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  • postermen
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 7

    Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

    I am 99% sure this auction is a fake:



    I would appreciate it if someone could confirm. I am pretty sure the numbers should be bigger, and that there should be a year on the tag, and that Champion didn't make game jerseys for the Seahawks in the 70's/80's.
  • sox83cubs84
    Banned
    • Apr 2009
    • 8902

    #2
    Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

    I haven't been able to find a clear-cut shot of the smaller front numbers, but Champion did make some early Seaahawks jereys with no year tags. The year tagging didn't begin until Sand-Knit took over the Seahawks supplying of uniforms, which was in or around 1983. More input is needed, as I can't conclusively call this one.

    Dave M.
    Chicago area

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    • postermen
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 7

      #3
      Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

      Originally posted by sox83cubs84
      I haven't been able to find a clear-cut shot of the smaller front numbers, but Champion did make some early Seaahawks jereys with no year tags. The year tagging didn't begin until Sand-Knit took over the Seahawks supplying of uniforms, which was in or around 1983. More input is needed, as I can't conclusively call this one.

      Dave M.
      Chicago area

      Here is a '78 with the year tags:

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      • postermen
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 7

        #4
        Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

        And an '81:

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        • princip
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 192

          #5
          Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

          Getting right down to the nitty gritty details, the white gap between the green and blue shoulder sleeve stripes seems a little tight compared to anything I've seen Zorn wear in the early 80s. Also, the numbers look a little smaller, front & back. Maybe, just the picture perspective though?

          I'm not really the jersey expert, however, I would not spend big bucks on an early Seahawks jersey unless it has the Powers, Bill Hatch, or, Athletic Supply tags on them.




          www.greenxoblue.com

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          • princip
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 192

            #6
            Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

            Zorn did actually wear something that looks more like this Champion jersey in '82. The numbers seem just about the same size as the jersey in that auction. So........

            www.greenxoblue.com

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            • princip
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 192

              #7
              Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

              Another good shot of Zorn in 1982, and what could be that Champion jersey?

              www.greenxoblue.com

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              • MiLe HigH
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 348

                #8
                Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                HBlakewolf is a member here maybe he could shed some light on this?

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                • princip
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 192

                  #9
                  Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                  Also, one last thing. Zorn liked to alter his jerseys by adding material to loosen the throwing arm sleeve a bit(see pic.). I'm quite positive he did this in '82.

                  www.greenxoblue.com

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                  • princip
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 192

                    #10
                    Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                    Originally posted by princip
                    Also, one last thing. Zorn liked to alter his jerseys by adding material to loosen the throwing arm sleeve a bit(see pic.). I'm quite positive he did this in '82.

                    Actually, correcting myself, it doesn't look like he did this in '82.

                    www.greenxoblue.com

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                    • flaco1801
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 590

                      #11
                      Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                      and you wonder why the old posters with the most knowledge left this site?

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                      • jetersbatboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1903

                        #12
                        Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                        Originally posted by postermen
                        I am 99% sure this auction is a fake:



                        I would appreciate it if someone could confirm. I am pretty sure the numbers should be bigger, and that there should be a year on the tag, and that Champion didn't make game jerseys for the Seahawks in the 70's/80's.
                        Did you ask the seller about the jersey before you posted, and gave the seller 24 hours to reply?

                        If not this post should be deleted!

                        Originally posted by MiLe HigH
                        HBlakewolf is a member here maybe he could shed some light on this?
                        Is this Howards jersey? If it is, I dont see what light needs to be shed!!
                        Originally posted by flaco1801
                        and you wonder why the old posters with the most knowledge left this site?
                        Its no wonder, THIS IS WHY!!!!!

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                        • princip
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 192

                          #13
                          Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                          Originally posted by jetersbatboy
                          Did you ask the seller about the jersey before you posted, and gave the seller 24 hours to reply?

                          If not this post should be deleted!



                          Is this Howards jersey? If it is, I dont see what light needs to be shed!!


                          Its no wonder, THIS IS WHY!!!!!
                          I'm not sure what you're trying to say here? I believe this discussion helps validate Howard's jersey, as well as, helps shed some light on Zorn jersey's, for that time period, in general. This post shouldn't be deleted because that's the whole point of this forum; 'Auction Item Discussion'.

                          The original poster had valid points to be skeptical, thus, showing some pictures to help ID it helps us all. What am I missing, er what's the big deal?
                          www.greenxoblue.com

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                          • postermen
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 7

                            #14
                            Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                            The seller has had over 96 hrs to reply and hasn't. Anyone can fake a letter. Or switch an authenticated jersey with a fake one.

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                            • postermen
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 7

                              #15
                              Re: Fake Jim Zorn jersey?

                              One other thing about the auction is that the letter mentions "shirts". Since I am not really into the game used scene, is that a normal word for "jersey"?

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