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sportscentury
06-09-2006, 04:04 PM
Eric,

As promised, I am starting off this thread with my pinstripe photo-matched 1985 Steve Carlton game worn home jersey. I'll post Lefty's final major league game-worn fielder's glove later tonight. I look forward to seeing other forum members' photo-matched items. Enjoy Lefty's shirt.

Reid

kylehess10
06-09-2006, 04:31 PM
2 Of My Game Used Items Are Photomatched. It's not just any picture of them wearing it, but the actual picture of them wearing them. Here's my Rafael Furcal game worn game-winning cleats from May 2,2003. I was lucky enough to find a pic of him from that night on Getty Images.

kylehess10
06-09-2006, 04:33 PM
Here's The Other One. It's a pair of Jose Guillen's game worn HR 17 batting gloves from July 24,2005. Just the same as the Furcal cleats, I found a pic of him that day on Getty Images.

norristrophy
06-09-2006, 04:43 PM
I'm a big fan of one-hit wonders in the world of baseball...I have a bunch of other Charby mem as well.

http://www.freewebs.com/ducksfan89/charboneau.html

bat_master
06-09-2006, 04:53 PM
Here's one of mine. I'm sure several of you are familiar with this jersey as I have advertised it for sale a few time, but with no luck. It is Bill Burbach's 1969 New York Yankees Home Flannel worn on Mickey Mantle day as the winning pitcher. Shown here are two photos, one of the jersey and the other of Bill and Mickey in 1969. The pinstripes are a perfect match!

10671068

The jersey is still for sale, asking $1200 or best offer. Email me for details.
tim@tjsportsmn.com

Tim Byington
www.tjsportsmn.com (http://www.tjsportsmn.com)

gameused
06-09-2006, 06:41 PM
I'm a huge Boston Red Sox fan and I just got this Varitek bat in, I was looking at some images I saved from early 2006 and was suprised when I found a photo match of Jason Varitek swinging a Rawlings bat used to hit a RBI double vs the Orioles on 4-8-06

The large ballmark on the barrel and the pine tar application to the handle and wood grain match perfectly.

sandman02910
06-09-2006, 08:29 PM
I know both of these are Minor League but cool none the less. Possibly the only stitched name Papelbon glove he ever used. I've never seen another but I could be wrong.

sandman02910
06-09-2006, 08:31 PM
Here is my 2nd favorite photo matched item.....again minor league but cool.

34swtns
06-09-2006, 09:07 PM
Dave Moore, Buccaneers game-used jerseys, 2000 season. The away is photo-matched to the Sept. 3rd game. The home jersey is not yet matched
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/34swtns/DaveMoorejerseys.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/34swtns/davemoorepic.jpg

metsbats
06-09-2006, 10:49 PM
Every time I pop in my copy of Play Ball! with Mickey Mantle featuring Gary Carter and Tom Seaver, I can photo match Gary Carter's full uniform in the video to the one sitting in my Carter collection.

Do video match count in this thread:rolleyes:

Regards,
-David

Eric
06-10-2006, 09:47 AM
Interesting finds here.

I think it would be more helpful to me, and possibly others if you could point out details on the item and the photo which show that it's an exact match.

Remember- we're using the true definition of photo match, not style match, so show off the details- bat marks, dirt marks, helmet marks etc.

Eric

trsent
06-10-2006, 10:59 AM
Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?

Unless there is a distinctive characteristic that stands out, you can not photo match an item. Pinstripes on a jersey, stains, rips, tears, hit marks, etc...

I feel many people just want there item to be the one in the photo, so they start seeing things. Again, a photo-match must have a characteristic such as listed above. Just because an item was signed by the player that he used it on a special day, the photo-matching is great, but unless there is something amazing such as the two jerseys with pin-stripe locational matches (that Yankees jersey is so cool) it is very hard to call an item photo-matched.

jdr3
06-10-2006, 11:09 AM
I have a Tom Kozelko 1973-74 bullets home jersey I feel is a true photo match. Note the second 2 on the front of the jersey has a slight gap in between the end of the last red stripe and the beginning of the white body of the jersey. The second photo shows the same small gap.

trsent
06-10-2006, 11:25 AM
From the MEARS Forum posted by Dave Grob:

"Photo Matching"... What Is It That You Think You Are Doing?

June 10 2006 at 11:12 AM Dave Grob If you have read any number of pieces I have done that have involved imagery analysis, you will also know that I detest the phrase “photo match”. While I applaud the use of imagery to ascertain information about a jersey or a bat it is my opinion that this phrase is overused as it is misused.

I am seeing this both from collectors and hobby/industry professionals. Everyone wants to claim a photo match, but there is a lot more to this than just matching numbers and pinstripes. In many instances a person will have claimed to “photo matched” this jersey while only using a picture of either the front or the back. The pictures need to show the jersey from multiple angles and really should be from the same date or event.

The other thing I seem to find lacking in this work is the lack of mensuration. Where is the scale in the picture that permits the person to say the patch on the left shoulder of my jersey is 1 ½ inches up from the end of the sleeve and the one in the picture is the same 1 ½ inches? How do you confirm letter and numeral size in a photograph?

The other thing that must be understood and shown is what are the distinguishing features that make this the jersey at the exclusion of other possibilities. On one hand collectors and hobby professionals will “poo-poo” a jersey because of some minor variation, yet these same individuals will claim “photo match” because “no two jerseys are the same.” Which one is it folks? I have a piece scheduled to run next Tuesday on “variations” to highlight much of this.

I feel very comfortable with my position and knowledge base with respect to imagery analysis for a couple of good reasons. I have been trained to do and have done it professionally for well over a decade and I am not talking about doing it as a hobbyist.

While I am not passing judgment on a persons opinion as to whether they have in fact “photo matched” a jersey or a bat. I am saying that if you don’t have the photo sampling by angle and completeness, have nothing to confirm scale, and have not shown with great specificity why this jersey or bat is the same as the one in the photograph at the exclusion of other possibilities, then I would ask you to really consider with all objectivity, do you really have a photo match.

Just My Thoughts…

Dave Grob

http://www.network54.com/Forum/426247/message/1149955932/%26quot%3BPhoto+Matching%26quot%3B...+What+Is+It+T hat+You+Think+You+Are+Doing

metsbats
06-10-2006, 11:49 AM
Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?

Unless there is a distinctive characteristic that stands out, you can not photo match an item. Pinstripes on a jersey, stains, rips, tears, hit marks, etc...

I feel many people just want there item to be the one in the photo, so they start seeing things. Again, a photo-match must have a characteristic such as listed above. Just because an item was signed by the player that he used it on a special day, the photo-matching is great, but unless there is something amazing such as the two jerseys with pin-stripe locational matches (that Yankees jersey is so cool) it is very hard to call an item photo-matched.



I believe my Carter jersey is the one in the video and doubt there were multiple sets used for the filming. I can see the red stains on the unform pants in the photo on the back of the VHS jacket. In addition the way GARY and 8 line up on the jersey is exact.

I do agree that there must be a distinction between style match and exact jersey in the photo. To be able to photo match an GU item to the exact item you possess there must be tell-tail indications such as dirt stains, hit marks, pinstripe pattern, etc.

We must not get the two confused.

-David

kylehess10
06-10-2006, 12:35 PM
Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?




If you were referring to my post then you got it all wrong. My items were the exact pictures of them wearing the cleats and gloves I have. I knew what exact date they wore them and I looked up that date on getty images and found pics of them wearing it.

trsent
06-10-2006, 01:06 PM
If you were referring to my post then you got it all wrong. My items were the exact pictures of them wearing the cleats and gloves I have. I knew what exact date they wore them and I looked up that date on getty images and found pics of them wearing it.

Great, you have a style match because you cannot show any exact science proof that the items are the same. I do not care the dates of the use or the photos. Unless you see a stain, scratch, rip, or something amazing, that is a photo match. When you show a picture that has nothing to make the item appear identical but your word or the players word, then it is a style match.

Can you believe, I got a phone call over this from someone telling me to post a reply before I left town? Isn't there something better we can debate weather your gloves are photo matched or style matched?

sportscentury
06-10-2006, 01:12 PM
Folks,

This is an interesting discussion and there are some phenomenal posts of photo-matched items here. Thanks to everyone who is contributing or will contribute. I am further grateful for the LTC Dave Grob post that Joel reminded us of ... and I am glad to know that this is MEARS' official position on photo-matching. The only thing I would disagree with LTC Grob about, though, is that there are many times for which only one in-action photo is needed to photo-match an item (there are some perfect examples in this thread - the Varitek bat, for insance). I think the bottom line is that, no matter what the evidence, it must definitively demonstrate that the item is the exact same item that is shown in the in-action photo (I believe Eric, Joel, LTC Grob, and others will all agree to this - but feel free to chime in if your take on things differs). Just as with the terms game-worn and player-issued, folks are free to define terms and concepts as they wish - it is a free country, of course. Still, it is helpful for us to have a normative set of defnitions of terms and concepts and I think it's great that folks are contributing posts of not only photo-matched items, but also ideas and thoughts about the alternative terms photo-matched and style-matched. I look forward to seeing other posts.

Reid

kylehess10
06-10-2006, 01:14 PM
Great, you have a style match because you cannot show any exact science proof that the items are the same. I do not care the dates of the use or the photos. Unless you see a stain, scratch, rip, or something amazing, that is a photo match. When you show a picture that has nothing to make the item appear identical but your word or the players word, then it is a style match.


I never knew that there was difference between style and photo match. Thanks for informing me

trsent
06-10-2006, 01:15 PM
What?

Spiezio23
06-10-2006, 01:37 PM
I would have to agree on the fact that the term "Photo-match" has in some degree been over used. Many times it is just a style match which we all have many of. I'm sure everyone here knows this but, the dates on Getty aren't always correct for the game shown, the dates on MLB.com's authentication program aren't always correct either. With that in mind, I have what I consider to be 2 exact photo matches, Enjoy!

The first being a Shin Soo Choo bat, this was used last september and it was also MLB Authenticated(MT00411036) for those that want to verify. In this case the photos on Getty actually match up to the date listed by MLB. You can see on the back of the barrell 2 of the 3 distinct marks on the bat, the 3rd mark near the end may have been the one that actually broke the bat into 2 seperate pieces. There are also marks just below the name labeling on the front side of the bat, these match up with the photos as you can see.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ShinSooChoo92405a.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ChooBat1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ShinSooChoo92405b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ChooBat2.jpg

My second "Photo-Match" is a Greg Dobbs bat that was used sometime last year, the photo shows it in use during a game vs. the Athletics. There aren't many photos of Dobbs so this was a tough match to find.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/DobbsPMc.jpg

Here's a closeup of the bat from the photo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/DobbsPMb.jpg

The photo of the back of my Dobbs bat
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/DobbsBat.jpg

Eric
06-10-2006, 01:45 PM
Beautiful matches!!

kylehess10
06-10-2006, 01:53 PM
I would have to agree on the fact that the term "Photo-match" has in some degree been over used. Many times it is just a style match which we all have many of. I'm sure everyone here knows this but, the dates on Getty aren't always correct for the game shown, the dates on MLB.com's authentication program aren't always correct either. With that in mind, I have what I consider to be 2 exact photo matches, Enjoy!

The first being a Shin Soo Choo bat, this was used last september and it was also MLB Authenticated(MT00411036) for those that want to verify. In this case the photos on Getty actually match up to the date listed by MLB. You can see on the back of the barrell 2 of the 3 distinct marks on the bat, the 3rd mark near the end may have been the one that actually broke the bat into 2 seperate pieces. There are also marks just below the name labeling on the front side of the bat, these match up with the photos as you can see.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ShinSooChoo92405a.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ChooBat1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ShinSooChoo92405b.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/ChooBat2.jpg

My second "Photo-Match" is a Greg Dobbs bat that was used sometime last year, the photo shows it in use during a game vs. the Athletics. There aren't many photos of Dobbs so this was a tough match to find.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/DobbsPMc.jpg

Here's a closeup of the bat from the photo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/DobbsPMb.jpg

The photo of the back of my Dobbs bat
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Spiezio23/Mariners/DobbsBat.jpg


how in the hell were you able to find that picture of dobbs?? That's amazing! It must've taken a lot of searching.

Spiezio23
06-10-2006, 06:02 PM
how in the hell were you able to find that picture of dobbs?? That's amazing! It must've taken a lot of searching.

