1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

[bigtruck260]

For a championship season, this one seems a little low - but I am not a jersey person...which is why I am asking for some help. Also, I don't like the fact that he does not take returns. That throws up another flag.

Some searching on this eBay ID yielded some interesting results, which I will let you all search if you are interested...makes for an interesting case study.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ST-LOUIS-CARDINALS-GAME-USED-64-UECKER-BASEBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ120452853798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0b8cb026&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[NYCrulesU]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

The fact that the seller chose to hang it outside on his laundry rig would be a major turn off for me as a prospective buyer.

[ndevlin]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

Im not saying its real or fake, but I wouldnt lose sleep over it. I would NEVER buy anything from that seller if my life depended on it!! He's a thief!

Try to ask him questions about an item and his story changes depending on who he talks to.

Heres a few old threads....

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=15935&highlight=tim_455qkf

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=20751&highlight=tim_455qkf

[sox83cubs84]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

I agree...$499 for Uke, even if NOB is removed, is awfully low. I'll have to check the jersey out on eBay tomorrow and post here if I see any flaws

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

The jersey is in deplorable condition. It appears to have stains all over the back side, almost as if he used it to wipe off the rims of his tractor.

It also has a bunch of holes, maybe moth? That happens, as these older jerseys are made of wool and the little critters LOVE that material.....

The point being, this dude didn't take very good care of this jersey. What a shame, as a baseball fan who wouldn't want a 'gamer' from the guy who claims "I must be in the front row!"?

[NYCrulesU]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

The seller ended the auction.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

The seller ended the auction.

Maybe the old tractor needed a good "rim polishing" again?

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

The auction ended with a buy it now. So, technically it wasn't ended early.
Also, who knows what condition the jersey was in, when obtained by the seller? Who knows, maybe he bought it off the ground at some flea market or swap meet?

[Birdbats]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

I am familiar with this jersey... saw it in person when it was owned by a local collector. I was all excited about possibly buying a '64 Cards flannel, but the excitement faded when I saw it. The condition is the same now as it was before. The previous owner believed it to be a Uecker jersey, but there is no evidence it ever had a NOB or chain stitching in the tail. The numbers also were unusually minty for such a hammered, moth-eaten shirt. I know he listed it on eBay at least once after I saw it. I sent him an e-mail yesterday asking how the jersey ended up in the hands of one of eBay's biggest crooks. Still waiting for a reply.

[cohibasmoker]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

I saw the auction when it was still active and what caught my eye were two issues;

1) in 1964, didn't the Cardinals embroider the player's name on the tail of their jerseys either above or below the Rawlings tag?
2) in 1964, didn't the Cardinals have NOB of their jerseys.

The seller didn't mention that there were remnants from either the tail embroidery or NOB being removed. I emailed the seller but he never got back to me probably because the jersey sold so fast.

Jim

[cohibasmoker]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

Sorry Jeff - looks like we were composing our threads about the same time.

[GarkoCollector]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

I'd have rather had a Uecker event worn Blazer worn on Mr. Belvedere.

[TNTtoys]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

The auction ended with a buy it now. So, technically it wasn't ended early.
Also, who knows what condition the jersey was in, when obtained by the seller? Who knows, maybe he bought it off the ground at some flea market or swap meet?

Very interesting. The auction ended with a buy-it-now twice today: first at 11:25AM EST and then again at 7:41PM:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ST-LOUIS-CARDINALS-GAME-USED-64-UECKER-BASEBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ120453194501QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0b91e305&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/ST-LOUIS-CARDINALS-GAME-USED-64-UECKER-BASEBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ120452853798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0b8cb026&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Same sale price. Same seller.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

I am familiar with this jersey... saw it in person when it was owned by a local collector. I was all excited about possibly buying a '64 Cards flannel, but the excitement faded when I saw it. The condition is the same now as it was before. The previous owner believed it to be a Uecker jersey, but there is no evidence it ever had a NOB or chain stitching in the tail. The numbers also were unusually minty for such a hammered, moth-eaten shirt. I know he listed it on eBay at least once after I saw it. I sent him an e-mail yesterday asking how the jersey ended up in the hands of one of eBay's biggest crooks. Still waiting for a reply.

Jeff,

Noticed that too right off the bat, but was so disinterested in the jersey based on it's presentability, I didn't even bother to comment.

At the very least, those numbers are refurbished (replaced) because they don't have the same wear/aging as the rest of this fine piece....IMO.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1964 Bob Uecker Jersey - $499?

Very interesting. The auction ended with a buy-it-now twice today: first at 11:25AM EST and then again at 7:41PM:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ST-LOUIS-CARDINALS-GAME-USED-64-UECKER-BASEBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ120453194501QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0b91e305&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/ST-LOUIS-CARDINALS-GAME-USED-64-UECKER-BASEBALL-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ120452853798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0b8cb026&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Same sale price. Same seller.

TNT......That's easy to explain......

His "buddy" who was asked to place a shill bid on the jersey wasn't smart enough to just place a bid......no......the guy, just out of the barn from finishing his day with the milking machines, accidentally hit the "Buy it Now" button.....So Tim-Bo had to reload, cancel the "buy" by his friend, and have him try it again.

I'm not going to type "IMO" on this one because I don't thin there are high odds I'll be receiving a cease & desist letter from Tim, ebay's finest.