      #11
                      Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                      Originally posted by 3arod13
                      Sorry, meant "You're wrong. Arod is in the "I admit I did it boat." Manny is in the "I'm gonna lie about it" boat.
                      So you're saying A-rod didn't lie about it?? Arod did lie about it. And later admitted he lied about it. How do you know Ramirez will not do the same? I am still a fan of Manny, always will be. What he has done he now has to live with it. It's a shame when any great player gets busted for this crap. It only hurts the game. I think that's what bothers me the most.

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                      • justinlm24
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 240

                        #12
                        Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                        Originally posted by 3arod13
                        I will bet my home on it, that if the remaining names on the list come out, Manny Ramirez is on it! That's how positive I am!
                        And if, and when, they do and he is on it.....then so be it. But until then I don't think he was. There was never a spike in production. If he was taking them then it obviously didn't help him produce no more that he already was.....it just doesn't add up to me.

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                        • 3arod13
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 3092

                          #13
                          Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                          Originally posted by justinlm24
                          So you're saying A-rod didn't lie about it?? Arod did lie about it. And later admitted he lied about it. How do you know Ramirez will not do the same? I am still a fan of Manny, always will be. What he has done he now has to live with it. It's a shame when any great player gets busted for this crap. It only hurts the game. I think that's what bothers me the most.
                          Of course he lied about it before it was proven he did test positive. Who wouldn't. The difference is, when he did get caught because of a positive test, he admitted it. I believe his story was a bunch of bull, but he admitted it. Most likely to protect other players.

                          Not only did he admit it, he admitted it for an additional 2 years, when he could have easily came out and just said 2003, as proven and accused of.

                          Look, don't get so defensive. It is what it is. There are more than 100 others who tested positive. There are probably 100 more who did get caught.

                          This era is a sad era for everyone. If you go back and look at every post or comment I made about Arod, not once did I justify or defend him.

                          I'm still a fan of Arod. Just not proud of what he did.

                          Regards, Tony
                          Regards, Tony

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                          • kellsox
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 904

                            #14
                            Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                            Originally posted by 3arod13
                            Sorry, meant "You're wrong. Arod is in the "I admit I did it boat." Manny is in the "I'm gonna lie about it" boat.
                            Arod only "admitted it" because his back was against the wall. Lets not make him out to be better than the other users. People would also be crazy to think that he stopped when he claimed that he did. Lets not forget Arod did his share of time in the "I'm going to lie about it boat" until the word of the Roberts book came to light. The events of the past year reinforces the idea that NO player can be viewed as being 100% clean.

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                            • justinlm24
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 240

                              #15
                              Re: No More Excuses For Manny Ramirez - No Accident!

                              No getting defensive. I just hate this. I love baseball and this stuff is ruining the game. It really makes no difference to me who gets caught. Wheather it's a big star or a no name player. It's bad for the game either way. Like you with A-rod, I'll still be a fan of manny. I'm glad he isn't on my team, but still a fan just the same. It really makes no difference who, why, or how, or when a player does it. It shouldn't be done period. I'm for a zero tolerance policy on this nonsense. You get caught....you get banned for life.

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