It was just by pure luck. I knew he was going to be at the Mariners FanFest that was held back in Jan. and I had a bunch of his cards signed already so I went to the team store and bought the last and only Dobbs photo they had. I didn't know about the match until later that night when I tried to compare it to the Dobbs bats I own and found the match.

sandman02910
06-10-2006, 06:55 PM
Here is a 3rd item....and again minor league but it's still cool to match an item to a baseball card. This is one of my Dustin Pedroia game used bats. I also have the jersey, pants and batting helmet in this card but here is the bat.

both-teams-played-hard
06-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Pinstripe photo-matching... NICE!
Reid's Carlton and Tim's Burbach are things of BEAUTY! The photo-matches probably DOUBLE the value of the jerseys (seriously).
While I have no "photo-matches" as good as those, I would like to title my post: "fun-with-photo-shop" or "create-your-own-high-gloss-auction-catalog"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/harlemCHANGEABLE2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/drew1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/ATLANTAnewDREW.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/johndrewadjusted.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/ray1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/raywilliamsphotomatch.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/ucla1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/woodenneilsen672.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/finalFAT.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/Sunderella_Champaign.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/lump1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/paintNewyorkyankees1955DONE.jpg
No, I didn't advertise at Yankee Stadium in 1955.

BaseballGM
06-12-2006, 09:13 PM
Rudy helped me with this one from 2003. All the Getty pics are from Robbie's first game with the Sox.

sportscentury
06-13-2006, 12:53 PM
Pinstripe photo-matching... NICE!
Reid's Carlton and Tim's Burbach are things of BEAUTY! The photo-matches probably DOUBLE the value of the jerseys (seriously).


Thanks, Warren. I have to admit that this crossed my mind when I picked the shirt up. I have actually never seen another pinstripe photo-matched Carlton jersey ... and I diligently check each one that comes up for auction against my massive Carlton photo collection. The other Carlton shirts I've had have all been blue roads, so you don't have the same photomatching opportunities as there are no pinstripes on the old Phillies powder blue shirts, of course.
Reid

sportscentury
06-13-2006, 04:05 PM
Rudy helped me with this one from 2003. All the Getty pics are from Robbie's first game with the Sox.

Beautiful Robbie shirt ... and more great work by Rudy.

Reid

worldchamps
06-13-2006, 04:38 PM
Thy guy with the Dwayne Wade jersey needs to post his, that is by far the best photo match I have ever seen.

Eric
06-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Beautiful Alomar piece and excellent photomatching work.

What program do you use for the photomatch layout? I would love to learn how to put together something like that.
Eric

BaseballGM
06-13-2006, 09:47 PM
Beautiful Alomar piece and excellent photomatching work.

What program do you use for the photomatch layout? I would love to learn how to put together something like that.
Eric

Eric- I'm not any help as I sent Rudy pics of my jersey and he compiled the master photo sheet (left) and matching aspects (right). I remember him saying he used Photoshop but again, he'll need to respond to that. -Kevin

gameusedsticks
06-14-2006, 12:45 AM
As requested, here is the Wade photo matched jersey from the Fleer auction:

Pictures of the jerseys left armpit (matched to the exact threads) on a bunch of pictures:

http://www.gameusedsticks.com/jerseys/wade_4.jpg

Here is a Photo from the January 30, 2005 game against the Houston Rockets:

http://www.gameusedsticks.com/wade/match_jan30_leftsleeve.jpg

For you Hockey fans, I'll post some photo matched items soon.

Barry Levine
www.gameusedsticks.com (http://www.gameusedsticks.com)

gameusedsticks
06-14-2006, 12:58 AM
Marty Turco Game Used Mask .. notice the chip in the chin:
http://www.gameusedsticks.com/turco/turco001.jpg

Here is a match of him wearing the mask:
http://www.gameusedsticks.com/turco/turco_mask_photomatch2.jpg

Pretty easy to match this mask due to the amount of games a mask is worn in.

Regards,
Barry Levine
www.gameusedsticks.com (http://www.gameusedsticks.com)

worldchamps
06-14-2006, 01:07 PM
Barry,

I went to your website and tried the ermail link, but it kicked back, do you have another email address I can contact you at?

Bill

both-teams-played-hard
06-16-2006, 08:14 PM
Not a definite photo-match. But still a cool photo-reference from my collection.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/both-teams-played-hard/wake2-1.jpg




Fun-with-photoshop

Vintagedeputy
06-16-2006, 11:31 PM
I'm still trying to photo match this to a photo, but how about DNA match? Is that acceptable?

Check the collar to the left and right of the name tag. Those are 21 year old blood stains.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3530/pasquashirt0mg.jpg

stkmtimo
06-17-2006, 10:21 AM
These are fantastic photos! I have Matt Morris' 2004 game used home jersey when he gave up Ken Griffey, Jr's 500th HR. Also have a Jack Wilson game used photomatched bat that's hammered with use.

Hope to get some pics up soon.

Tim

R. C. Walker
06-17-2006, 06:04 PM
I'm still trying to photo match this to a photo, but how about DNA match? Is that acceptable?

Check the collar to the left and right of the name tag. Those are 21 year old blood stains.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3530/pasquashirt0mg.jpg

Those are actually stains from metal hangers.

both-teams-played-hard
06-17-2006, 08:11 PM
Those are actually stains from metal hangers.

I agree. The stains resemble rust and since they are on the inside collar, most likely a metal hanger. I have seen this MANY times on old jerseys and vintage men's shirts.
But anyway, how about a full photo of the Pasqua? Pintripe Photo-matching Possibilities!

Vintagedeputy
06-17-2006, 09:22 PM
I never heard of the hanger theory. Dan always had some cuts/scratches around his neck area from shaving and a photo I have here somewhere shows that fairly well. I always assumed that it was blood stains due to the pattern. I'll have to shoot a full photo of the jersey with my digital. That scan above was done by laying it on the flatbed scanner.

indyred
08-29-2006, 01:32 PM
Some amazing matches in here. Great work. Anybody got anything new. I hope to post one in here pretty soon.

iceman13
08-29-2006, 11:23 PM
This 80-81 Randy Carlyle Pens is photomatched to his 81 Topps card....the match is the stickmark on the crest.

rose14
08-30-2006, 07:29 AM
Here is my 1995 Albany Polecats Vladimir Guerrero game used jersey. I have three different baseball cards showing him wearing this exact jersey. The buttons and numbers match up exactly and it also has a letter from the late Dick Dobbins, who was the authority on minor league jerseys.

CollectGU
08-30-2006, 07:56 AM
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot more space from the polecat patch to the end of the sleeve in the picture than on your jersey?

rose14
08-30-2006, 08:08 AM
No, because on the card you can't see the bottom of the Polecat patch. The glare on the bottom of the sleeve does not show the entire patch.

rose14
08-30-2006, 08:30 AM
If you look real close on this first pic you can see the rest of the patch and how close it comes to the border on the sleeve. It's hard to see in the other photo.

rose14
08-30-2006, 10:02 AM
Here is another card showing this jersey.

CollectGU
08-30-2006, 10:21 AM
I see what you mean about the glare now...Nice jersey

indyred
09-15-2006, 01:24 PM
That old Penguins Randy Carlyle is very sweet, does anyone have a photo of that card from 81. Was that the year they changed colors mid season (from blue and white to black and gold)? This is not my jersey, but i've seen this example of how Meigray can blow up a portion of a getty image to show exact details better on a photo match.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/peterworrellguy/gagne_match.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/peterworrellguy/gagne_black_mark.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/peterworrellguy/gagne_photo_match.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/peterworrellguy/matched.jpg

DonTheLegend
09-15-2006, 08:43 PM
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/DonTheLegend/1995_lankford_ray_fphotomatch.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n249/DonTheLegend/1lankford_gu_cleats__circa_1995_.jpg

ive had these for about 9 years. when i got these signed, Ray said that he had only wore this style for a portion of the season and only wore this style once. pretty easy match.

these are some of my most cherished items.

ive never seen another pair of Lankford shoes available since.

ironmanfan
09-15-2006, 08:48 PM
Those Lankford shoes are sweet although I would classify those as more of a style match as opposed to a photo match (or am I missing something?).

DonTheLegend
09-15-2006, 09:06 PM
from what i gathered in talking to Ray, these (this pair) were only worn for a portion of the season and he decided to switch to a different style. no multiple pairs as this was said to be the only time he wore them

. in my research before actually talking to Lankford, i came to the conclusion that these were worn early in the 95' season.

momen55
09-17-2006, 06:30 PM
here is a photo match. pedro is a friend of mine. i know this is a match because he was only issued one set each of home and road and he only played less than half of the season due to an injury. i aquired the jersey at the end of the 2005 season.:D

2049

2050

2051

gnishiyama
09-17-2006, 08:05 PM
Not sure if its an exact photo match but definately an interesting style match. Heres a Hideki Matsui bat used by Jorge Posada. Apparently in 2005 Posada was in a pretty bad slump and decided to use Hideki Matsui's bat for a short period of time when batting left handed.

Goh

Always buying signed and game-used memorabilia of past and present Japanese MLB players

CollectGU
09-17-2006, 08:33 PM
There are alot of great items posted with rock solid provenance, so I know i am going to catch heat for this. Something is not considered a phtomatch UNLESS there is a distinguishing chracteristic on the piece ( dirts, sweat stain, fabric pull, repair, ball mark etc..) that you can match to a photo. It doesn't matter if a player handed you the jersey , bat, cleat, glove etc...To be a photo match, you must "match (hence the word) it (that exact item)" to a photo..Some have done it in this thread and some have not..that is not to take away from any of the items as they are all nice pieces. That's what makes a having a photo match so special, it's difficult and rare to do. A photo match leaves practically no doubt and to many actually holds more weight than a team or player LOA...

ironmanfan
09-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Thats the point I was trying to make the with the Lankford shoes (you did a better job explaining it).

gameused
09-18-2006, 02:55 AM
Here's one of my favorite items in my collection, a 2005 Home Run derby bat used by David Ortiz. Ortiz hit a total of 20 Home runs with this LVS B9 bat. You can see the pine tar stains from his gloves just above the B9 logo, also there's a photo of Ortiz sitting in the dugout and the wood grain and pine tar match up perfect. The right barrel area of this bat is just pounded with deep ball seam marks.

thomecollector
09-18-2006, 06:14 AM
Great job. There are some awesome matches on here. I have a question. I have a '95 World Series jersey from Jim Thome. I have been looking for pics. But have turn up nothing from that year. Any ideas where I may look ??Thanks,Roger:)

eGameUsed
09-18-2006, 06:16 AM
Many of you that know me know I am a sucker for photo-matched Astros items. My favorite is detailed here:

http://www.egameused.com/clemens_2004_jersey.html

Thanks,

indyred
10-26-2006, 10:22 AM
With the info on $5 photo getty seller, let's see some more matches. My favorite thread in this forum is this one. So I will bring it back up with a photo-matched hockey helmet. The pictures I took really don't do the photo itself justice. The glare kinda distorts some of the marks. I can't photo a photo very well. But in person with the photo it really shows some perfect matches. I did a close up on the CCM marking, easy to see the scrach in the logo and some scuffing, but it is much better than the picture I took.....
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/tmit12/mygu009.jpg
Close up of Helmet CCM area.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/tmit12/mygu010.jpg
Close up of small part of the picture off the CCM.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/tmit12/mygu011.jpg
I bought the helmet from Meigray during there summer sale. There is some specs of dust from photo holder that show up here and some other tiny scratches in the white that match but don't show up in my picture. Does it look like a match to you guys?

skipcareyisfat
10-26-2006, 10:50 AM
Indyred, thanks for sharing those. Looks like a nice match to me, given the mark through the middle "C" and the varying degrees of thinkness of the "C" stickers.

scottanservitz
10-26-2006, 09:20 PM
Indyred,
I think you did a great job on the photomatch. The bigger gouge above the cm matches perfectly. As you told me when I made my first match, it is as good as getting the piece itself! Did you match the helmet before you ordered the picture or did it come and then you matched it up? I would assume helmets would be easier to match if you have the year correct since players only use one in a season unless it gets cracked. Thanks for sharing and congrats!
Scott

NegleyPirate
10-27-2006, 09:43 AM
These are fantastic photos! I have Matt Morris' 2004 game used home jersey when he gave up Ken Griffey, Jr's 500th HR. Also have a Jack Wilson game used photomatched bat that's hammered with use.

Hope to get some pics up soon.

Tim

Hi Tim, do you have scans of the Jack Wilson bat? plmk Mike
thanks

NegleyPirate
10-27-2006, 09:50 AM
Marty Turco Game Used Mask .. notice the chip in the chin:
http://www.gameusedsticks.com/turco/turco001.jpg

Here is a match of him wearing the mask:
http://www.gameusedsticks.com/turco/turco_mask_photomatch2.jpg

Pretty easy to match this mask due to the amount of games a mask is worn in.

Regards,
Barry Levine
www.gameusedsticks.com (http://www.gameusedsticks.com)

Hello Barry,
I checked out you site. Some very cool stuff. I have sent a couple of emails but have not gotten any responses. plmk Mike
Thanks

PK
10-27-2006, 11:53 AM
Here is one that is also a pretty nice match, I think for sure that hockey jerseys are easiest to match

sportscentury
10-27-2006, 12:04 PM
PK,

Nice match. Also, interesting to see that the MeiGray patches are placed on the jerseys prior to the players using them. This may not be a great observation for the MeiGray hockey collectors' standards, but I found it interesting because this was not the case with the first batch of MeiGray Texas Rangers baseball jerseys (the MeiGray tags were sewn on after the jerseys were sent to MeiGray from the Rangers; after 2001, they went to team serial coding, so there were no MeiGray tags).

