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  • vonbrandingo
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 218

    Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

    An error made by either Mizuno, PSA/DNA, or batreference.com needs to be corrected.

    I recently purchased a Chipper Jones black Mizuno Pro Ltd. professional model bat showing signs of game use, sent it to Mr. Taube at PSA/DNA for authentication and grading, and received the disappointing results today after over a month of waiting. According to Taube, although the bat was used by Jones, after contacting Mizuno, they indicated to him that Jones has never used Mizuno bats in a game (as stated in the LOA).

    Batreference.com states on their Chipper Jones page that Jones tends to use black Mizuno, Glomar, Louisville slugger bats as a righty. I've also seen him use black Rawlings as a righty. I've sent an email to batreference.com asking them for more information on Chipper black Mizunos and to send me pictures of him using these bats in a game as I think they would have this evidence. I've also searched getty images for examples and have yet to find one.

    Please post any information you have on Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers, authenticated Jones Mizuno gamers, and and any pictures you can find of Jones using a black Mizuno like this one in games. Your help to get to the bottom of this is appreciated!
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  • 5kRunner
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 560

    #2
    Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

    Still looking, but I found this.

    Back of 1999 SPx Premier Stars #PS15
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    SCOTT
    scottjrepking at gmail.com


    Always looking for game used bats from Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Grace, Jody Davis, Shawon Dunston, Jerome Walton, Rick Sutcliffe, and Greg Maddux. Preferably CUBS era bats.
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    • 5kRunner
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 560

      #3
      Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

      This one looks like a game photo to me. Hope it helps.

      1999 UD Choice StarQuest Green #10
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      SCOTT
      scottjrepking at gmail.com


      Always looking for game used bats from Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Grace, Jody Davis, Shawon Dunston, Jerome Walton, Rick Sutcliffe, and Greg Maddux. Preferably CUBS era bats.
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      • 5kRunner
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 560

        #4
        Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

        Getty Editorial Image #307978 & #307985

        Looks like a Mizuno to me.
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        SCOTT
        scottjrepking at gmail.com


        Always looking for game used bats from Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Grace, Jody Davis, Shawon Dunston, Jerome Walton, Rick Sutcliffe, and Greg Maddux. Preferably CUBS era bats.
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        • vonbrandingo
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 218

          #5
          Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

          BEAUTIFUL WORK!!! Thank you all and keep them coming if you find 'em! I'll be sending these images to John Taube.

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          • shoremen44
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 1161

            #6
            Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

            Scott... nice work... you must not have too much to do today...lol
            Bert
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            Always looking for Matt Wieters, Tettleton, and that Orioles magic

            shoremen44@gmail.com

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            • vonbrandingo
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 218

              #7
              Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

              Originally posted by shoremen44
              Scott... nice work... you must not have too much to do today...lol
              As far as I'm concerned, he's done enough already as is!

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              • 5kRunner
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 560

                #8
                Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                Originally posted by shoremen44
                Scott... nice work... you must not have too much to do today...lol
                What? You've never heard of multitasking?

                SCOTT
                scottjrepking at gmail.com


                Always looking for game used bats from Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Grace, Jody Davis, Shawon Dunston, Jerome Walton, Rick Sutcliffe, and Greg Maddux. Preferably CUBS era bats.
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                • suave1477
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 4266

                  #9
                  Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                  JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THIS IN!!

                  A PICTURE OF CHIPPER FROM 1993

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                  • 5kRunner
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 560

                    #10
                    Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                    Also of note, here is a Chipper card with him using a blonde Mizuno batting right handed. Kinda disproves the whole "He only uses a black bat when batting from the right side of the plate" statement. And of course the Glomar/Rawlings statement as well.

                    Okay, now as Bert said, I really need to do some work.

                    Later.
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                    SCOTT
                    scottjrepking at gmail.com


                    Always looking for game used bats from Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Grace, Jody Davis, Shawon Dunston, Jerome Walton, Rick Sutcliffe, and Greg Maddux. Preferably CUBS era bats.
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                    • Vintagedeputy
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3172

                      #11
                      Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                      Larry - Spring Training 1998

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                      • shoremen44
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1161

                        #12
                        Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                        Okay, now as Bert said, I really need to do some work.
                        Scott,
                        Dont do any work on my behalf... I'm just pissed I didnt get to Getty first... I would much rather search for a pic than do my work
                        Bert
                        ---------------


                        Always looking for Matt Wieters, Tettleton, and that Orioles magic

                        shoremen44@gmail.com

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                        • 5kRunner
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 560

                          #13
                          Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                          Originally posted by shoremen44
                          Scott,
                          Dont do any work on my behalf... I'm just pissed I didnt get to Getty first... I would much rather search for a pic than do my work
                          LOL. Me too!

                          Maybe we could start a Game Used research company. We could call it Bert & Scott Research, or BS Research for short.
                          SCOTT
                          scottjrepking at gmail.com


                          Always looking for game used bats from Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Mark Grace, Jody Davis, Shawon Dunston, Jerome Walton, Rick Sutcliffe, and Greg Maddux. Preferably CUBS era bats.
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                          • kylehess10
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 3100

                            #14
                            Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                            I also have a Chipper Jones Muzino bat. He used these bats in the late 90's I beieve
                            kylehess941@hotmail.com

                            My Game Used Collection:
                            http://www.wix.com/kylehess941/gameused


                            http://www.kylehessphotography.com/

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                            • vonbrandingo
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 218

                              #15
                              Re: Correct an Error! Chipper Jones black Mizuno gamers

                              Thanks a lot for your effort to the members who posted pics, which I sent to Mr. Taube.

                              Clearly Mizuno made a mistake in saying that Mizuno bats were never used by Chipper in games. That statement seems ridiculous coming from them.

                              The other issue is whether Chipper used the 34" bats shipped to him to try during 2003-06 since he apparently used 35" bats during that period. Mr. Taube contacted Mizuno and they said that to their knowledge, no Chipper did not use them in games.

                              The good news is that Mr. Taube ackowledged and apologized for the error after I sent the pics provided by Scott and the two other forum members (THANK YOU!). Mr. Taube said he would do more research to find out whether or not Chipper used 34" bats during games and revise the LOA when he reaches a conclusion.

                              Although anyone can buy MLB balls, I made a case that only a few people can leave such bold ball imprints on a bat like Chipper does and that the balls would have had to be pitched at MLB velocity to leave such marks. On top of that, this bat seems to match Chipper's use characteristics very well.

                              Take a look at the pics already posted and this one showing "Official Major League Baseball" and stars imprints from an official ball and make your own judgment. Could the leather scuffs, blue ink transfers, and the imprints have been made in BP?

                              Let me know your thoughts.
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