Identifying GU H&B and Rawlings bats

[Birdbats]

I've updated pages on my Web site with information on dating bats (both H&B and Rawlings) since 1980. Feel free to review these pages and let me know if there's anything I need to change in terms of date ranges, specific characteristics or whatever. I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.

Here's the 1980-current H&B page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/LS%201980-Current.htm

Here's the 1980-current Rawlings page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm

[5kRunner]

Thanks Jeff!

I'm always referring to your site. I have it bookmarked at home and at work. Thanks for the update!

[joelsabi]

I've updated pages on my Web site with information on dating bats (both H&B and Rawlings) since 1980. Feel free to review these pages and let me know if there's anything I need to change in terms of date ranges, specific characteristics or whatever. I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.

Here's the 1980-current H&B page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/LS%201980-Current.htm

Here's the 1980-current Rawlings page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm

Thanks Jeff. This is what many of hope to see more of when we visit the website. Very informative and superb work.

[joelsabi]

I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.

Here's the 1980-current H&B page: [URL]

Just curious on my observation. Here is a Thome bat on ebay said to be from 1995. I notice that it says "Made in USA" in small letterings.

here the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jim-Thome-Game-Used-Bat-1995-Cleveland-Indians-Dodgers_W0QQitemZ190362534450QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item2c527dc232

[joelsabi]

the "Made in USA" lettering is also on Tony's (3arod13) 1996 Rawlings bat.

[BMH]

I've updated pages on my Web site with information on dating bats (both H&B and Rawlings) since 1980. Feel free to review these pages and let me know if there's anything I need to change in terms of date ranges, specific characteristics or whatever. I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.

Here's the 1980-current H&B page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/LS%201980-Current.htm

Here's the 1980-current Rawlings page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm

Looks great to me!

[tigerdale]

Jeff,
Thats looks awesome, what a GREAT reference!!! Thank you!!

[Birdbats]

Just curious on my observation. Here is a Thome bat on ebay said to be from 1995. I notice that it says "Made in USA" in small letterings.

here the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jim-Thome-Game-Used-Bat-1995-Cleveland-Indians-Dodgers_W0QQitemZ190362534450QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item2c527dc232

Good catch. Maybe as a group we can figure out when MADE IN USA was added to that centerbrand.

[joelsabi]

Good catch. Maybe as a group we can figure out when MADE IN USA was added to that centerbrand.

1993 thru 1996

[metsbats]

Jeff,

The 87-89 Rawlings center brand started late in 86. The 1986 World Series game bats had the 87-89 center brands on them too.

Here are 5 Rawlings regular season bats with the 87-89 Rawlings center brands which are from 1986

The knobs are stamped as follows:

Stanley Jefferson 225B 389 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
John Gibbons 470B 388 6


Thanks

[Birdbats]

OK, I've changed the Rawlings info -- the 1987-89 section is now the 1986-89 section... and the 1990-96 section now includes a reference to MADE IN USA beginning in 1993. Keep the input coming. Thanks!

[metsbats]

Jeff,

The 87-89 Rawlings center brand started late in 86. The 1986 World Series game bats had the 87-89 center brands on them too.

Here are 5 Rawlings regular season bats with the 87-89 Rawlings center brands which are from 1986

The knobs are stamped as follows:

Stanley Jefferson 225B 389 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
John Gibbons 470B 388 6




Thanks

Forgot the Wilson knob stamping and corrected the Gibbons.

Mookie Wilson 470B 388 6
John Gibbons 460B 388 6

[joelsabi]

1993 thru 1996



photos 1992 willie randolph with no made in usa

photos of three 1993 items with made in usa

1993 Mets Team Signed Bat
1993 Greg Myers Bat
1993 Chili Davis (thanks to Ball Park Heroes for emailing me a better photo of the centerbrand. excellence customer service)

[MRMusial]

Nice job, Jeff. Thanks for taking the time to do that - I reference your page quite a bit.




1993 Mets Team Signed Bat



Joel, is that your Mets bat?


Mike

[joelsabi]

Nice job, Jeff. Thanks for taking the time to do that - I reference your page quite a bit.





Joel, is that your Mets bat?


Mike

no. just a photo from doing some research to benefit us bat collectors.

[MRMusial]

no. just a photo from doing some research to benefit us bat collectors.


Thanks, Joel. If it was yours, I was just going to ask if you had additional photos or if it was available. It looks like a neat bat.


Sorry, Jeff, don't mean to hijack your thread.


Mike

[joelsabi]

jeff,

knob on that mets bat. dont know if you need it

[Birdbats]

Thanks, guys. I cut and pasted a photo of one of the 1993 MADE IN USA labels and uploaded it to the site.

Please keep the information coming. Any thoughts on that 1996-97 AD center brand or the 1997 AD center brand? Those are the ones I'm least sure about. Also, if you have a better photo of either logo, I'd appreciate you sharing it. The ones I'm using now are screen grabs from eBay auctions, so they're not that great.

http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm

[jbsportstuff]

Great site! Any idea how I can get Adirondack shipping records for a particular player? I have a Morgan 71-79 bat that I would love to find out when he ordered this bat. I'm having a REALLY hard time photomatching or even STYLE matching it.

[Birdbats]

Great site! Any idea how I can get Adirondack shipping records for a particular player? I have a Morgan 71-79 bat that I would love to find out when he ordered this bat. I'm having a REALLY hard time photomatching or even STYLE matching it.

Old Adirondack shipping records are very tough to acquire, assuming they exist at all. I wouldn't get my hopes up... but you could always write to Bill Steele at Rawlings and ask him. I'd wait until summer because this is their busiest time of the year. Bill is more likely to respond once production dies down.

[jbsportstuff]

Old Adirondack shipping records are very tough to acquire, assuming they exist at all. I wouldn't get my hopes up... but you could always write to Bill Steele at Rawlings and ask him. I'd wait until summer because this is their busiest time of the year. Bill is more likely to respond once production dies down.
Thank you so much for the advice. I'll do it this summer when production slows down a bit. I'll let you know if I find out anything.

Thanks,

Jeff

[ccmunner]

Hi,
Could someone please tell me a website that has an explanation of different bat manufacturers yearly labeling. I used to have one in my favorites but my computer crashed and I can't remember it. Thanks for your help.

[ccmunner]

Great. Thanks. Does anybody have info on Worth Labeling?

[suave1477]

Boombats.com has a date/labeling period for different manufacturers.

I believe it needs to be updated but sitll some valuable info on there

[ccmunner]

Thanks.

[metsbats]

Great. Thanks. Does anybody have info on Worth Labeling?


I have scans of an article on Worth bats from SCD.

Email me your address and I'll send them out.

David at metsbats86@aol.com