Thanks for posting - nice jersey.

Reid

PK
10-27-2006, 12:22 PM
Reid, this paticular Meigray patch is a sponsor patch and not an inventory patch. On NHL jerseys the patch is sewn on the inside hem and has an inventory number right on the patch. I believe these are sewn on before players wear them. Maybe with the Rangers a deal was worked after they started wearing them and were unable to be put in before? I am not 100% sure, but I would bet they are now put on before jerseys are worn by the Rangers.

Matt

kylehess10
01-05-2007, 01:19 AM
Ofcoarse I had to post this right away. Michael Tucker game worn 8/26/06 alternative pants photomatched/videomatched to, ofcoarse, the Mets/Phillies game on 8/26/06.

3arod13
01-05-2007, 04:57 AM
Great thread and nice matches! Are there any other websites than Getty Images where I can find more pics of baseball players in action? Thanks!

kylehess10
01-05-2007, 05:07 AM
Great thread and nice matches! Are there any other websites than Getty Images where I can find more pics of baseball players in action? Thanks!

There is corbis images (www.corbisimages.com (http://www.corbisimages.com)) and other than that I always check google images,yahoo images,& ask.com images.

3arod13
01-05-2007, 05:11 AM
There is corbis images (www.corbisimages.com (http://www.corbisimages.com)) and other than that I always check google images,yahoo images,& ask.com images.

Kylehess10, thanks for the info! This is a great forum!

3arod13
01-05-2007, 05:15 AM
I can find websites with many pictures of Alex Rodriguez with the Yankees, but not with the Seattle Mariners. Any help?

kylehess10
01-05-2007, 05:33 AM
I can find websites with many pictures of Alex Rodriguez with the Yankees, but not with the Seattle Mariners. Any help?

Are you trying to photomatch something?

3arod13
01-05-2007, 05:42 AM
Are you trying to photomatch something?

Yes, but I'm sure it will be impossible. This Alex Rodriguez HR #15 Game Used bat was used on 25 June 1996. To find a picture for this specific game on this specific date mostly likely is impossible. However, documentation is solid, including the box score for that game, and a letter from Rawlings stating Arod order 12 bats of this model in 1996.

kylehess10
01-05-2007, 05:52 AM
Yes, but I'm sure it will be impossible. This Alex Rodriguez HR #15 Game Used bat was used on 25 June 1996. To find a picture for this specific game on this specific date mostly likely is impossible. However, documentation is solid, including the box score for that game, and a letter from Rawlings stating Arod order 12 bats of this model in 1996.

I'll do some searching and see if I can find anything

3arod13
01-05-2007, 05:54 AM
I'll do some searching and see if I can find anything

Kylehess10, you have been a tremendous help! Thanks and nice items you have in your collection!

GrndSlm
01-05-2007, 10:54 AM
I really would like to photo match this bat but havent been successfull. Can anyone help? This was the bat AROD used for his first career grand slam vs. detroit. It was a home game !!

thanks,
Juan Iglesias
GrndSLm@aol.com
3286

3arod13
01-05-2007, 11:00 AM
Here is the video of arod hitting the Grand Slam!

http://arod.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/players/rodriguez_alex/multimedia.jsp?category=milestones

Scroll down to the bottom of the page

3arod13
01-05-2007, 11:03 AM
Juan,

Not sure if you saw this video, but having the actual video of him hitting the Grand Slam is awesome. You can buy the video via the website!

Awesome bat!!!

3arod13
01-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Juan,

Here is the box score for that game also:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=199604180SEA

3arod13
01-05-2007, 11:14 AM
Juan,

Do you have a LOA/COA for the bat signed by Arod? If so, can you add a picture of it?

chargers
01-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Here's mine...Pat Hughes Edmonton Oilers.

http://webhome.idirect.com/~thebrasils/hughes.html

suave1477
01-05-2007, 12:01 PM
Kyle I am only going by your pants on the still video shot of Tucker by the dugout next to Reyes and that is not a photo match.

The dirt loacted on your pants is covered way up all over his right butt cheek of the pants.

The dirt on the pants on the still video shot shows the dirt going part way up the back of the leg and then along side of the right butt cheek.

GrndSlm
01-05-2007, 03:21 PM
Thanks for your help AROD13......As I mentioned in the email, I dont have a LOA for the GrandSlam bat because he gave that piece to me personally. I thought it would be kind of rude to ask for authenticity. In my line of work I come accross alot of great game used pieces. Most I get from the player and others from equipt. mgr's so LOA are kind of difficult. I usually just get Grey Flannel or any other authenticator to give me a letter for insurance purposes.

thanks again,
Juan Iglesias
GrndSlm@aol.com

kylehess10
01-16-2007, 10:45 PM
Eli Marrero game worn 2006 home jersey photomatched to 6/4/06 on getty and also an even better photomatch from a random picture I found on google images (date unknown though)

kylehess10
01-20-2007, 10:55 PM
Kyle I am only going by your pants on the still video shot of Tucker by the dugout next to Reyes and that is not a photo match.

The dirt loacted on your pants is covered way up all over his right butt cheek of the pants.

The dirt on the pants on the still video shot shows the dirt going part way up the back of the leg and then along side of the right butt cheek.

Sorry for the late reply.

I'm not quite sure about what you're saying exactly. The way I'm seeing it, it looks as if the dirt starts to up the back side starting at where the knee cap is

uwmrules09
01-20-2007, 11:28 PM
could anyone help me out with a photo match? I have my Weeks 2004 TBTC minor league uniform. He was with the huntsville stars and they played the barons that day.

STLFan2003
01-20-2007, 11:44 PM
can someone also help me find a match. The game was March 17, 2006, Dave Duncan green jersey

brianborsch
01-21-2007, 01:39 AM
I don't know if this counts, but I want to see what people think, since if you don't have pin stripes or dirt marks it is impossible to photo-match. Or am I wrong?

35023503

kylehess10
01-21-2007, 11:50 AM
With help from others I had found out that this is a photomatch:

Reasons Why:

The patches on the right side of the jersey are stitched higher than on the left
The "V" doesn't touch the piping
The spacing between the buttons and the patches match perfectly
The "A" matches up perfectly where it is stitched on through the piping
The yellow stitching on the smaller part of the tomahawk lines up perfectly to where it lines up with the piping
The spacing between the "S" and the tomahawk match up perfectly

kingjammy24
01-22-2007, 04:09 PM
i'm always interested in learning more about photomatching techniques. as such, i'd appreciate if the folks who helped kyle out could please help me to understand how they came to their conclusions. namely:

- "The patches on the right side of the jersey are stitched higher than on the left"

how was it determined that the misalignment of the left/right portions in the photos was a genuine misalignment as opposed to one side of the jersey being pulled up/down during action? many jerseys have the front logos cut into 2 portions. the slightest move or bend will naturally cause one end to become misaligned with the other. considering that jordan wasn't photographed with his jersey perfectly flat and straight, how was it confirmed that the misalignment wasn't due to a stretching, bending, etc?

unless the player is perfectly straight and the jersey flat, i'd think it'd be pretty difficult to find a pic where the logo portions line up perfectly. that is, in pics they'll usually appear misaligned if the player is engaged in any sort of action. see pics below. plenty of misaligned portions.

- "The "V" doesn't touch the piping"

i don't understand what this means. the "v" is literally on top of the piping. what am i missing?

-"The spacing between the buttons and the patches match perfectly"

can someone please tell me how this was determined?

- "The "A" matches up perfectly where it is stitched on through the piping"

as seen in the photos below, it seems many of the braves jerseys in 1999 had the A sewn in this exact location.

"The spacing between the "S" and the tomahawk match up perfectly"

kyle, how was this spacing determined?

at any rate, here are some random photos of braves jerseys of 1999. none of them are from brian jordan:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9064/braves5dd.jpg

kyle, as you know, the photos you posted are from spring training 2000. while it's entirely likely the braves carried over some 1999 jerseys, i'd be interested to know if your 1999 jordan shows any remnants of a sleeve patch? in '99, the braves wore the hank aaron 715 patch.

rudy.

hblakewolf
01-22-2007, 04:40 PM
Rudy-
No slight to those who provided info on this jersey, however, in my opinion, quite a few people on this Forum do not understand what "photo matching" entails or actually means.

For example, when you can determine that the pinstripes and the NY match a photo, or a blood stain on a jersey matches that in a photo, then that's a "photomatch". Just because a player is wearing purple Nike batting gloves on a baseball card or in a photo and a fellow Forum reader has similar purple gloves, this is not a "photo match". There have been so many posts here on "photomatching" that are not even close, it leads one to believe that the term is simply not completely understood.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

ALWAYS BUYING PHILLIES, PORTLAND BEAVERS AND PORTLAND MAVERICKS JERSEYS

kylehess10
01-22-2007, 05:27 PM
i'm always interested in learning more about photomatching techniques. as such, i'd appreciate if the folks who helped kyle out could please help me to understand how they came to their conclusions. namely:

- "The patches on the right side of the jersey are stitched higher than on the left"

how was it determined that the misalignment of the left/right portions in the photos was a genuine misalignment as opposed to one side of the jersey being pulled up/down during action? many jerseys have the front logos cut into 2 portions. the slightest move or bend will naturally cause one end to become misaligned with the other. considering that jordan wasn't photographed with his jersey perfectly flat and straight, how was it confirmed that the misalignment wasn't due to a stretching, bending, etc?

unless the player is perfectly straight and the jersey flat, i'd think it'd be pretty difficult to find a pic where the logo portions line up perfectly. that is, in pics they'll usually appear misaligned if the player is engaged in any sort of action. see pics below. plenty of misaligned portions.

- "The "V" doesn't touch the piping"

i don't understand what this means. the "v" is literally on top of the piping. what am i missing?

-"The spacing between the buttons and the patches match perfectly"

can someone please tell me how this was determined?

- "The "A" matches up perfectly where it is stitched on through the piping"

as seen in the photos below, it seems many of the braves jerseys in 1999 had the A sewn in this exact location.

"The spacing between the "S" and the tomahawk match up perfectly"

kyle, how was this spacing determined?

at any rate, here are some random photos of braves jerseys of 1999. none of them are from brian jordan:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9064/braves5dd.jpg

kyle, as you know, the photos you posted are from spring training 2000. while it's entirely likely the braves carried over some 1999 jerseys, i'd be interested to know if your 1999 jordan shows any remnants of a sleeve patch? in '99, the braves wore the hank aaron 715 patch.

rudy.

Sorry if it isn't a photomatch. I simply thought it was since a lot of things matched up and I was supposing just if not 1, then just a couple jersey's were worn in spring training.


while it's entirely likely the braves carried over some 1999 jerseys, i'd be interested to know if your 1999 jordan shows any remnants of a sleeve patch? in '99, the braves wore the hank aaron 715 patch.

Yes, I do know for a fact that it was carried over from 1999. The Hank Aaron patch was removed and the MLB logo was stitched onto the back (in '99 they didn't have the MLB logo, while in 2000 it was required for all MLB teams).



- "The patches on the right side of the jersey are stitched higher than on the left"

how was it determined that the misalignment of the left/right portions in the photos was a genuine misalignment as opposed to one side of the jersey being pulled up/down during action? many jerseys have the front logos cut into 2 portions. the slightest move or bend will naturally cause one end to become misaligned with the other. considering that jordan wasn't photographed with his jersey perfectly flat and straight, how was it confirmed that the misalignment wasn't due to a stretching, bending, etc?

unless the player is perfectly straight and the jersey flat, i'd think it'd be pretty difficult to find a pic where the logo portions line up perfectly. that is, in pics they'll usually appear misaligned if the player is engaged in any sort of action. see pics below. plenty of misaligned portions.

I was comparing the jersey to a picture of Jordan during the 2000 season where the picture showed him wearing a home jersey that had the right side stitched more upward, unlike my jersey. I didn't know that a lot of Braves jersey's are stitched that same way a lot.



- "The "V" doesn't touch the piping"

i don't understand what this means. the "v" is literally on top of the piping. what am i missing?

Sorry for the confusion on that; I was talking about the first loop in the V. I've seen some pictures where the V touches the piping and others don't.



-"The spacing between the buttons and the patches match perfectly"

can someone please tell me how this was determined?

It was simply by looking at it. Just like from that other post a few days ago, where someone was trying to photomatch a Yankees road World Series jersey, and the buttons were off by a lot. I'm not saying that they are 100% matched up to the exact millimeter, but it just looks like a pretty good match to me, considering how far away the picture was taken.



- "The "A" matches up perfectly where it is stitched on through the piping"

as seen in the photos below, it seems many of the braves jerseys in 1999 had the A sewn in this exact location.

I didn't know that at all. I was just trying to match every single part up, incase there was anything at all that wouldn't have been a match. Ya never know, it could've been stictched on a centimeter to the left or in some other direction


"The spacing between the "S" and the tomahawk match up perfectly"

kyle, how was this spacing determined?

