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  • Lokee
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    • May 2008
    • 1035

    OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

    MILWAUKEE (AP) - The joy Florida Marlins rookie Chris Coghlan felt after hitting his first major league home run was tempered slightly by the hardball negotiations he went through to reclaim the souvenir.
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    Coghlan's home run was caught Wednesday night by a Milwaukee Brewers fan who refers to himself as "The Happy Youngster" and claims on his blog to have caught nearly 50 homers.
    And while Coghlan said the fan was willing to give the ball back, the man's original asking price was a lot higher than the Marlins rookie outfielder anticipated.
    "He wasn't the most polite or respectful guy about the whole process," Coghlan said Thursday. "He told me he goes around a lot and catches these balls and holds them for ransom — even though he doesn't say that he does, it seems that way."
    But the fan, Nick Yohanek, insisted Coghlan could have been more respectful to him.
    "I explained that ballhawking is my hobby and that what I was asking in return was fair," Yohanek said Thursday, in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "I told him I make $50,000 a year working in law enforcement and that I didn't feel like I was asking for too much. He responded, 'Good for you.' Real classy. Way to respect law enforcement. Way to respect a fan."


    Players who achieve personal milestones often want to keep the ball as a souvenir, and in all but the most high-profile cases — such as a record-setting home run ball that might fetch big money at an auction — it has become standard practice for the player to give the fan who caught it a souvenir such as a signed bat in return.

    Coghlan said he gave the fan a signed bat and took a photo with him after Wednesday's game. As Coghlan discovered, that only seemed like a starting point for further negotiations.
    "Then he wanted other things that I didn't think (were) fair," Coghlan said.
    Coghlan said the fan also asked for tickets to one of the Marlins' upcoming games against the New York Yankees, along with a ball and signed bat from Coghlan's more famous Marlins teammate, Hanley Ramirez.
    "I was trying to be as nice and respectful as I could," Coghlan said. "But I told him he could only get one."
    Yohanek, who says he has caught a total of 49 home runs, offered a significantly different version of the episode.
    Yohanek said his negotiations for the ball began with several members of the Marlins' staff — and after his request for a Ramirez bat was turned down, he requested tickets not for the Yankees series, but for a Brewers-Marlins series at Florida in June.
    "I had wanted to attend this series anyway," Yohanek said. "Considering (Marlins) attendance is barely over 15,000 nightly, I didn't feel like this was too much to ask."
    Yohanek said he eventually handed over the ball for the promise of tickets to the Brewers-Marlins series, a bat with the inscription "To Nick, thanks for catching my 1st home run," and a photo with Coghlan.
    "While posing for the photo, he said, 'You gonna give me the ball, man, or what?"' Yohanek said. "After he was given the home run ball, he stormed off without a word. Only to return and say, 'Why y'all gotta hold my ball for ransom?' I hold balls for ransom? Those are Chris Coghlan's words, not mine."
  • Lokee
    Banned
    • May 2008
    • 1035

    #2
    Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

    didn't really come out here is the link



    I thought it was very interesting.

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    • eisenreich8
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 433

      #3
      Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

      Shameful behavior from the fan.

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      • buc
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 404

        #4
        Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

        He is a member of this forum, but don't know when he last posted.

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        • orioles03
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 499

          #5
          Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

          i had to get two homeruns back from fans before the first one was in 2003 jose morban hit his first hr which was his first career hit the fan wanted autographed bats of 4 players so we gave him the bats and the guy gave him the ball

          the second one was jeremy reed of the mariners he hit his first homerun i think it hit off the foulpole the ball girl gave it to a kid in the first row .the hitting coach told me at the end of the game that the ball was his first homerun so at the end of the game i ran down to where the guy was sitting i told him he would like to talk to him .the guy said all he wants is another ball so i had the guy come to the visitors dugout they gave him a box of used b.p. balls that were used the guy was hapy
          orioles03@comcast.net

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          • mbrieve
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 451

            #6
            Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

            The fans side of the story:

            The Happy Youngster is a diehard baseball fan and ballhawk. "Happy" has snagged 58 game home run baseballs hit during actual MLB games. Allow him to take you to the bleachers and&#8230;

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            • commando
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 1234

              #7
              Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

              As much as I would love to hate the fan, this whole event really seems like a non-issue. Based on the headline, I thought that maybe the fan was asking for a bunch of cash or tons of equipment. But actually, I think the fan's request was reasonable except for the Hanley Ramirez bat (Hanley is the only person who has the right to give away his own equipment).
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              • BorchertField
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 76

                #8
                Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                Originally posted by mbrieve
                The fans side of the story:

                http://thehappyyoungster.mlblogs.com/
                He still comes off like a bit of a jerk.

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                • godwulf
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1864

                  #9
                  Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                  To my way of thinking, asking for some other player's bat may not be all that unreasonable...but it's just about as rude as you can get, and I, personally, would never do it. If you want a Hanley Ramirez bat, catch a ball off of one that Hanley wants back. The other is just embarrassing.
                  Jeff
                  godwulf1@cox.net

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                  • Vintagedeputy
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3172

                    #10
                    Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                    We may never know which side is telling the truth but I find it hard to believe that a rookie ballplayer would be so rude to a fan who caught his first HR ball, unless he was provoked in some manner.

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                    • David
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2024
                      • 1433

                      #11
                      Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                      My question is how much was the fan charged for beer and parking. Then I can decide if there was a ransom.

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                      • David
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2024
                        • 1433

                        #12
                        Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                        If the rules say fans get to keep balls they catch, then the fan can keep it. If MLB wants to and can change these rules, then change the rules.

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                        • mbrieve
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 451

                          #13
                          Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                          Ok, I've read the news accounts and his own account on his blog and I have come to the following conclusions:

                          1. This guy is strange and is a Zach Hample clone. I can't say I like either of them very much.
                          2. His demands, whether you believe him or the Marlins, were not over the top - heck, I would have asked for more. After being treated that way, I would have kept the ball.
                          3. I'm sure both parties were equally irritated and angry, but by looking at the "meeting" photo - it seems like Coghlan is a real jerkoff. There seemed to be such a sense of entitlement. Again, after all of this, I would have given Coughlan and the Marlins my contact info and told them I am keeping it. If they ever change their mind, call me.

                          Just my .02

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                          • eisenreich8
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 433

                            #14
                            Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                            I do not endeavor to contradict or pass judgment on what ANYONE else in his situation would have done, but I will take the time to very sincerely and honestly state what I would have done.

                            I would have taken the ball down to the officials and handed it over. No strings. No comp. No nothing. Seriously, that is precisely what I know I would do in that situation. My feelings on this are personal but I would have returned the ball to Coghlan

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                            • eisenreich8
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 433

                              #15
                              Re: OT : Marlins rookie pays fan 'ransom' for HR ball

                              Dang I didn't finish my post before submitting! Anyway, I would have returned it to him because him having made it to The Show and probably the biggest moment of his life, what would it be that I would want done for me if that were my first homer in the majors? I just know that I have all the material stuff I really ever want and this ball or the profit from it would be diminished by my own sense of self.

                              Corny as it may sound, I can think back to my youth and I know that this is what my parents would want me to do, put the player first as the player is who it's all about anyway. I just paid to get entertained, but the ball would really mean more to him, and hence, I would derive greatest satisfaction from returning it with no conditions.

                              Others' opinions will vary...........

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