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earlywynnfan
07-10-2006, 11:17 PM
OK, this is a past auction item, but did anyone notice the hammer price on the BATS book by Malta, Specht, etc? Here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item=200004114036&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

cjmedina1
07-11-2006, 01:22 AM
A few years ago I paid 140.00.But I did not care it was worth every penny for me.:D

bat_master
07-11-2006, 08:43 AM
Hi Ken,
I noticed. I was the high bidder with 15 seconds left. I refreshed until there was 6 seconds left at which time I noticed I was outbid. I hit the "place another bid" button and to my horror ebay had decided I needed to re-login. :mad:

Needless to say, I was not a happy camper. I also didn't think that price was all that bad since there is only one other copy on ebay with a BIN of $249.99. To me, $115-$120 would have been a relative bargain.

Tim Byington
www.tjsportsmn.com (http://www.tjsportsmn.com)

MSpecht
07-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Hi all--

I sure wish I still had a case or two in my garage... These books are difficult to find -- the last one I got for a friend I found on Amazon from a woman who had gotten it from the San Francisco Public Library Book Sale two or three years ago (they probably had gotten it as a donation from Vince Malta back when it was first published in 1995.) She had paid $3.00 for it and sold it to me for $40.00.

As far as i know there are three remaining MINT copies, my personal copy which has been autographed by Tony Gwynn on the cover, and two copies that I gave to each of my daughters, who will likely put them on Ebay when they head to college. I believe Vince, Bill Riddell, and Ronnie Fox each probably have a personal copy as well.

For those of you unfamiliar with the book, here is a look at the contents (from an old advertisement) should you ever come across a copy and wonder what it's all about:


BATS
HILLERICH & BRADSBY and ADIRONDACK
1950-1994


BATS, the ultimate guide to collecting Game Used Professional Model Baseball Bats. This reference and price guide set the standard for the bat collecting hobby, and is the most highly sought-after book in the hobby today. This 204 - page guide was written by nationally recognized bat authorities VINCE MALTA, BILL RIDDELL, MIKE SPECHT, and RON FOX. Other highly regarded bat collecting experts who contributed to this invaluable reference book include DAVE BUSHING, ZANE BURNS, JOHN TAUBE, STANLEY KESSELMAN, STEVE TERMAN, and MICHAEL MONTBRIAND. This guide was originally published in 1995, and made its debut at the National Sports Collectors' Convention in St. Louis, Missori that summer. This limited edition, written specifically for the bat collecting hobby, has been out-of-print and virtually unobtainable for the past six years.



This reference book is the ultimate guide to collecting Game Used Professional Model Baseball Bats. Easy-to-read charts for 129 individual players, including 51 Hall of Famers, show the model numbers, lengths, and weights used by each player during each of the specific Hillerich & Bradsby and Adirondack labeling periods during the player's career, and includes the scarcity and relative value of each bat.


They are all here, from Aaron to Mantle to Yaz, and Adcock to Hodges to Yost, plus everyone in between !!! Did Pete Rose use a Model S222 during the Bicentennial year of 1976 ? What Model of Louisville Slugger did Mickey Mantle order most frequently during his career ? Did Brooks Robinson really use over 15 different H & B Models during his career ? The answers are all in this guide !!!



BATS also contains over 105 detailed photographs to clearly show the differences between 13 distinct Hillerich & Bradsby, and 10 distinct Adirondack, labeling periods between 1950 and 1994. With this reference guide you will be able to look at a bat (or photo of a bat on Ebay) and immediately tell if it is a Professional Model and in what labeling period it was manufactured.



In addition to the individual players' charts and the precise examination of each H & B and Adirondack labeling period, this book contains information on The Meaning of Game Used; Characteristics of Game Used Bats; How To Acquire Game Used Bats; Identification of All-Star and World Series Bats; and much, much more !!! With this guide you will know more about Game Used Professional Model Baseball Bats than most sellers you will encounter at shows or on auction sites. This guide is equally valuable for the novice collector (What is an Anaconda-Kaye bat?) and the veteran collector alike (What Model Louisville Slugger did Duke Snider use following his trade to the San Francisco Giants in 1964 ?).


Someone had a great line on this forum a year or two ago when people were discussing previous sales of this book on Ebay -- "little did I know that the book I bought back in 1995 for $20.oo would increase in value over the years more than some of my bats!"


Happy Hunting.


Mike


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metsbats
07-11-2006, 05:51 PM
Mike,

I brought my copy in 1995 from Vince for $25 which included shipping. It's been used so much that the pages are falling off the binder. If Mears graded this book it would be an A10!

When we moved back in 2001 into our house I went ballistic because my wife thought she tossed my BATS book out while cleaning up to pack. I went on ebay to replace it and they were going for $150+ if you can find one. Fortunately for me, the book was just actually packed in a box which we never unpacked after the move :)

This book has been a invaluable reference guide!

-David

earlywynnfan
07-12-2006, 01:11 AM
I got mine for $25 postpaid, too, and I remember thinking "what am I doing?" I paid $25 for a book to help me determine the legitimacy of my bats, and none were worth 100 bucks at the time! Little did I know how much I would use it, and I still use it today.

I was lucky, too. I got one of the very last copies; I remember it took forever to recieve, and when I called to ask why, I was told that they were sold out, but had found a copy buried somewhere and were sending it to me.