Just like I said a few comments above, it was just a pure guess and just by looking at it, it looked to be stitched in the exact same spot. Plus I had seen a few other pictures where the S is a little closer towards the tommahawk.




Thanks for your help

both-teams-played-hard
01-22-2007, 05:43 PM
There have been so many posts here on "photomatching" that are not even close, it leads one to believe that the term is simply not completely understood.



Howard, you are exactly right. Even if the player gives you his jersey after the game, and you have a photo from that game...its still not a "photo-match". Board burns, puck marks, repairs, loose threads, grass-stains are the best ways to accurately analyze a photo and compare it to a jersey.
If a jersey was bought from MLB or the NFL with an actual game date assigned, that isn't nesessarily a photo-match to any photograph from that same game.
However, a definite photo-match is worth way more than any LOA.

kingjammy24
01-22-2007, 07:49 PM
i know the issues of what truly constitutes a photomatch have been discussed at length, but a good part of me thinks that if a person doesn't have an inherant understanding of what constitutes "accuracy", then they'll never understand photomatching or its issues. to some people, 1mm is the same thing as 1.2mm. to others, the two are clearly different.

if you honestly feel that you can look at 2 entirely different images (different sizes, different angles) and, without compensating for the differences, doing any calculations to discern the measurements, or even employing a ruler, you can simply use an unaided glance to state that 2 elements match up "perfectly" based solely on a guess, then you've tossed the whole concept of accuracy completely out the window.

the entire point of a photomatch is that you've almost entirely eliminated the likelihood of the jersey in hand not being the jersey in the photo; that it leaves almost no doubt. think about what it really takes to eliminate that much doubt. it means eliminating issues like the fact that tons of braves jerseys are sewn identically or that the human eye can't easily discern the difference 1mm and 1.5mm which is the level of measurement we're talking about with the jordan photos. i fail to see how simply glancing at something and, without arriving at any numbers or do any calculations, stating that something "looks pretty good" or "matches perfectly" can really lead to an accurate conclusion.

anyway, here are a couple of posts from grob that i think do a nice job of illuminating some of the issues with photomatching:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/379976/message/1120086027/last-1120092818/Mensuration

http://www.network54.com/Forum/379976/message/1108903557/

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=2061

kyle, truth be told i think you were looking at the right things. for all i know, the jersey is a genuine photomatch. however, my issue is that the conclusions didn't seem to have anything solid to back them up. no numbers, no measurements, no ratios, nothing. to me, "perfect" and "exact same" mean perfect and exact same. you can't discern such subtleties (from different angles no less) simply by taking a "pure guess". a "pretty good match" isn't a photomatch. i have plenty of jerseys that are pretty good matches. in fact, i can't see any differences between them and photos. however, the lack of a unique marker prevents from me eliminating the likely possibility that the photo is showing another similar jersey. until i can completely eliminate that possbility, i can't call them photomatches. in order to be accurate and conclusive, i'm not going to be able to eliminate that possibility simply by guessing or relying on my unaided ability to visually discern miniscule measurements.

in my experience, unless a non-pinstriped jersey has some completely unique markers like stains, torn threads, or one-in-a-million manufacturing defects (eg: "angels" being spelled "angles"), it's extremely difficult to photomatch. the sizing of the front logo isn't enough. there are dozens and dozens of jerseys pumped out, many of which have perfectly identical front logos.

rudy.

JCC1968
01-23-2007, 10:24 AM
1968 Braves bat boy jersey and photo

Hi Group

This is an interesting find. Alittle while ago I bought a picture of Hank Aaron with the bat boy (this is an unpublished picture). Recently the same person who sold me the picture decided to sell the jersey that was in the drawer next to the picture. As you can see the jersey in the picture was orginally sewn together due to the boy being so small for it. The jersey I have is a proper button up one with the same lettering and style as the pictured one. (Noticed the letters were moved over on the one in the picture to compensate for this. This jersey has no compensation for this. I believe that this jersey I have was used perhaps in later in the season or the following year? Would love to talk to the bat bay if anyone knows how to get ahold of him. No luck with the people I bought the picture and jersey from. (The chest of drawers came out of Atlanta, Georgia) The whole chest of drawers was filled with baseball memoriblia. Balls mainly. I did pick up a nice baseball signed by the 1971 Braves team signed baseball that also has members of the gas house gang on it? (Terry Moore, Frank Frisch, and Dizzy Dean) I guess that is another story.

Thanks

Jason

ham1963
01-23-2007, 04:14 PM
What a great find :D thanks for sharing

gameused
01-26-2007, 03:58 AM
I can't believe this! I was looking at some 2006 David Ortiz photos that I saved and think I found a photo match.

The game photo of Ortiz hitting a double is from 9-29-06 vs Orioles.

I made the last two photos larger and brighter.

I found three clear matches on the bat:

The cleat marks on the left barrel area, the tar less area just below the silver ring and the dark pine tar on the lower handle (made darker from the black palm area of his leather batting gloves)

Let me know what you think!

Thanks, Bobby

3arod13
01-26-2007, 04:27 AM
I can't believe this! I was looking at some 2006 David Ortiz photos that I saved and think I found a photo match.

The game photo of Ortiz hitting a double is from 9-29-06 vs Orioles.

I made the last two photos larger and brighter.

I found three clear matches on the bat:

The cleat marks on the left barrel area, the tar less area just below the silver ring and the dark pine tar on the lower handle (made darker from the black palm area of his leather batting gloves)

Let me know what you think!

Thanks, Bobby

Bobby, nice photo match!

kylehess10
03-21-2007, 05:58 PM
I just photomatched my Daryle Ward 2006 BP jersey to September 19th. I was sure it was the picture of him wearing it anyways since he only played for the Braves for 1 month. Anyways, there is a loose stitch on the top of the tomahawk which matches perfectly in the picture:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/ward002.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/ward005.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/72026579.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/ctmpphppRTX1f.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/ctmpphpz1dRhZ.jpg

josports
03-22-2007, 07:04 PM
Does this match?? This is what photo match means. See the exact wear or any distingiushing marks that MATCHES a jersey to a particular player and game.

Jarrod

pujols916
03-23-2007, 08:45 AM
that jersey is sick are you taking offers if they are worth it

kylehess10
04-16-2007, 08:30 PM
I just photomatched my Daryle Ward 2006 BP jersey to September 19th. I was sure it was the picture of him wearing it anyways since he only played for the Braves for 1 month. Anyways, there is a loose stitch on the top of the tomahawk which matches perfectly in the picture:


http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/72026579.jpg








Wanted to add more to this since I have a much bigger picture now and I found a few more matches. The pictures on the left is Ward in the picture and the ones on the right are the matches on the jersey I have

sportscentury
04-21-2007, 08:47 PM
Eric,

As promised, I am starting off this thread with my pinstripe photo-matched 1985 Steve Carlton game worn home jersey. I'll post Lefty's final major league game-worn fielder's glove later tonight. I look forward to seeing other forum members' photo-matched items. Enjoy Lefty's shirt.

Reid

Just an update - today I photomatched Carlton's 1985 jersey to another in-action photo from 1985.

Best,
Reid
rgf2@hotmail.com

P.S. As an aside, I owned the fielder's glove he's wearing at one point, as well.

kylehess10
05-03-2007, 10:18 PM
Just added another photomatched piece to my collection! And for only $75! It's a Kurt Abbott game used 2000 World Series bat. In game 5, he fouled a pitch to the left and his bat shattered and flew all the way to Derek Jeter. Jeter grabbed the bat and fans yelled at him to throw it back at him (to copy what Clemens did to Piazza) but he just gave it back to the batboy. The way the bat is split perfectly matches the pictures. I just ordered a few nice 8x10's from the "getty guy" which I'll be getting on Monday most likely. I'll post the close-ups once I get them so I can hopefully be able to match up some of the ball marks on the barrel.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/S3010798.jpg

Here is Abbott as he shattered the bat:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/635957.jpg


The bat landed in front of Jeter:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/ok.jpg


Jeter picks up the bat:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/51567466.jpg


Jeter walks towards the dugout with the bat:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/644660.jpg


The batboy takes the bat from Jeter:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/untitled-4.jpg

bubbrubb25
05-04-2007, 09:55 AM
Where did you get that bat?

kylehess10
05-04-2007, 11:49 AM
Where did you get that bat?


On eBay. It had a reserve at $45 and I asked the seller what the price was and he said $75, which is what I won it for.

kylehess10
05-06-2007, 12:12 PM
I just photomatched my Felipe Lopez 2006 Reds helmet to a pic of him with Griffey:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmet1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmet2.jpg


http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmetphotomatch1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmet7.jpg

indyred
05-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Those are some great matches Kyle. My favorite thread in here.

kylehess10
05-07-2007, 03:55 PM
To follow up with the Abbott/Jeter bat, I just got in the 8x10's today and I got some pretty up-close shots of the bat and it looks like a match!

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/ctmpphpuQB1wD.jpg

bubbrubb25
05-10-2007, 06:07 PM
Hey Kyle are you going to be putting that bat on eBay any time soon?:cool:

jon_8_us
05-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Here's my Sheffield bat that he used to hit a HR against the Red Sox on 10/1/05.
jon

kylehess10
05-12-2007, 01:14 PM
Hey Kyle are you going to be putting that bat on eBay any time soon?:cool:


Actually, I was planning on putting it back on eBay right away since I had gotten it at such a low price but after seeing the photomatches I just had to keep it. After all, where else can you get a Derek Jeter game-held World Series bat for $75?? :D

kylehess10
05-22-2007, 03:38 PM
I photomatched my Julio Franco game worn 2006 Mets pants to a pic from June 22,2006, when he went 2-for-4 with a stolen base and a double. I also actually pinstripe-photomatched it as well:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/francopants1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/francopants2.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/72123684.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/francopantsphotomatch.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/photomatch-3.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/72124012.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/72124015.jpg

dcrules01
05-22-2007, 04:32 PM
Kyle im interested in your Abbott bat if you ever wanna sell it outright lmk shoot me an email dcrules01@msn.com..Thanks

kylehess10
05-22-2007, 05:28 PM
Kyle im interested in your Abbott bat if you ever wanna sell it outright lmk shoot me an email dcrules01@msn.com..Thanks


I'm looking to keep it for now but if I ever do decide to sell it I'll let you know




Kyle

metsbats
05-25-2007, 07:50 PM
KyleHess

Great bat and photo match!!

If you ever want to sell that bat promise me you'd give me first crack (pun intended!)

David

dcrules01
05-26-2007, 05:51 AM
Looks like you are gonna have a Mets collectors riot over that bat :D

bubbrubb25
05-26-2007, 10:16 AM
Hey Hey Hey wait a minute look back at the posts I asked first. Rember I get first dibbs. :)

dcrules01
05-26-2007, 11:15 AM
Well let the auction begin :D

kylehess10
05-28-2007, 02:29 PM
I know this one may sound a little crazy, but I think I photomatched my Daryle Ward game worn hat. He only played one month for the Braves, and I already have his photomatched BP jersey from 9/19/06, but I think that the hat I also have worn by him is the same in the picture of him wearing the jersey which I already own. There is a loose stitch on the lower part of the "A" (which I have circled in the photo).

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/wardhat1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/72026579-1.jpg



http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/wardhatmatch.jpg

staindsox
05-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Kyle, you're getting to be a real pro at this. You should start your own business. You could charge people to photomatch their stuff. Forum members could send you some photos and if you get a match, they could paypal you whatever your price is before you send them the photo showing the match. It would be a cool way to fund buying some more stuff. Just a thought.

Chris

JETEFAN
05-29-2007, 03:35 PM
I have photo matched my 1987 Mattingly jersey to him wearing it at the 1987 All-Star game. I was only able to find 1 picture but the NY and pinstripes match up perfectly! Will post pics as soon as I can. Can anyone suggest were I might be able to find other 1987 All Star game Donnie pics, already checked Getty.

Thanks
George

kingjammy24
05-29-2007, 03:47 PM
george,

try getting the 1987 AS Game on dvd. i think kyle once posted the website of a guy who was selling 20+ years of mlb all star games on dvd.

here's a few: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170116572603

no 1987 though. maybe the seller has '87 game though? keep your eyes peeled on ebay though. every now and then old games on dvd or vhs pop up.

see if you can match up the rear numbers. i've seen the NYY logo placed in the same spot on a few different yankees jerseys.

rudy.

kylehess10
05-29-2007, 04:06 PM
george,

try getting the 1987 AS Game on dvd. i think kyle once posted the website of a guy who was selling 20+ years of mlb all star games on dvd.

here's a few: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170116572603

no 1987 though. maybe the seller has '87 game though? keep your eyes peeled on ebay though. every now and then old games on dvd or vhs pop up.

see if you can match up the rear numbers. i've seen the NYY logo placed in the same spot on a few different yankees jerseys.

rudy.


