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ryu33
04-11-2010, 04:39 AM
I GOT MIGUEL CABRERA USED AUTO HELMET.
BUT HELMET NUMBER IS NONE.What do you guys think?

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/7a/6a/e55fae92899457789e4abdb0bd08719b.jpg

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/3e/02/5c0f6bdea10aecae331ba1644bb20c84.jpg

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/35/9f/6c835321f2ad2d925a6fa6b257984693.jpg

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/6e/a2/6ad9b16f5e067a6c03f0e278609ce628.jpg

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/16/6f/fd10757fdc62f9357480a36ad3c84ebe.jpg

tigerdale
04-11-2010, 07:51 AM
The hologram looks to be authenticating the signature, not the helmet itself..I don't know much about how the marlins label their helmets.

Lokee
04-11-2010, 11:44 AM
In my own opinion that is a SIGNED Cabrera as per the MLB Authentication sticker information. There should be a number directly above the MLB symbol on the back. I guess it could have been removed.

spartakid
04-11-2010, 11:58 AM
It appears to be an authentic Marlins helmet. As people have said, the holo is for the signature. My guess is that the helmets were disposed of or recycled and someone got Cabrera to sign one. Odds are good he didn't use it. I remember seeing a Hanley helmet similar to this one with the mlb holo and signature on the bill without a number on the back. Any connection?

ryu33
04-11-2010, 06:11 PM
thank you,tigerdale,lokee,spartakid
cabrera not used ?oh,my god!!
I got it auction is mlb auction.
auction title ''marlins charity auction - miguel cabrera autographed game used helmet''

I believed title・・・:( :( If I had known cabrera not used helmet, I wouldn't get it....

tigerdale
04-11-2010, 06:58 PM
I'm not saying it wasn't used by him, but not saying it was either. Its one of those things where it could be game used...but by who? Maybe if another forum member has a Cabrera helmet, they could check the size & see if it matches yours...thats a start.....

Lokee
04-11-2010, 09:51 PM
And my post was my own opinion.

Here is a Tigers one that MLB auctions sold

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=101802449&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=102149159

LastingsMilledge85
04-11-2010, 10:39 PM
And my post was my own opinion.

Here is a Tigers one that MLB auctions sold

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=101802449&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=102149159

Seeing that helmet really concerns me as no one on the Tigers wore the old style helmets in 2008. The last years they wore them was 2006 as they switched as a team to the coolflo helmets in 2007.

tigerdale
04-12-2010, 05:39 AM
Seeing that helmet really concerns me as no one on the Tigers wore the old style helmets in 2008. The last years they wore them was 2006 as they switched as a team to the coolflo helmets in 2007.
Yes, I agree w/ this too.......

ryu33
04-12-2010, 05:39 AM
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/0d/41/c3d97ce128c438b1399dafaa8ad2b3d7.jpg

gettyimages hanley ramirez
this helmet is looks like none number.
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/6e/b5/fc8bd9ece01d3cbbeb24cff0c11ed26e.jpg

gameused
04-12-2010, 02:25 PM
Did some digging and found a photo of Miguel Cabrera from a game on June 16, 2007......notice the front sticker on the helmet, the tip of the Marlin fin is not in the same location as your signed helmet. Dan Uggla has his number on the back of his helmet.

Also, found two late season photos from Sept. 11 & 12, 2007 and Cabrera's number 24 is present on the back of his helmet.

My gut feeling is that this helmet was not worn by Cabrera and MLB is only authenticating the autograph.

Hope this helps......Bobby

ryu33
04-13-2010, 04:32 AM
thank you gameused.


Mail was sent to MLB.COM AUCTION yesterday.

"""REALLY MIGUEL CABRERA USED HELMET?
HELMET NUMBER IS NONE..."""

MLB.COM.AUCTION ANSWER...

"""Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us.

The helmet is real.

Best Regards,
RP, MLB.com Auctions """


MAY I believe answer of mlb.com.auction???
How do you guys think?

tigerdale
04-13-2010, 10:38 AM
well, I think the helmet is real, a real used helmet....actually signed by Miguel. The question is did he use it or someone else....I don't know. Maybe instead of contacting MLB, try contacting the Marlins & see if someone there could give you any insite from that signing.

joelsabi
04-13-2010, 11:53 AM
well, I think the helmet is real, a real used helmet....actually signed by Miguel. The question is did he use it or someone else....I don't know. Maybe instead of contacting MLB, try contacting the Marlins & see if someone there could give you any insite from that signing.