Ken

stkmtimo
07-12-2006, 09:31 AM
I too have a copy, and while I'm not as big of a bat collector as many as many of you guys are, it is an invaluable reference tool. I got it last year on Amazon.com for around $100 (which seems like a bargain these days!) It's a great reference tool!

Tim

eGameUsed
07-12-2006, 11:13 AM
I have 2 extra copies that I will sell for $75 shipped. One per person! I am on a business trip until the weekend but will ship with Paypal.com payment.

Thanks

DGRROSEN
07-12-2006, 12:42 PM
Here are 2 other "BATS" books for sale online. I sure am glad I bought my copy when the book was initially realeased.

1. http://www.abebooks.com/images/servlets/shared/search/no-image.gif Bats: Professional Hillerich & Bradsby and Adirondack, 1950-1994 (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=733834051&searchurl=bx%3Doff%26sts%3Dt%26ds%3D30%26bi%3D0%26 an%3Dmalta%26y%3D6%26tn%3Dbats%26x%3D107%26sortby% 3D2)
Malta, Vince; Ronald Fox, Bill Riddell, and Michael Specht Bookseller: Willis Monie-Books, ABAA (http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=733834051&tab=1&searchurl=bx%3Doff%26sts%3Dt%26ds%3D30%26bi%3D0%26 an%3Dmalta%26y%3D6%26tn%3Dbats%26x%3D107%26sortby% 3D2)
(Cooperstown, NY, U.S.A.)Price: US$ 175.00
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BULBUS
07-12-2006, 01:22 PM
Chris,

I sent you an email. I'll take one of those books if still available.

Thanks,
Chris

finest_collectibles
07-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Chris, Email sent. I'll take one of the books. Thanks, Frank

eGameUsed
07-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Both books sold already! Sorry I didn't get to everyone. I didn't want to make a killing on them, but it was first-come first-served.

Thanks,

suave1477
07-12-2006, 03:33 PM
Just in case anyone missed out oon this one I found it for the reasonable price of $500. and dont forget the shipping lol lol



Bats: Professional Hillerich & Bradsby and Adirondack, 1950-1994 by Vince Malta


Format: Paperback
Book condition: Very Good

Off the Fence Pub , 1995 Trade Paper. Very Good. Out of Print.



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mr.miracle
07-12-2006, 03:56 PM
Suave:

Thanks for pointing that one out. If anyone has one they want to sell for $1000 count me in. :rolleyes: I know this book is rare but what are we buying here a 15th century Gutenburg Bible?

Brett

sportscentury
07-12-2006, 04:06 PM
On the old forum (before the merger), there was a thread about the book BATS selling for big $$ on eBay. I think that one sold on eBay for over $200 (but don't quote me). It might seem crazy, but depending on what you're collecting, having this book and a few others can save you thousands. Of course, as the hobby has evolved, what you really need are the player- and team-specific factory records.

I started corresponding with Vince Malta (via email) years ago when I bought my copy of BATS. I think collectors are very hungry for his new book. I don't remember whether his new book is on just L.S. bats or if it includes Adirondack/Rawlings bats, as well, but I imagine that the book will do quite well given that (a) it is written by Vince, (b) bat collecting is at an all time high, with no sign of it dwindling in interest or size, and (c) the original BATS book is hard to come by anymore. The Bushing/Knoll bats book is a wise investment, too (it is only $30 or so).

I have encouraged Denny Esken to write a book on game issued/worn gloves. Glove collecting is much less popular than bat collecting, but I think it could really take off if a comprehensive book on game issued/worn glove collecting were available. As with bats, there are markings and codes by which these gloves can be discerned. But the coding process is a mystery to most collectors, so you still find a lot of folks being tricked on fake gloves.

Thanks for starting this thread, Ken. Interestingly, the BATS book has become a valuable collectible in and of itself.

Reid

Eric
07-12-2006, 05:43 PM
I have encouraged Denny Esken to write a book on game issued/worn gloves. Glove collecting is much less popular than bat collecting, but I think it could really take off if a comprehensive book on game issued/worn glove collecting were available. As with bats, there are markings and codes by which these gloves can be discerned. But the coding process is a mystery to most collectors, so you still find a lot of folks being tricked on fake gloves.

Reid

Good call. Denny is the best and has been nice enough to give me great information about gloves whenever I have asked. I would buy his book in a second.
Eric

sportscentury
07-12-2006, 05:50 PM
Reid

Good call. Denny is the best and has been nice enough to give me great information about gloves whenever I have asked. I would buy his book in a second.
Eric

Eric,

Absolutely. Denny is a great guy and extremely knowledgeable. I have also encouraged him to do authentications independently. I know a lot of people would love to be able to send their gloves to Denny directly for his inspection and a corresponding evaluative letter. He could make a lot of money, I am sure, doing these things, but my impression is that money doesn't motivate him all that much.

Reid

metsbats
07-12-2006, 11:01 PM
Here's a question for Vince and Mike:

With such a great demand for the BATS books why have you not considered a second edition printing to meet the demand?

Just thought I'd throw that question out there.

-David

Hal Teitelbaum
07-13-2006, 12:36 AM
I have 3 left, one for reference, 1 mint signed by Vince Malta and Bill Riddell that I'm keeping. The third with a little wear on the cover is available for $120.00, postage included. If interested contact me at hal.medex@earthlink.net.

Hal Teitelbaum

89ASMVPBats
04-22-2012, 06:24 AM
I just listed my copy of BATS on ebay if anyone is interested.

Drew

drewgetty@yahoo.com