Yep, and this guy has '87 too:

http://store.rarelivedvd.com/baallstgadv.html

JETEFAN
05-30-2007, 08:17 AM
Thanks guys, ordered my DVD !!!

George

kylehess10
05-30-2007, 11:33 AM
I made another photomatch! This one looks awesome and I'm still shocked that I photomatched a Braves BP jersey again. It's a Marcus Giles game worn 2006 BP jersey and I photomatched it to April 5th. There is one long loose stitch on the "A" in "BRAVES" and it matches perfectly!

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/gilesjersey1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/gilesjersey2.jpg



http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/april5.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/thisone.jpg

staindsox
05-30-2007, 12:11 PM
Kyle, I'm telling you, you should start charging people to photomatch their stuff. You're the photomatching stud. Another nice match!

Chris

kylehess10
05-30-2007, 01:56 PM
Kyle, I'm telling you, you should start charging people to photomatch their stuff. You're the photomatching stud. Another nice match!

Chris

Thanks; I'll make a new page on my site for it and give it a try






Kyle

worldchamps
05-30-2007, 02:14 PM
Kyle,

How do you enlarge the getty image pictures, when I try they lose their sharpness??

kylehess10
05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
Kyle,

How do you enlarge the getty image pictures, when I try they lose their sharpness??

I order the 8x10's from the "getty guy". e-mail me at kylehess941@hotmail.com if you want his info (he charges $5 per 8x10 getty photo)

Jason
06-15-2007, 02:40 AM
I have only noticed a handful of hockey collectors here, but I'm enjoying seeing gamers from other sports.

I recently Photo matched my Alexander Frolov rookie Kings jersey. I obtained a high resolution image from a game during his rookie season and was able to positively identify several characteristics in the photo matching my jersey. The most noticeable are some team repairs on the arm of the jersey. When I was putting together the image below, I accidentally also identified the stick he is using as a stick in my possession as well! Needless to say I was very pleased with my discovery :)

http://alexanderfrolov.com/images/FrolovPhotoMatch.jpg

kylehess10
07-14-2007, 06:56 PM
I now have TWO photomatches for my Felipe Lopez game worn 2006 Reds helmet, as I have found yet another photomatch today. The picture is from May 10,2006, when Lopez had 4 stolen bases, 3 runs, & 2 walks. There is a white mark next to the air hole which matches.....


http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmet1.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmetphotomatch2.jpg

Here's the other photomatch but from an unknown date:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmetphotomatch1.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/lopezhelmet7.jpg

cammy collector
07-24-2007, 11:44 PM
Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?

Unless there is a distinctive characteristic that stands out, you can not photo match an item. Pinstripes on a jersey, stains, rips, tears, hit marks, etc...

I feel many people just want there item to be the one in the photo, so they start seeing things. Again, a photo-match must have a characteristic such as listed above. Just because an item was signed by the player that he used it on a special day, the photo-matching is great, but unless there is something amazing such as the two jerseys with pin-stripe locational matches (that Yankees jersey is so cool) it is very hard to call an item photo-matched.


I couldn't agree with you more. It's been stated several times in this thread yet people continue to showcase "style matched" items. So be it...

Mike Cameron game used Reds helmet
(notice the long white streak on the back side of the helmet present in the photo as well)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/marinerfan815/Personal%20Collection/Player%20Collections/Mike%20Cameron/MEMORABILIA/CammyHelmet1.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/marinerfan815/Personal%20Collection/Player%20Collections/Mike%20Cameron/MEMORABILIA/CammyHelmetBACK.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/marinerfan815/Personal%20Collection/Player%20Collections/Mike%20Cameron/MEMORABILIA/CammyHelmetCard2.jpg

JETEFAN
08-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Thanks to forum members, I was able to photo-match my 1987 Mattingly home jersey to a picture from Getty for the NY and stripes on the front and DVD video for the back 23 and stripes, they line up perfectly all the way around.. It gets better !! It's photo-matched to Donnie Baseball wearing my jersey in the 1987 All-Star game!!!!!!! Do you guys think being an All-Star jersey it would make much of a difference value wise?

Thanks

indyred
09-06-2007, 10:29 PM
With a little help from dcrules and others in here talking about using mlb.com as a place where old games can be found. I was able to snap a couple shots of my Brad Wilkerson pink Mother's Day bat from this year. I didn't even know he hit a home run in the game. I'm almost positive he used the bat I have in all 4 of his at bats, including the home run shot. His first time up the bat is real clean with nothing noticeable and his last time up the bat shows great ball marks, where he had made contact through out the game. The pine tar and look of the bat looks the same for each at bat.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilkerson006.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilk003.jpg

dcrules01
09-06-2007, 10:40 PM
Glad I could help awesome bat btw...:cool:

Vintagedeputy
09-06-2007, 11:18 PM
Fantastic bat. I see everyone is now shooting pics of their monitors! my secret is out!

Jim

zookerman182
09-08-2007, 03:59 PM
yeah i didnt come up with the idea in a soriano bat photomatch thread or anything.....:D

sportscentury
09-11-2007, 09:50 AM
I am simply amazed by some of the photo-matches that have been presented here. Outstanding!

As for the Donnie Baseball jersey, it is undoubtedly worth more as a photomatched All Star Game shirt in addition to being his regular season shirt - was there a patch added and then removed or did they not have A.S. patches in 1987?

kylehess10
09-13-2007, 06:36 PM
Thanks to MLB.tv, I now know every single game that Eli Marrero wore the home pinstriped jersey that I own. The first photomatch is from Opening Day 2006, the second is from May 4th, and the third is from June 4th. I already posted pictures from Opening Day & June 4th a few pages back so here's the new photomatch from May 4th, 2006:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3445&stc=1&d=1169005138

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3446&stc=1&d=1169005152

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/S3011200.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/S3011201.jpg

sportscentury
09-14-2007, 06:04 PM
Kyle,

You are officially the photo-match king! Nice jersey.

Have a good weekend,
Reid

Swoboda4
09-22-2007, 11:38 PM
Mothers Day 2007
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/redmills/chavez6.jpg?t=1190521866http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/redmills/Chavez10.jpg?t=1190522162
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/redmills/Chavez9.jpg?t=1190522221

sportscentury
09-23-2007, 12:45 AM
The Chavez is terrific ... can we see a full photo of the back of the jersey for photo-matching? The C looks good but it would be nice to see the complete back.

Also, this is the first GUF thread to have been viewed 10,000+ times. Amazing. This thread, along with several other GUF threads about photo-matching terminology, semantics, and related issues, have clearly had an impact on the role of photo-matching in the hobby.

dcrules01
09-23-2007, 03:26 AM
Just picked this up.Nice dirt marks on the back.The Los was added to the Mets so the jersey was used in more than this game.Looking for better photos..
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/losmetsgotaya-1.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/losmetsgotay2a.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/losmets002.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/losmets001.jpg

Swoboda4
09-23-2007, 08:26 AM
Mothers Day Part 2
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/redmills/DSCF0011.jpg?t=1190553521http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/74210633.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1935A6DEC864C2BC5D9652C15721E3CE876 C7631F868A8C7D54

dcrules01
09-23-2007, 12:01 PM
This would look good with that.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/endymothersday.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/Game%20Used/chavezmothersday003.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/Game%20Used/chavezmothersday002.jpg

05whitesox
09-23-2007, 12:49 PM
Here is a jim thome game used bat from the 2007 season

kylehess10
10-21-2007, 11:06 PM
Well, it's been 3 days and I already found a photomatch for my Jarrod Saltalamacchia game used bat! The weird thing is, though, that the picture is from when he was in the minors!

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/saltybat1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/PHOTOMATCH-4.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/kylehess10/PHOTOMATCH2.jpg

Vintagedeputy
10-21-2007, 11:34 PM
Kyle - that is a no doubter! If you got it from the A-Braves store, then its certainly a rookie bat that he brought up with him when he got to the majors. Great find!

Jim

cigarman44
10-21-2007, 11:38 PM
Salt must have loved that bat. That thing is pounded!

JasonHalliburton
10-22-2007, 09:26 AM
Here is one of my best....The bat used to hit the first homerun in the Nationals history, at RFK Stadium.

Vinny Castilla MLB Hologrammed 4-14-2007 game used bat.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/52645044.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE066058A7C967D003 4E9C89C783688B46

JasonHalliburton
10-22-2007, 09:29 AM
Here's The Other One. It's a pair of Jose Guillen's game worn HR 17 batting gloves from July 24,2005. Just the same as the Furcal cleats, I found a pic of him that day on Getty Images.

Kyle,

I have that bat that is in Guillen's hands in that photo!!

Jason

kylehess10
10-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Kyle,

I have that bat that is in Guillen's hands in that photo!!

Jason


You do? I thought All Star Plus had it

JasonHalliburton
10-22-2007, 04:30 PM
That seems to be a problem....If Andrew has the bat, and mine matches up on the photo's.....I bought mine from Elite Sports.

JasonHalliburton
10-22-2007, 04:56 PM
Brad Wilkerson MLB hologramed as being used in the Nat's inagural game, 4-4-05. On MLB TV the announcer comments about the bat breaking on the 2nd at bat. Quite posibly the same bat that was used in his 1st at bat, the very first at bat and hit in Nationals history....It is the same kind of bat, I just can't find a good, quality photo of the 1st at bat. Not enough marks that I can see.
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/52604809.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=BA2FEF8E64872B721736CD30EAC29D20A46BB8D1E5A89175

kylehess10
10-22-2007, 07:00 PM
That seems to be a problem....If Andrew has the bat, and mine matches up on the photo's.....I bought mine from Elite Sports.


Here's the original post when Andrew showed me pics of the Guillen bat.....LMK if it's the same you have:


http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=6900&highlight=17th

JasonHalliburton
10-22-2007, 10:12 PM
Jose Vidro MLB hologrammed as used on 4-7-05. The Getty photo is from the same game. He hit a game winning HR, but it was with a Louisville Slugger. Must have broken mine, just prior to that HR.:(
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/52631030.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE3B3CD7C6A63FFCDC 4E9C89C783688B46

JasonHalliburton
10-22-2007, 10:32 PM
Brad Wilkerson X bat. It is hologrammed as broken on 7-9-05. This Getty photo is from 7-1-05. You can see the pine tar on the handle is the same.
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/53321775.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=6E4DA7A2E6F912DE1995D70B93EE1B86A46BB8D1E5A89175

ducksdukes
10-23-2007, 02:32 AM
Does Pat Catello authenticate game used items for Dolphin game used equipment. I know he was equipment manager in past, I am just curious if he provides service or if he is affiliated with any authentication group.

Thanks

indyred
11-11-2007, 01:21 PM
Wily Mo Pena Red Sox bat. The Steiner letter states it is 2007 game used cracked bat. Has a hairline crack, tough to even find with all the tar Wily puts on his bats. Was glad to just get a small piece of history from the Red Sox 2007 season, even if Wily got traded late in the season. I looked up the MLB authentication serial # and it says vs. Seattle at Fenway. I check on MLB.com games and watch his 4-4 game at Fenway on May 3. Can see the marks match up from his first at bat. I then go back and and see if he used it before that game. His next previous at bats were in Baltimore on April 26. A game he hit a grand slam to win the game in the 8th. I was able to video match it to that game, even the grand slam at bat!
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilymobatmachseabalt031.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilymobatmachseabalt032.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilymobatmachseabalt016.jpg
His at bat right before his grand slam in Baltimore.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilymobatmachseabalt022.jpg
His first at bat vs. Seattle in Boston.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/pinkbats09/wilymobatmachseabalt008.jpg

gameused
11-11-2007, 04:24 PM
Indy,

Nice bat and perfect photo match. I believe Wily Mo will be a great hitter someday!

Bobby

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 01:13 AM
I would like to say I did a ton of research to find this photo-match, but it was actually really easy. I bought this pair of Shaun Livingston shoe and the person sent me a pair that was not the ones I thought I was getting. i was kind of upset because the ones I thought I was getting looked cooler. Turns out the pair he ended up sending me were a pair of playoff worn shoes that Shaun only wore during the 05-06 playoffs against the Suns and Nuggets. He had never wore color scheme before and it was a perfect match. You can see from the picture I purchased from Getty how good the shoes match the picture. I wish I could post the entire picture of Shaun putting down the slam in these shoes but the file is way too big to post.

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 01:24 AM
Here is another photo-match I have. A fellow board member showed me the pic on Getty but I couldnt tell if the writing was on the shoes or not. Al Harrington wore this style for about 2 months after the death of his teammate Jason Collier. When I purchased the image it was clear to see that this was an exact photo-match. For some reason this was the only pair he wrote "Blessed", "Takeover 3" and "IMP Alton" on. Not sure of the meaning but would love to ask Al one day.

Swoboda4
11-12-2007, 07:02 AM
The Harrington Sneaker is not a match. In the game left sneaker's IMP the "I" is directly over the A in Alton and the "I" looks like a "J". Your sneaker the I(which looks like a "I" ) is over the T in Alton.
In the game sneaker the 3 in Takeover 3 is below the R. In your sneaker the 3 is even with the r in takeover.

