Reds collectors help with 2003 alternate jersey

[justinwc80]

Ok I got this jersey in the recent GUU auctions, its an Adam Dunn 2003 alternate. I've been working on finding pics to match it with. From all the pics of the Reds I can find in these jerseys they didn't have the Reds mascot on their sleeve in 2003. Just the innaugural patch. In 2004 they have Mr Red patches. Can anyone explain how this jersey has both. I'm hoping I'm just missing something.
The Dunn pic is Jul 6 2003. Sliding pic is 2004.

[chakes89]

Does the year tag say "Property Of" above the "Cincinnati Reds-03" tag?

I can't see if it does or not from the picture you provided

[buckeyegamers]

It's difficult to tell from your photos (because there isn't one of the entire jersey) but it appears to me that the 2003 patch is on the right sleeve. I say this because the Mr. Reds patch appears above the Russell "R" logo which is on the left sleeve. Every photo I can find from 2003 shows the 2003 patch on the left sleeve not the right sleeve.

[Dave4Reds]

Not that it counts for much, but even Dunn's 2003 bobbing head with the Sunday alternate jersey only has the 2003 Inaugural patch on the left sleeve. I checked several sources and I can not find one photo with any patch on the Reds right sleeve in 2003.

Is this your jersey? It's the only one I found with patches on both sleeves.

[Neely8]

I own a Dunn alternate from 03 which came from an impeccable source. It only has the GABP patch on the left sleeve and nothing on the right. That is how the jersey should be. I have no idea why yours has the Running Man patch too but I don't think it's supposed to.

[chakes89]

Could this be a forged authentic jersey?

[Neely8]

It should also be noted that the 03 alternate jersey was the first year the Reds wore that style and the Inaugural GABP patch was worn on them in 03, not the Running Man patch. The Running Man patch wasn't worn on the alternates until 04 so I have no idea why it would be even on an 03 tagged jersey.

[justinwc80]

Yeah I'm having to agree, I bought it from the GUU auction, I guess I put more faith into items offered through this site. The funny thing is that the jersey shows pretty good use with puckering and all. And to answer a previous question yes it does say property of on the top of the tag. I'm just so disappointed if this jersey turns out not authentic. Any more ideas or thoughts would be appreciated.

[justinwc80]

Dave4reds
Where did you find that pic? It looks close but its not one of the pics featured in auction, but similar? This is the back pic from auction.

[chakes89]

Could you take a better picture of the GABP patch please?

It looks like it is sewed on crooked in the first picture you have provided

[Dave4Reds]

Justin - this jersey was sold in a Grey Flannel auction. See link below. Is this your jersey or are there two out there like this?

http://www.greyflannelauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=17824

[justinwc80]

Dave,
Thanks for the help, that jersey looks very similar.

I will post more pictures once I'm back home, won't be until after xmas. Thanks everyone for the help, I am always impressed with all the help and knowledge. Anyone seen any combination of patches like this?

[justinwc80]

Well after comparing the patches and the wear I thought it had to be same jersey, but look at the front tails of jersey, I've not seen this type of customization shown on the grey flannel. Anyone know whats going on here, I am lost.
First two pics are mine, second two are grey flannel

[chakes89]

Different Jerseys

Looks like your 2003 patch is crooked

[Neely8]

Just to clarify your pics., you just posted, one patch is yours and the other is Grey Flannel? If so I'd say they are the same jerseys. The GABP patches look exactly the same to me when you match up the loose threads around the edge and missing thread on the bottom part of the C.

[justinwc80]

Neely. That is correct. I will post more pics of sleeves when I get home after Xmas. Does anyone have thoughts on authenticity since pics don't match game pics. Any chance they added Mr Red later and switched innaugural patch.

[justinwc80]

Neely8,
Your PMs are turned off. I saw a previous post where you said you owned a Dunn jersey which seems to match this one. I'm guessing you consigned it, can you offer some insight here?
Thanks,
Justin

[justinwc80]

Neely8 nevermind, not reading the previous posts, can you post pics of your Dunn to compare. Curious to see differences. Thanks

[justinwc80]

Here are some updated pics, I hope someone can help me figure this out

[Dave4Reds]

Justin - since your jersey is almost certainly the same as the one Grey Flannel sold, why don't you contact them and see what they have to say? If they see the pictures posted here, especially the 2003 patch, I think it is indisputable that they are one and the same. Also, go back to where you bought it and ask them where they got it. Good luck.

[Neely8]

Sorry but I haven't been able to take pics. of my 03 Dunn alternate yet.

[justinwc80]

I actually bought it on the last GUU auction, so I'll contact the Administrators and see what they can tell me.