Based on MLB's vague response, I agree with the assessment. There were other Cabrera items signed too on this session. The bat would be interesting to see since it mentions his number in the comment section. Would be interesting to know who had the signing session, who the actual dealer who paid for the autograph session. There are over 200 signed Marlins items over a two day period. 693041-693242. Can some of these 200 items be game used? Yes but that is not what MLB is guaranteeing.

Ryu33, why did you not specify what you were questioning about the helmet to MLB? Don't make it a yes or no type question or you get an a short response like what you got. If you paid good money for it, I think you are entitled to know what you specifically bought.

joelsabi
04-13-2010, 12:15 PM
Seeing that helmet really concerns me as no one on the Tigers wore the old style helmets in 2008. The last years they wore them was 2006 as they switched as a team to the coolflo helmets in 2007.

If this helps with photo/video searching, this was in the Description of the Charity Auction: Is the wording saying both helmet and lineupcard were used on April 15. 2005?

Place a bid on a Miguel Cabrera autographed game used helmet along with a 2005 line up card from his April 19, 2005 start when the Marlins faced the Nationals, autographed by former Marlins manager Jack McKeon. Cabrera started his major league career with the Fish in 2003.


Images of Cabrera from around that date.
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?query=z.i.H4sIAAAAAAAEAO29B2AcSZYlJi9t ynt_SvVK1-B0oQiAYBMk2JBAEOzBiM3mkuwdaUcjKasqgcplVmVdZhZAzO2d vPfee--999577733ujudTif33_8_XGZkAWz2zkrayZ4hgKrIHz9-fB8_In7dfLn91etf49f4NX6PX_dskV3kvyb9-pj-_5suiot1XqbTbFLndZb-miN882v8Br_G8PNrmp9JXVXty6zOFs2vrZ_9Wvj_7g5-_d1N-98M__xG9P9f793r6-b0nYHxa3p_87vZufn119TfAe7Xzs6ntkv_D_T5a-5wj4vWvel-_3WocWm_sH_hvV-X_qgXFmz456-Pj3bx16_Hn08sjM7f_Np5CMX-yVB2LJTzDhT3N79Wh1Dsnwxlz0KpO1Dc30SZ3LzEfzB5fg0l0y 4-_Q3N178x_gHhiCb5ynz6awZ__dr5pLHfmD-Y2LnDwfv918pdc-_3X7tZrezn-MPg-FvZFy-n7kX3-69T1R6r2L_4q0nuf2X-wvNrz66W5vdf0_zx6-KdZu2NJ_jr184zh4H_B_2-8r-wf_y6TQAt_PPXmebv3GvBX7_2u2fPHSvTH_aLrPbQ9v74jZppt cqfrJez0qNv8KkB-OOA82DnPn7_dYi91rZ58BexhhMW_49f70V-lTet_vh_ADOmm7AwBAAA&sx=AllEditorial#35


auction listing: http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=115900166&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=116246876

LastingsMilledge85
04-13-2010, 03:31 PM
I was talking about te Tigers helmet, as there's no way hr wre that helmet because that style didn't exist on the Tigers during his tenure with than. The same would go for that Marlins helmet as tere is no way he wore that helmet in 2005 or 2006. If he actually wore that Marlins helmet it would have had to have been from 2007. Maybe I should become an equipment manager :D

ryu33
04-13-2010, 10:02 PM
THANK YOU! tigerdale,joelsabi,LastingsMilledge85.

Certainly Mlb's vague response....

I try e-mailing the Marlins from official site.
keyword is """Who used helmet?"""

LastingsMilledge85
04-13-2010, 11:17 PM
I want to say that your helmet was not used and signed, but there are a lot of marks making it look used which would be very odd to take some guys GU helmet (not Cabrera's) and have Cabrera sign it. What really intrigues me though is the Tiger's helmet on MLB Auctions. There's no way he wore it, and it states that he did.

tigerdale
04-14-2010, 05:56 AM
I agree w/ the tiger helmet statement. I remember when that went up for auction, that was the first thing I thought.

ryu33
04-16-2010, 08:40 AM
I try contacting the Marlins

this helmet was worn by cabrera,ok?

Marlins answer :Yes,that is a game-used Miguel Cabrera autographed helmet.

YES!YES!YES!:D :D :D

nycpropain
04-16-2010, 09:33 AM
I try contacting the Marlins

this helmet was worn by cabrera,ok?

Marlins answer :Yes,that is a game-used Miguel Cabrera autographed helmet.

YES!YES!YES!:D :D :D

you better get something in writing cause thats not really worth anything them "saying" it. You need something in writing or the mlb holo to be changed.

ryu33
05-11-2010, 10:49 AM
I got coa from Marlins.:)
"miguel cabrera gameused autographed helmet"

Thank you.
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ryu33
Always looking for canseco & andruw jones used helmet.