Vintagedeputy
11-12-2007, 07:34 AM
The Harrington Sneaker is not a match. In the game left sneaker's IMP the "I" is directly over the A in Alton and the "I" looks like a "J". Your sneaker the I(which looks like a "I" ) is over the T in Alton.
In the game sneaker the 3 in Takeover 3 is below the R. In your sneaker the 3 is even with the r in takeover.


The second E in takeover looks to be different as well.

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 01:36 PM
You dont think it could be the angle? Both E's loop upwards and could look like lowercase E's from a distance. I cant find another picture of Harrington writing that on his shoes. I looked back at pictures from the entire season and that was the only game he had those inscriptions from what I remember.

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 01:41 PM
The more and more I look you maybe right on the Harrington's. The O doesnt connect in takeover. Oh well its a nice style match, and the Livingstons are a perfect match at least.

Mine is definitely closer than most of the people's "photo-matches" on here.

both-teams-played-hard
11-12-2007, 02:06 PM
The more and more I look you maybe right on the Harrington's. The O doesnt connect in takeover. Oh well its a nice style match, and the Livingstons are a perfect match at least.

Mine is definitely closer than most of the people's "photo-matches" on here.

The Harrington tributes are written in the same hand as the getty pic. No telling if Harrington wrote them himself or had someone else do the writing (ie. equip. manager). It's not a true photo-match, but is a cool collectible.

skipcareyisfat
11-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Mine is definitely closer than most of the people's "photo-matches" on here.

I disagree. Most of the photo-matches around here are legit matches. Maybe we should start a style match thread?

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 03:17 PM
I disagree. Most of the photo-matches around here are legit matches. Maybe we should start a style match thread?

One of the two I posted was a "legit" photo-match. I never really looked close enough at the Harrington's because I could not find another game that he wore the shoes with those inscriptions. So I just assumed they were the same and never really looked at every little loop like I did on the Livingston's.

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 03:22 PM
The Harrington tributes are written in the same hand as the getty pic. No telling if Harrington wrote them himself or had someone else do the writing (ie. equip. manager). It's not a true photo-match, but is a cool collectible.

You know I always wondered about that as well. But my thoughts on that are if they are personal messages to people then they are probably personally written. Just my opinion though! If I wanted a message written to a family member on my shoes I think it would mean more to write them myself, not have some random person write what I want on them for me.

Also in the autograph the 3's are very similar to the 3 after Takeover. They are bigger and more rushed in the signature, but they look very similar.

skipcareyisfat
11-12-2007, 03:46 PM
I can't tell what's written on the heel in the New Orleans pic, but the writing in the other shot looks similar to what's on your shoes.

indyred
11-12-2007, 04:06 PM
That is sweet piece of Nationals history. I could see them someday wanting to know if they could display that at some team history exhibit. Do they know you own it? Did they auction the bat off? Did you know before buying it that it was first home run bat in the teams history? I know for me, I was just getting red x's on your pictures. Seems to be working now. You have some great Nationals stuff....



Here is one of my best....The bat used to hit the first homerun in the Nationals history, at RFK Stadium.

Vinny Castilla MLB Hologrammed 4-14-2007 game used bat.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/52645044.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE066058A7C967D003 4E9C89C783688B46

dwolfe12345
11-12-2007, 04:35 PM
I can't tell what's written on the heel in the New Orleans pic, but the writing in the other shot looks similar to what's on your shoes.

Since you are going out of your way to attempt to prove me wrong, why dont you prove me wrong with actual evidence?

What I said is there is not another example of "Takeover 3", "IMP Alton" on both sides, and "Blessed" on that style of shoe. He wore that style in January only, and then he went back to the style he wore earlier in the year. I never said he didnt write on shoes, I said there isnt another that has those phrases in those places that I can find. If I had a Getty account I could zoom in on the Phoenix game from Jan 27th 2005, because there looks to be something on the side of those. I just cant read it.

b.heagy
11-12-2007, 06:08 PM
Looks like the Jersey is a match to the photo. Has the same rip in the collar and loose threads in the SOX lettering as seen in the photo. I am not skilled in enhancing photo's, any help would be appreciated. Opinions please.

both-teams-played-hard
12-17-2007, 12:45 AM
I would call this BYU warm-up jersey a "photo-reference" or "style match". It is very hard to find true photo-matches of vintage items. It is very difficult to find any photos of 1970s college basketball warm-ups.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3041/byubrothers2wu9.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/517/byubrotherspl6.jpg

frikativ54
12-17-2007, 02:42 AM
Hey - how do you guys find these close-up photos of players' shoes? I have a Jeff Bagwell pair of cleats but can't find any close-up photo-matches for the front of them. I know they were used between 1997 and 1999, and have found some photomatches for the sides and back, but not the front.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j16/frikativ54/DSCN6944.jpg

I can find "5", but not the "Bagwell" written below it. Thanks for your help.

tym
12-18-2007, 02:36 AM
Look at the 30th anniversary patch with its fading and the way the Mariners letters line up on the button seam. I do think this is a great match.
Regards,
Ty - Visit our online Mariners Museum!
WWW.FriendsOfCFF.com (http://www.FriendsOfCFF.com)

http://friendsofcff.com/images/baseball/raul_felix/IMG_1681305.JPG
http://friendsofcff.com/images/baseball/raul_felix/raul_match.jpg

metsbats
12-22-2007, 03:32 PM
I was able to photo match my Carlos Delgado 86 Retro jersey to these photos from the Aug 20th 2006 game which was taken by our own DCRULES.

Thanks again for the photos Scott!

David

Vintagedeputy
12-22-2007, 05:11 PM
David,

Can you zoom in on that last pic to see if the loose thread in the #2 is there?

Jim

nomarmauerfan
12-22-2007, 05:57 PM
Are you sure you want to use the photo of Delgado scratching himself as a photomatch?:) Hahaha!!

Mike

metsbats
12-22-2007, 07:08 PM
David,

Can you zoom in on that last pic to see if the loose thread in the #2 is there?

Jim


Hi Jim,

I tried zooming on the front however the resolution is lost. On the nameplate there is a piece of blue thread under the "D" which when I zoom in I cannot see either because of poor resolution.

I'm viewing these thru ofoto.com. Perhaps if I had the original jpg the zooming could be done with better results.

David

metsbats
12-22-2007, 07:13 PM
Are you sure you want to use the photo of Delgado scratching himself as a photomatch?:) Hahaha!!

Mike


If I ever get the pants then I can use that photo to match any scratch marks :)

cjw
12-23-2007, 02:30 AM
I guess this is a technically a style match, but how many jerseys were made for this stinker of a 1970's movie? Gary Coleman's "Kid from left field". Love the Padres jersey of this era though...

cjw
12-23-2007, 02:32 AM
Pics didn't load first time...sorry

dcrules01
12-23-2007, 04:26 AM
No problem David great jersey ...Glad I could help..

metsbats
01-07-2008, 03:34 PM
I found this photo of Tom Glavine wearing a 2004 road jersey. On the right is my 2004 road. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Thanks
David

gameused
01-07-2008, 06:03 PM
David,

Nice Glavine jersey! I dont think you have a match, look at the patch on the left sleeve and compare the distance of the patch with the majestic logo on the sleeve. On the Corbis photo you can see the space is farther apart compared to your jersey.

Bobby

ahuff
01-07-2008, 06:17 PM
I also agree that it is simply a style match. Notice where the "4" and the "R" line up. They aren't the same in the two photos.

metsbats
01-07-2008, 06:23 PM
Thanks Bobby. I agree close but no cigar!

David

Rob L
01-07-2008, 07:36 PM
A 1999 Set 1 Road Jersey of Todd Greene. The photo is from a game at Yankee Stadium on 6-18-1999, 4th inning when Greene was picked off.
Lots of apparent matches but I wish I could ask Jeter if the back of this jersey matches what he tagged out on this play :)

Rob L

gingi79
01-07-2008, 08:51 PM
So after looking through this thread, I think I finally found a photomatch for my shirt! I am posting the pics here, feedback is encouraged via email or this thread! Thanks!

Here is the back of my 2006 Rookie Matt Diaz Braves jersey. Notice the name plate, the letter "D" is slightly crooked?

http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/40613/2112022970089729334S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2112022970089729334ooDyjF)

Here is the Getty Image blown up of a game he played in April 2006 against the Mets (Set 1 jersey so the time period is correct as well) Isnt the "D" exactly the same, a little crooked, matching mine?

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/38951/2847586540089729334S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2847586540089729334gLELjM)

So, what do ya think? Photomatched?

kylehess10
01-07-2008, 09:51 PM
So after looking through this thread, I think I finally found a photomatch for my shirt! I am posting the pics here, feedback is encouraged via email or this thread! Thanks!

Here is the back of my 2006 Rookie Matt Diaz Braves jersey. Notice the name plate, the letter "D" is slightly crooked?

http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/40613/2112022970089729334S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2112022970089729334ooDyjF)

Here is the Getty Image blown up of a game he played in April 2006 against the Mets (Set 1 jersey so the time period is correct as well) Isnt the "D" exactly the same, a little crooked, matching mine?

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/38951/2847586540089729334S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2847586540089729334gLELjM)

So, what do ya think? Photomatched?



It isn't a photomatch, just a style-match. All 2006 Braves jersey have arched lettering so the crooked "D" isn't a mistake. All his jerseys should look like that.

MichaelofSF
01-09-2008, 03:29 AM
2007 Alex Gordon GU rookie bat PHOTO matched used against the Yankees

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2179508001_b54d14b30c_b.jpg

and now the match:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2144/2180297376_9eb00ee935_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2053/2180297446_6c9c72611a_b.jpg

another view
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2179507869_55882fa2a4_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2229/2180297302_cb727c83c9_b.jpg

ball marks: (he went 3/4 on July 24th and 1/4 July 25th when he broke the bat)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/2180317226_86ec64dc00_b.jpg

zookerman182
01-09-2008, 12:44 PM
That gordon bat is beautiful! Congrats on the match. It was perfect before that, now its even better.

MichaelofSF
01-09-2008, 09:01 PM
Thanks for the compliment. I picked it up in a charity auction from the Omaha Royals on ebay last month (link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300182333317)). The MLB hologram number isn't in the database yet. So I typed in some hologram numbers above and below it. The above numbers were from July 26th and the below numbers were from July 24th. Did some searching for images from that time and found some pictures from the 24th and 25th, even images of him breaking the bat. When the bat arrived I was happy to see all of the ball marks as they weren't in the ebay listing.

zookerman182
01-10-2008, 06:02 AM
Looks like you got the bat for a fair price! Also cant beat money going to charity. The bat pictures you have look much nicer than the ones in the auction. I would say you found yourself a very nice bat.

metsbats
01-14-2008, 02:48 PM
I came across some game footage on YouTube for Ed Hearn and got these stills. I have his 86 road jersey and want to know if this is a photo match?

Appreciate any opinions once again.

Thanks
David

MichaelofSF
01-14-2008, 03:01 PM
I would say that the upper left (in respect to the jersey) corner of the "M" is higher up relative to the neck on your jersey than in the picture. In other words I think there is more space between neck line and "mets" in the picture than is present on your jersey. I could be wrong just my opinion.

metsbats
01-14-2008, 05:49 PM
The orange out line of the letter and numbers don't show up too well in the stills. This also gives the illusion that the end of the "t' crossing is farther away from the top of the "s" in Mets too.

It was hard to get a non-fuzzy still from the video unfortunately.

Thanks for the input Michael.

David

kylehess10
01-19-2008, 01:23 AM
This by far has got to be the most best-looking photomatch ever. I just got in a DVD of Game 5 of the 2000 World Series, with Kurt Abbott using the bat that I've had in my collection for about a year now. I have another post in this thread of this bat with more photomatched pictures of Derek Jeter picking up this bat after Abbott shattered it. Well.....here's video of the whole thing. This is amazing!


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/MOV01170.MPG

(You might have to pause the video once it first starts in order to let it load first)




http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/abbottbat1.jpg


Also during the at-bat, I was able to photomatch the blue ink-transfer that is above the MLB logo on the barrel of the bat, plus I could see more photomatches when the bat was rolling on the ground towards Jeter in the slow-motion replay. I can see all the other ink-transfers with it. Absolutely perfect matches

shirkr
01-20-2008, 12:17 PM
Waited in line at the Royals Fan Fest on Friday night and was one of the first to get in. Headed straight for the game used store and immediately snagged a Billy Butler bat. I noticed it was autographed but I did not notice the MLB hologram. Purchased the bat, came home, looked up the hologram number and it was a broken bat by Billy on July 21, 2007. Browsed the Getty Images stock of Butler from that night. One of the pictures is dead on, but the other pics from that night show the same bat. Enjoy.

kylehess10
01-23-2008, 03:48 AM
I have found a second photomatch for my Eli Marrero Opening Day 2006 jersey. I have this same pic of him breaking his bat from a front angle, and now I have the same shot from a back angle:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/marrero1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/marrerophotomatch3.jpg

brianborsch
01-23-2008, 05:07 AM
Shirkr,

Nice bat. I had the jersey he was wearing that game too, but I sold it for like $300. It's out there...somewhere....

