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nickacs
03-19-2010, 05:37 PM
Hi everyone-
I was curious on people's thoughts on this one. I have come across an ARod 2007 jersey with #10 Rizzuto band and was trying to photomatch it since there were only 21 home games played between Aug 14- Oct 8 (ALDS w/ Cleveland).

So, I started working backwards on the dates starting with the Oct 8th game and looks like front/back match 100%, to me??? I've never owned a home Yankee jersey before, but hear that no two pinstriped jerseys are the same??
The only question I have is on the back, the pinstripes look like they match when looking around the '13', but the stripes don't match going up to the MLB logo along the back of the neck?????

Does this make sense? Has this happened to anyone else where all the pinstripes look to match around the front 'NY' logo and back numerals, but not with the MLB logo? To me, I guess it's not a match.

I've combed all the photo sites (Gettys/AP/Corbis/US Press/Icon) and not too many have back shots of ARod to tell the other home games in that timeframe.

Here's the pics and with Getty's from 10/8 that seems to photomatch, minus the MLB logo on the back neck?


https://docs.google.com/File?id=dhcs5s4z_99mq39zxfx_b



https://docs.google.com/File?id=dhcs5s4z_100gbs3ppck_b



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http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/97227062.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F5529F5AD99A5BD555 CE5B5043E3243E0CD7C321D149D825D3

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/77231233.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921E86F5CE8BE5D78FBAF9A729A60201FF0 38FC21C86C57405FCA49524C311DF17F

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nickacs
03-19-2010, 05:45 PM
Sorry, I don't have any software to blow up the 2nd Getty's pic of his back, but if you look closely, the pinstripe to the right of the MLB logo looks like it touches the right side of the logo, while the photo jersey shows the pinstripe a couple mm away from it, leaving more white space.

If anyone can blow up the pic, that would be great! :)

joelsabi
03-19-2010, 09:52 PM
So, I started working backwards on the dates starting with the Oct 8th game and looks like front/back match 100%, to me??? I've never owned a home Yankee jersey before, but hear that no two pinstriped jerseys are the same??


You might want to check out the photomatching by scott from this thread. You will need to read his PDF files.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=29084

Here's a source talking about a photomatched pinstripe too. It talks about contact points at the seams, buttons and crest.

http://books.google.com/books?id=_ZZxXG89PAIC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=%22in+fact+all+pinstripe+uniforms,+are+unique%2 2&source=bl&ots=A5L6wdTDUM&sig=X3NdObAhl9hd8D9_SS3BO5thDNA&hl=en&ei=8TivSo-uIIb0sgOu2rDHCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

nickacs
03-20-2010, 09:28 AM
Thanks Joel.. very informative :)

Also, just another general question about this or any other "superstar" jersey in the last several years, wouldn't there usually be a MLB hologram# accompanying it? I know of a Jeter one offered several times by an Ebay user that has a home one with Steiner & MLB holgrams that pinpoints the exact games it was used. So, if this one is in the same 8/14-10/8 timeframe and it's a superstar like ARod, I guess I would assume there might be one?

I don't know as I don't collect baseball uniforms, so maybe there isn't always a MLB authenticator at every game, but seems logical for this superstar.
If anyone can shed any light on this aspect too, I would be extremely grateful.

Thanks!

suave1477
03-20-2010, 11:22 AM
MLB doesnt authenticate by popularity of a baseball player.

It goes by when they are on hand, they will authenticate for Steiner, given that steiner contracts the MLB authenticators to do so.

So that is why during some time periods you will find some Steiner jerseys authenticated while others are not.

Metsfan808
03-20-2010, 11:47 AM
The 13 on the back does not match up. Look at the #1, on the left side the pinstripe goes through the number in the ARod pictures, on the jersey you have it is at the very left of the number.

suave1477
03-20-2010, 03:42 PM
The Picture of Alex Rodriguez walking in the dugout dropping the cup doesn't seem to be a match.


BUT.............

That doesn't mean it isn't!!!

First of all I am not sure if many people realize GettyImages is not a 100%. That particular picture could of been from a different game and misdated. It does happen a lot with Getty. If you have to do an absolute thorough search through getty don't just search AROD do searches of "Yankee" through that time period of games. You will be surprised how many more shots you might find showing AROD. Getty has multiple pictures misdated or mislabeled. You have to check a few.
Example - I did a search for Enrique Wilson from the Yankees in all the pictures there were 3 in there of Gary Sheffield mislabeled as Enrique Wilson.

Also remember it could be possible if that picture is from that exact game AROD could of changed Jerseys between innings who knows????? It does happen.

nickacs
03-21-2010, 07:25 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies, information and help. I've gotten the results I need.
BIG thanks to Kyle Hess for his expertise help :)