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Birdbats
01-26-2010, 03:00 PM
I've updated pages on my Web site with information on dating bats (both H&B and Rawlings) since 1980. Feel free to review these pages and let me know if there's anything I need to change in terms of date ranges, specific characteristics or whatever. I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.
Here's the 1980-current H&B page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/LS%201980-Current.htm
Here's the 1980-current Rawlings page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm
5kRunner
01-26-2010, 03:17 PM
Thanks Jeff!
I'm always referring to your site. I have it bookmarked at home and at work. Thanks for the update!
joelsabi
01-26-2010, 03:20 PM
I've updated pages on my Web site with information on dating bats (both H&B and Rawlings) since 1980. Feel free to review these pages and let me know if there's anything I need to change in terms of date ranges, specific characteristics or whatever. I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.
Here's the 1980-current H&B page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/LS%201980-Current.htm
Here's the 1980-current Rawlings page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm
Thanks Jeff. This is what many of hope to see more of when we visit the website. Very informative and superb work.
joelsabi
01-26-2010, 04:14 PM
I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.
Here's the 1980-current H&B page: [URL]
Just curious on my observation. Here is a Thome bat on ebay said to be from 1995. I notice that it says "Made in USA" in small letterings.
here the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jim-Thome-Game-Used-Bat-1995-Cleveland-Indians-Dodgers_W0QQitemZ190362534450QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item2c527dc232
joelsabi
01-26-2010, 04:22 PM
the "Made in USA" lettering is also on Tony's (3arod13) 1996 Rawlings bat.
I've updated pages on my Web site with information on dating bats (both H&B and Rawlings) since 1980. Feel free to review these pages and let me know if there's anything I need to change in terms of date ranges, specific characteristics or whatever. I'm especially wanting to know if I have the right information for Rawlings during the 1995-98 era -- I don't have any bats from this era when a few changes were made, so I need to ensure the date ranges are correct. Thanks in advance for your input.
Here's the 1980-current H&B page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/LS%201980-Current.htm
Here's the 1980-current Rawlings page: http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm
Looks great to me!
tigerdale
01-26-2010, 06:44 PM
Jeff,
Thats looks awesome, what a GREAT reference!!! Thank you!!
Birdbats
01-26-2010, 07:45 PM
Just curious on my observation. Here is a Thome bat on ebay said to be from 1995. I notice that it says "Made in USA" in small letterings.
here the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jim-Thome-Game-Used-Bat-1995-Cleveland-Indians-Dodgers_W0QQitemZ190362534450QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item2c527dc232
Good catch. Maybe as a group we can figure out when MADE IN USA was added to that centerbrand.
joelsabi
01-26-2010, 08:31 PM
Good catch. Maybe as a group we can figure out when MADE IN USA was added to that centerbrand.
1993 thru 1996
metsbats
01-26-2010, 09:07 PM
Jeff,
The 87-89 Rawlings center brand started late in 86. The 1986 World Series game bats had the 87-89 center brands on them too.
Here are 5 Rawlings regular season bats with the 87-89 Rawlings center brands which are from 1986
The knobs are stamped as follows:
Stanley Jefferson 225B 389 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
John Gibbons 470B 388 6
Thanks
Birdbats
01-26-2010, 09:35 PM
OK, I've changed the Rawlings info -- the 1987-89 section is now the 1986-89 section... and the 1990-96 section now includes a reference to MADE IN USA beginning in 1993. Keep the input coming. Thanks!
metsbats
01-26-2010, 09:37 PM
Jeff,
The 87-89 Rawlings center brand started late in 86. The 1986 World Series game bats had the 87-89 center brands on them too.
Here are 5 Rawlings regular season bats with the 87-89 Rawlings center brands which are from 1986
The knobs are stamped as follows:
Stanley Jefferson 225B 389 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
Ed Hearn 460B 388 6
John Gibbons 470B 388 6
Thanks
Forgot the Wilson knob stamping and corrected the Gibbons.