Brian B

kylehess10
05-09-2008, 11:24 AM
I photomatched my Emil Brown game used bat to August 28th, 2007. After he broke his bat, they showed a close-up of the bat on TV, and the marks match up perfectly!

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC004952.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC004972.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC004992.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/BrownPhotomatch-1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/BrownPhotomatch7.jpg


Click on the picture below to view video of Brown breaking the bat:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/th_MOV09853.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV09853.flv)



Also I may have another match here from August 26th....the number on the knob and the TPX/MLB logo match up perfectly:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/August26th.jpg

indyred
05-09-2008, 11:38 AM
Outstanding match on the Emil Brown bat. The video clip is cool to have with it.

kylehess10
05-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Outstanding match on the Emil Brown bat. The video clip is cool to have with it.


yea that's ofcoarse my favorite kind of matches.....video matches. This is the reason why I ALWAYS look at the MLB holo number before buying. You never know what you may find when it comes to photomatches

dodgersfan
05-09-2008, 03:41 PM
For some reason I cannot see the video,Anyone else having the same problem?


Rudy




This by far has got to be the most best-looking photomatch ever. I just got in a DVD of Game 5 of the 2000 World Series, with Kurt Abbott using the bat that I've had in my collection for about a year now. I have another post in this thread of this bat with more photomatched pictures of Derek Jeter picking up this bat after Abbott shattered it. Well.....here's video of the whole thing. This is amazing!


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/MOV01170.MPG

(You might have to pause the video once it first starts in order to let it load first)




http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/abbottbat1.jpg


Also during the at-bat, I was able to photomatch the blue ink-transfer that is above the MLB logo on the barrel of the bat, plus I could see more photomatches when the bat was rolling on the ground towards Jeter in the slow-motion replay. I can see all the other ink-transfers with it. Absolutely perfect matches

kylehess10
05-09-2008, 03:54 PM
For some reason I cannot see the video,Anyone else having the same problem?


Rudy


Sorry about that....here's a new link:

http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV01170.flv

kylehess10
05-11-2008, 10:48 PM
I decided to take the tape off of the Emil Brown broken bat to see if I could get more matches and I sure did!!:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/photomatch5.jpg

cigarman44
07-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Hate starting new post if I dont have too so I dug this bad boy up...

Ive been trying to find a match for my glove since I bought it. Buying up old cards that might have the block letter stitching. Well I took a chance at buying an old Baseball Weekly from Feb 7, 2001 (not much of a chance at 6 bucks with shipping) and sure enough I have a match!

Now I can't call it a definate "photo match" but seeing all the pics of him during his pitching career, his black Rawlings gloves either had red or white cursive stictching. Concidering how often these guys change gloves there is a good chance this is it.

All the lengths of the visible laces also match up

cyd64
07-12-2008, 01:38 AM
Last year Cecil Fielder was the Manager for the Charlotte County Redfish of the 1 year and gone South Coast League.

I think this is a pretty good photo match! It's for sale too ;-)

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q389/gameusedmemorabilia/gujerseys016.jpg
http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q389/gameusedmemorabilia/gujerseys020.jpg

jkalathas
07-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Mariano Rivera Game Used 2007 Yankees Home Jersey, photo matched

thomecollector
07-12-2008, 01:13 PM
Here's a nice Thome Negro League throwback uniform from the game vs Royals. Notice where the bat is setting. Also has a MLB hologram.:D

bubbrubb25
07-12-2008, 02:46 PM
Carlos Ruiz
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/bubbrubb25/Picture5629.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/bubbrubb25/ruiz11.jpg

CapitalsFan
07-13-2008, 07:37 PM
First post here! Been reading for a while and decided to register. I wanted to share a pickup from yesterday's Washington Capitals equipment sale. I was able to find a photo match pretty quickly on Getty. Photo matched 100% to Preseason Game on Sept. 25th, 2007. After a little more searching I'm pretty sure these were also used in the 2nd half of the 2006-2007 regular season. Skates are HAMMERED with use.

Alexander Semin 2006-2007, 2007-2008 Game Used Skates

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/USABaseball/P7130010.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/USABaseball/P7130011.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/USABaseball/P7130013.jpg

Notice the lines of wear on the left boot near the heel and also the smudge near the front of the blade.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search%7C1&axs=0%7C78539824%2c78539823%2c78436177%2c78539199% 2c78512260%2c78512237%2c78339179%2c79006103%2c7900 6042%2c78332015%2c78331702%2c78196960%2c78138546%2 c78057824%2c78047398%2c78006443%2c78006442%2c81412 978%2c77652128%2c77530288%2c77913830%2c77845932%2c 77845920%2c77845878%2c77845844%2c77509119%2c772139 40%2c77089990%2c78106084%2c73860338%2c73860335%2c7 3799620%2c73799618%2c73725676%2c73724688%2c7362649 0%2c73626214%2c73625981%2c73615902%2c73799165%2c73 744099%2c73543840%2c73749430%2c73749428%2c73749414 %2c73749339%2c73539132%2c74158444%2c74158434%2c741 58382%2c74158341%2c74158337%2c73510877%2c73668478% 2c73673346%2c73574993%2c73574989%2c73574973%2c7373 2321%2c73732309%7C0&id=77089990

CapitalsFan
07-13-2008, 07:40 PM
Forgot the proof.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/USABaseball/NewPicture.jpg

tknorm
07-14-2008, 01:39 PM
I think I have a photo-match, though it is not 100%. The action picture is from a game on April 17, 2000. The bat is a 2000 Rawlings, with 00 stamped in the knob. This is the only bat of Cam's that I have seen with this style tape job. There also looks to be similar shading around the silver stripe that looks brown/gold, which is tar or something for grip.

Kong's Landing
07-17-2008, 12:56 PM
Nice Uni Rog, like the gray.

cigarman44
08-02-2008, 01:02 AM
I bought MLB.TV to video match my Ank bat that came in so I finally got to go back and get pics of my Joe Mather bat on May 30.

First bat he ever used in the bigs. Lasted a whole 2 AB's

They were talking about his bats the other night and how his weight to length ratio will probably be banned. He currently uses -3 to -4 weight from length

He's starting to heat up hitting his 5th dinger in 78 AB's

kylehess10
08-10-2008, 05:42 PM
Yet another photomatched piece is added to my collection!


Latroy Hawkins game worn 1998 Twins hat; perfectly photomatched.


The seller ended the auction early for me on eBay and just sold it to me off-site. I was too scared somebody else might see the photomatch and push the price up.



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/hawkinshat1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/72499559.jpg





Not only does the handwriting match perfectly, but also there is a loose stitch which I can match too:



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/hawkinshat.jpg

bubbrubb25
08-10-2008, 08:38 PM
Yet another photomatched piece is added to my collection!


Latroy Hawkins game worn 1998 Twins hat; perfectly photomatched.


The seller ended the auction early for me on eBay and just sold it to me off-site. I was too scared somebody else might see the photomatch and push the price up.



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/hawkinshat1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/72499559.jpg





Not only does the handwriting match perfectly, but also there is a loose stitch which I can match too:



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/hawkinshat.jpg
CRAP and I also matched it and was watching it on ebay, I was really looking forward to getting it :(

kylehess10
08-10-2008, 08:42 PM
CRAP and I also matched it and was watching it on ebay, I was really looking forward to getting it :(


I wonder how many other people also matched it already? When I purchased the hat from the seller, there were only 14 views. Bubbrubb if you don't mind me asking, what was going to be your top-bid on the hat?

dcrules01
08-10-2008, 08:55 PM
Kyle that is an awesome pic you should contact Getty to see how much it would cost to buy..Great match

Picked these up about a month ago photomatched to a photo I took at the game Michael Tucker Game Used tbc Mets pants...

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/metstucker.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/alfonso003.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/alfonso002.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/metsjerseys/alfonso001.jpg

bubbrubb25
08-10-2008, 09:09 PM
I wonder how many other people also matched it already? When I purchased the hat from the seller, there were only 14 views. Bubbrubb if you don't mind me asking, what was going to be your top-bid on the hat?
Prob. like $35 but I need to save my money anyway for a car I just spent like all the money I had saved like you said I would lol.

kylehess10
08-10-2008, 09:59 PM
Prob. like $35 but I need to save my money anyway for a car I just spent like all the money I had saved like you said I would lol.


I was going to spend around the same amount. I asked the seller how much he would close for, and he said $30 + shipping, which I ofcoarse took since that's an amazing price for ANYTHING photomatched.

Fnazxc0114
08-10-2008, 11:14 PM
one of my hamilton photo matches
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jgrogers1978/aprilmay2008139-1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jgrogers1978/4-8-08Bottom1stB1.jpg
the other
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jgrogers1978/guebay034.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jgrogers1978/guebay033.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jgrogers1978/80985732-1.jpg
i need to resize the getty pics to show but the tar and marks line up pretty good

kylehess10
08-11-2008, 01:17 AM
I FINALLY DID IT!!! I photomatched my Willy Taveras World Baseball Classic Jersey!!! I also found tons of other photomatches for other pieces which I will be posting tonight.


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/taveras1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/AP060312015153.jpg

kylehess10
08-11-2008, 01:20 AM
Here's a second photomatch for my Marcus Giles BP jersey. The first photomatch I found is on my site, and is from the regular season. This new photomatch I found is from Spring Training.


The photomatch is the long loose stitch in the "A"



http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/gilesjersey2-medium.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/gilesjersey6.JPG



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/AP060322028436.jpg

kylehess10
08-11-2008, 02:22 AM
I found TONSSSSSS of photomatches for my Felipe Lopez helmet tonight:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/AP060527035376.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC00334.jpg








http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/lopezhelmet1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC00330.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/lopezhelmet2.jpg







http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/lopezhelmet.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/AP060428024644.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/AP060522023732.jpg

kylehess10
09-17-2008, 09:43 AM
Today I photomatched my Scott Thorman game used broken bat. I first found video of him breaking his bat on April 7th, 2007, and it appeared to be the same bat. After looking at other videos from previous games, it seems to be a photomatch. MLB.tv was hard to work with for good screenshots, but I was still able to catch a few matches. I also found one match from April 4th, when he hit a game-winning homerun.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanbat1.jpg

Video Match of the break:

http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV00533.flv




Screen-shot matches:

April 7th, 2007:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanmatch3apr7.jpg

April 5th, 2007:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanmatch2apr5.jpg


April 4th, 2007:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanmatch1apr4.jpg

kylehess10
09-23-2008, 06:15 PM
Well, yet again I have found another photomatch. This time it's for my Edgar Renteria game used broken bat. It first arrived at the Braves Clubhouse Store around mid-season in 2007, and I purchased it around September. I have been looking at every single one of his at-bats for the past week, and I have finally found the video of him breaking it. He broke it during the 1st inning on May 6th, 2007. I went back 1 game and found 2 matches on the bat:


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gameused/renteriabat1.JPG





Here's the video match from May 6th, 2007 (click to view):

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/th_MOV00947.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV00947.flv)




And here's the only matches I could find from the previous game:

There is a loss of paint from the bat weight, and there is a small portion that had a little "hump" taken off, which I believe can be seen in this picture:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/match1.jpg


With the way "11" is written more to the right, PLUS the fact that it lines up with his name on the barrel, I'd consider this a really nice match:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/match2.jpg





Although they didn't show a shot of the bat after he broke it, you can see the splintered handle in the background, which appears to perfectly match the way the bat is broken. The handle piece should get shorter but eventually stop at the very end of the barrel where it broke off, which can be seen here:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/splinter.jpg

kylehess10
10-08-2008, 08:57 PM
I just got this absolutely amazing, and HAMMERED Alex Gonzalez MLB authenticated 2007 bat, PHOTOMATCHED TO OVER 3 HOMERUNS!!! This bat has FOUR MLB Holograms on it (1 for the autograph, 1 for the barrel, and 2 for each broken handle piece). I plan to take the tape off to display it better in pieces:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011582.jpg


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011602.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011622.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011632.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011643.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011752.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011722.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC011712.jpg



The marks on the barrel can be seen from May 3rd through May 8th. He used this bat to hit 3 homeruns, and possibly a 4th from when he used a fresh-looking Old Hickory bat (most-likely this one, but the bat is so brand new in the videos I looked at that no match could be made). Here's some screenshots from random dates he used this bat:


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/May8th3.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/May6th1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/May4th9.jpg



This is video of Gonzalez breaking this bat on May 8th:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/th_MOV00530.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV00530.flv)



..and here is the video of Gonzalez hitting TWO homeruns with this bat in the same game:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/th_MOV00532.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV00532.flv)

kylehess10
10-24-2008, 05:04 PM
Just picked up this absolutely AMAZING game used Matt Kemp bat from this year. It was used and photomatched to the brawl he had on June 3rd, 2008 with Yorvit Torrealba, and he also broke this bat over his knee on June 5th.


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC01476.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC01481.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC01477.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/DSC01490.jpg




Photomatch before the brawl on June 3rd:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/june3rdphotomatch1.jpg


You can see this bat as the brawl occured:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/Untitled3-1.jpg



Here's video of the brawl:


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/th_MattKempYorvitTorrealbaBrawlJune3rd.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MattKempYorvitTorrealbaBrawlJune3rd.flv)




Another photomatch from June 4th:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/June4thPhotomatch.jpg





Kemp breaking this bat over his knee:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/kneebreak.jpg


Video of Kemp breaking this bat over his knee on June 5th:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/th_MattKempBreakingHisBatOverHisKneeOn.jpg (http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MattKempBreakingHisBatOverHisKneeOn.flv)

indyred
10-26-2008, 12:04 PM
Those are some sweet matches Kyle.

camarokids
10-26-2008, 12:29 PM
this is my only 100% photo matched item I have....
Of course I owe a big thank you to the photo match king of GUU (Kyle)!


17713

17714

17715


http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=19555

click on link to view Video that Kyle got for me! thanks again....

gingi79
10-26-2008, 01:47 PM
Photo-matching hockey is much easier as there are no doubts about them.

Trevor Linden Alternate Canucks:


17716

17717

Other photomatches available at:
http://community.webshots.com/user/GinGi79?vhost=community

kingjammy24
11-02-2008, 11:07 AM
Today I photomatched my Scott Thorman game used broken bat. I first found video of him breaking his bat on April 7th, 2007, and it appeared to be the same bat. After looking at other videos from previous games, it seems to be a photomatch. MLB.tv was hard to work with for good screenshots, but I was still able to catch a few matches. I also found one match from April 4th, when he hit a game-winning homerun.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanbat1.jpg

Video Match of the break:

http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/?action=view&current=MOV00533.flv




Screen-shot matches:

April 7th, 2007:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanmatch3apr7.jpg

April 5th, 2007:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanmatch2apr5.jpg


April 4th, 2007:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/thormanmatch1apr4.jpg

kyle,

do you really believe that those images leave absolutely no doubt?

in the last photo, i don't even know what you've circled. that blurry dark area may or may not be that pencil-thin bat rack mark but you couldn't establish a link with any certainty. the first photo with the nick at the top: maybe but the photos are too blurry to establish anything with certainty. how many bats did thornton use that had small nicks at the top? in the second mlb.tv photo, i can't even tell what that mark is. maybe it's a ballmark, maybe it's the MLB logo. who knows. on the photos of your bat, you can definitely tell it's a ballmark and you can clearly see the color and unique shape of it. on the corresponding mlb.tv shot, you can't even be certain what that dark blob is.
some of the mlb.tv shots you use are so blurry that you end up "matching" really vague markings whose only similarity seems to be the general location. there'll be a ballmark or a rack mark and you'll circle some blurry blob on the photo where, to be honest, it's not even certain what that mark is, much less that it's the exact same one.

what happened to the photomatches that really established without a shadow of a doubt that the items were the same? it seems we've now been reduced to matching amorphous, out-of-focus, shapes from 40 feet away which are concluded to be "matches" simply because they exist in roughly the same location as if a ballplayer wouldn't have ballmarks in roughly the same location on many of his bats.

rudy.

kingjammy24
11-02-2008, 11:15 AM
Well, yet again I have found another photomatch.

And here's the only matches I could find from the previous game:

There is a loss of paint from the bat weight, and there is a small portion that had a little "hump" taken off, which I believe can be seen in this picture:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/match1.jpg


With the way "11" is written more to the right, PLUS the fact that it lines up with his name on the barrel, I'd consider this a really nice match:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/match2.jpg



1. on how many of his bats did renteria likely use a batting donut?
2. on how many of those bats would the donut fall into the same place every single time?
3. do batting donuts typically leave impressions after numerous use?
4. on how many of his bats did renteria likely write his number, in silver sharpie, in similar penmanship?

the photos don't do it for me. in the first one, what you've circled isn't the same exact, uniquely-shaped absence of paint. it's, at best, a very blurry and faint smudge. maybe not even that. i'm squinting at it and i still can't tell what it is. maybe it's not even a donut impression. looking at it, it may be a dent. maybe a smear. it's not even clear what the image shows much less that it's undoubtedly the exact same donut impression as seen on your bat. in other words, there's doubt. kyle, you've got a sharp eye but sometimes i feel you're really stretching things. you know what a photomatch is; it leaves absolutely no doubt. it's not 2 vague, blurry, blobs whose only similarly is their approximate placement.

rudy.

kylehess10
11-02-2008, 02:33 PM
kingjammy- I do understand that the screenshots aren't perfect photomatches, but they were the best I could find. I only called them photomatches because they atleast had similairities before I found video of them breaking the bat. I knew for a fact that both bats were used between April - July of 2007. I searched through every at-bat of theirs until I found the same breaks, then I went back a game or two to see if anything looked the same, which is where those matches came from.

For the Thorman, you were right about the last picture. I'm not sure what I was looking at when I first saw the video, but the bat rack mark doesn't look present.

For the Renteria, I considered the second picture a photomatch mainly because the way his number is written lined up with his name on the barrel, along with the fact the number is written just a tad bit more to the right. To find two bats of the same model, from the same year, broken in the same way, written in the same exact position would seem pretty much impossible, which is why I consider the Renteria to be a photomatch. And for the doughnut impression, I compared that by first turning the bat in the opposite direction, since that's the way it is in the screen shot, with the Marucci logo not present. Then I saw that there was a little "lump" of paint missing in that specific spot instead of just a straight line of paint missing, which is how I was matching that. It looks to me like the same little lump in the screenshot

zookerman182
11-02-2008, 02:55 PM
Well i finally have a Brewers bat that is nicely photomatched and here it is. I got the bat from a forum member when i visited Milwuakee for game 3 of the NLDS. I had no idea at the time it could be matched to so many games. The MLB holo database had the bat as being cracked on May 20th vs pitt so i figured since the bat had so much use that it may have been used in games before this. I contacted Kyle Hess (photomatch expert) and asked him if he would compile screen shorts and other pictures. He just e-mailed me the finished matches and video of braun breaking the bat. Here are Braun's numbers while using the bat.

May 13- braun started using bat but its not clear what inning
May 14- 0-4
May 15- braun used 2 bats during this game one being lvs which he broke. He then used this sam bat to hit a solo HR in the 8th inning.
May 17-
Game 1 DH- 3/5 solo HR off Papelbon
Game 2 DH- 0-5
May 18- 2-4, 2HR, 4 RBI
May 20- 2-3 broken bat RBI single in the 5th inning

Overall that i know of- 8-22, 4 HR, 7 RBI

Here are the different photomatches from the games.

May 13th knob match

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/braunknobcomparrison.jpg

May 17 Barrel match

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/barrelmatch.jpg

May 18 ball mark match

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/ballmarkbarrelmatch.jpg

May 17 looks to be knob match

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/braunmay17slightlyvisibleknob.jpg

May 18 looks to be knob match

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/braunslightknob.jpg

May 20 1st inning weight donut marks

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/donutmarks.jpg

weight donut marks

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/zookerman182/PA110049.jpg

A big thank you goes out to Kyle for helping me with this bat and also a big thank you goes out to JR for trading me this bat.

kingjammy24
11-02-2008, 03:35 PM
hey kyle

a photomatch is a photomatch; it leaves no doubts. there aren't varying degrees of matches. if you can't conclusively show it, then it isn't one. we've all been in situations where something was kinda, sorta close and if we squinted really hard and convinced ourselves, then maybe we could call it a photomatch but that's not how it works. anyone who does so is only fooling themselves.

there are some things i want to point out here in the way you're seeing and comparing things. first, the donut ring:

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1668/batwp7.jpg

the image on the left clearly shows paint, chipped off the bat in a very clear and specific pattern. there is no doubt in my mind, in seeing the photo on the left, that the paint has chipped off and i can see exactly how and where. you then look at the picture on the right and say it's a match. kyle, i can't even tell what the hell the thing on the right is. i can't tell any paint has chipped off. i can't even tell it's a donut impression much less what the specific shape of it is in order to say it's the exact same donut impression. i can't see anything except some light smear. it doesn't even look remotely close to the photo on the left. is it even a donut impression? maybe it's just a photographic artifact or remnant. some lint on the lens perhaps. look at the picture on the right and tell me conclusively that definitely it's a donut impression. i think it's a massive leap with no photographic evidence. you were working backwards; you had already decided they were the same bat (via the dates, etc) so to you any barely recognizable blemish (or even completely unrecognizable in this case) simply further justified it all.

here's another one:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7783/bat2ea4.jpg

are these the exact same mark? do the photos leave absolutely no doubt? it may possibly be the same mark but you can't be certain from the photos. the mlb.tv photo simply doesn't have enough detail. they're somewhat similar but somewhat similar isn't enough for a photomatch. it's either exact or it isn't. "kinda, sorta" don't make for a photomatch. they make for "kinda, sorta".

"I considered the second picture a photomatch mainly because the way his number is written lined up with his name on the barrel"

here's the image you provided from mlb.tv. i haven't altered it in any way from what you posted. how can you tell how the number lines up with the name on the barrel from this photo? i can't even see the name on the barrel. are you saying you can?

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8764/bat3pb1.jpg

all i'm saying is that on some things, you nail the photo match. look what a nice job you did on the felipe lopez helmet. perfect:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/408/bat4xe7.jpg

it doesn't leave any doubt does it? the shapes are obviously the same. it's as clear as day. but on others, you make some massive leaps, photomatching fuzzy specs to fuzzy specs. you know what a photomatch is. many of yours are spot on, but some others are just out in left field.
i just don't want to see this whole thing degenerate to the point where we're all so overeager to get a match that we're producing garbage matches, saying, for example, that a clear paint chipped donut impression is indeed the same as that fuzzy, squiggly blob.

rudy.

sylbry
11-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I agree with Rudy that an item is "photomatched" only if the bat, jersey, ect... is clearly and obviously, without a doubt the bat, jersey, ect... shown in the photo.

However one thing to ponder. If you have a bat or so and the authentication states "broken in the 5th inning of the 5/30/08 game," if you find a photo of that player at bat in the 5th inning of the 5/30/08 game, is that a photomatch? Afterall, if the authentication is correct then it should be that bat the player is using in that photo. Even if no distinguishable marks are evident. Or would that photo be considered something else, "authentication-matched" maybe?

eGameUsed
11-02-2008, 06:54 PM
I think there is a lot of good effort here, and many times it pays off to finding a match. I have to admit sometimes I start seeing marks that I think make something a match. Of all the bats I have handled, very few are as good of a match as the 2004 Beltran bat from 8/27/2004 vesus the Chicago Cubs. I just wish I was as talended as Kyle and others to transpose my bat to the image to show the bats right next to each other.

17882

17881

MichaelofSF
12-05-2008, 05:12 PM
Alex Gordon Autographed Negro League Jersey and pants from 6/22/2008. Below are picture of my jersey and pictures of my jersey transposed on top of other pictures of Gordon wearing the jersey. For some reason they washed the jersey, but not the pants. The proof is in the pinstripes
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/3084874223_dcaf481405_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/3084886467_f058209a6a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/3084876567_8e49918b0a_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/3084885175_6df467db7f_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3085722590_1c0380c5e4_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/3084888915_7817ac844a_b.jpg

MichaelofSF
12-05-2008, 05:22 PM
Photomatched Tim Lincecum 2008 Cy Young Game Used Negro League jersey with pants worn 6/22/2008 against the Royals. Below are pictures of my jersey as well as game pictures with pictures of my jersey transposed.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/3084918367_f7edd4d0fb_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3129/3085755808_5da04a9c4e_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/3085751308_66c094fd2b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/3084919913_6bc20b1d72_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/3084914401_b937a421c1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/3085760670_be56a3b75b_b.jpg

kylehess10
12-06-2008, 04:22 PM
Just got this Casey Kotchman game used broken bat direct from the Atlanta Braves. According to the MLB Hologram, this bat was broken on September 16th, 2008. I checked MLB.tv and they showed an amazing slow-motion replay of him breaking the bat. I also photomatched the bat to September 14th in Shea Stadium. I still have more games and more photomatches to find.


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/kotchman4.jpg


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/GIFImageofBrokenBat.gif



September 14th Shea Stadium Photomatches:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/ckphotomatch12.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/kylehess1025/ckphotomatch2.jpg

allstarsplus
12-06-2008, 04:41 PM
Photomatched Tim Lincecum 2008 Cy Young Game Used Negro League jersey with pants worn 6/22/2008 against the Royals. Below are pictures of my jersey as well as game pictures with pictures of my jersey transposed.


Awesome jersey. Congrats!!!