Mookie Wilson 470B 388 6
John Gibbons 460B 388 6
joelsabi
01-27-2010, 11:29 AM
1993 thru 1996
photos 1992 willie randolph with no made in usa
photos of three 1993 items with made in usa
1993 Mets Team Signed Bat
1993 Greg Myers Bat
1993 Chili Davis (thanks to Ball Park Heroes for emailing me a better photo of the centerbrand. excellence customer service)
MRMusial
01-27-2010, 11:25 PM
Nice job, Jeff. Thanks for taking the time to do that - I reference your page quite a bit.
1993 Mets Team Signed Bat
Joel, is that your Mets bat?
Mike
joelsabi
01-27-2010, 11:35 PM
Nice job, Jeff. Thanks for taking the time to do that - I reference your page quite a bit.
Joel, is that your Mets bat?
Mike
no. just a photo from doing some research to benefit us bat collectors.
MRMusial
01-27-2010, 11:54 PM
no. just a photo from doing some research to benefit us bat collectors.
Thanks, Joel. If it was yours, I was just going to ask if you had additional photos or if it was available. It looks like a neat bat.
Sorry, Jeff, don't mean to hijack your thread.
Mike
joelsabi
01-28-2010, 12:13 AM
jeff,
knob on that mets bat. dont know if you need it
Birdbats
01-28-2010, 09:57 AM
Thanks, guys. I cut and pasted a photo of one of the 1993 MADE IN USA labels and uploaded it to the site.
Please keep the information coming. Any thoughts on that 1996-97 AD center brand or the 1997 AD center brand? Those are the ones I'm least sure about. Also, if you have a better photo of either logo, I'd appreciate you sharing it. The ones I'm using now are screen grabs from eBay auctions, so they're not that great.
http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats/Bat%20ID/AD%201980-Current.htm
jbsportstuff
01-28-2010, 10:34 AM
Great site! Any idea how I can get Adirondack shipping records for a particular player? I have a Morgan 71-79 bat that I would love to find out when he ordered this bat. I'm having a REALLY hard time photomatching or even STYLE matching it.
Birdbats
01-28-2010, 12:13 PM
Great site! Any idea how I can get Adirondack shipping records for a particular player? I have a Morgan 71-79 bat that I would love to find out when he ordered this bat. I'm having a REALLY hard time photomatching or even STYLE matching it.
Old Adirondack shipping records are very tough to acquire, assuming they exist at all. I wouldn't get my hopes up... but you could always write to Bill Steele at Rawlings and ask him. I'd wait until summer because this is their busiest time of the year. Bill is more likely to respond once production dies down.
jbsportstuff
01-28-2010, 01:36 PM
Old Adirondack shipping records are very tough to acquire, assuming they exist at all. I wouldn't get my hopes up... but you could always write to Bill Steele at Rawlings and ask him. I'd wait until summer because this is their busiest time of the year. Bill is more likely to respond once production dies down.
Thank you so much for the advice. I'll do it this summer when production slows down a bit. I'll let you know if I find out anything.
Thanks,
Jeff
ccmunner
10-06-2010, 09:42 AM
Hi,
Could someone please tell me a website that has an explanation of different bat manufacturers yearly labeling. I used to have one in my favorites but my computer crashed and I can't remember it. Thanks for your help.
ccmunner
10-06-2010, 10:02 AM
Great. Thanks. Does anybody have info on Worth Labeling?
suave1477
10-06-2010, 10:13 AM
Boombats.com has a date/labeling period for different manufacturers.
I believe it needs to be updated but sitll some valuable info on there
ccmunner
10-06-2010, 10:17 AM
Thanks.
metsbats
10-06-2010, 12:20 PM
Great. Thanks. Does anybody have info on Worth Labeling?
I have scans of an article on Worth bats from SCD.
Email me your address and I'll send them out.
David at metsbats86@aol.com
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