Tim Hardaway Warriors jersey - need opinions fast!!!

[mmonte4]

hey guys. what do you think of this? At first glance it looks like the real deal to me. What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tim-Hardaway-Authentic-Signed-Game-Used-Jersey-Warriors_W0QQitemZ110006575741QQihZ001QQcategoryZ50135QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ahuff]

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http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=ImagesSearchState%7c0%7c0%7c-1%7c28%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c1%7c%7c%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c2%7c%7chardaway+1991%7c2233391784121335%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0&p=2&tag=1

It has the correct tagging for a jersey of that year. The only thing that I see, is that the "Warriors" may not be slanted to the degree of the one in the photo I found on getty. There were a few more on a Yahoo Image search, and they pretty much showed the same thing.

[suave1477]

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According to the Getty pictures its definitely not to the right slant!!!

Correct me if I am wrong as I am not a big Basketball Jersey collector, but dont usuall Basketball jerseys for year tagging have 2 years listed as that is how the season is?
Doesn't the tags usually say, Example: 90 - 91 0r 91 - 92 / heres a pic of what i mean

[trsent]

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The tagging for the jersey in question is 100% proper for that era. Just because modern jerseys have two years, doesn't mean anyone should question a jersey from the beginning of the 1990s without knowledge of the subject. That is just not fair to the seller of the jersey who may have people question his item because of the question.

The slant issues appear to be from one photo-match of a jersey on Getty Images since only one home photo is available. I believe there is no issues based on a photo that doesn't offer a full view of the jersey from an in-action photo.

Needless to say, if someone asked me if I had an interest in this jersey if I would bid on it, my answer would be a solid "Yes". I will not be bidding on this item, though, because I do not have a customer for it, but I would solidly recommend the item to a Tim Hardaway collector.

[trsent]

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By the way, the photo on Getty Images of Tim Hardaway in a home white jersey is from the 1990-1991 season, the jersey up for auction that was asked for advice about is from the 1991-1992 season.

[sportscentury]

Re: Tim Hardaway Warriors jersey - need opinions fast!!!

According to the Getty pictures its definitely not to the right slant!!!

Correct me if I am wrong as I am not a big Basketball Jersey collector, but dont usuall Basketball jerseys for year tagging have 2 years listed as that is how the season is?
Doesn't the tags usually say, Example: 90 - 91 0r 91 - 92 / heres a pic of what i mean

Joel,

Since Jason is on your ignore list, you may want to remove him from your ignore list (at least temporarily) so that you can view his response. Just trying to help,

Reid

[suave1477]

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Sportscentury I do appreciate your help!!!
Thank you.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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The Getty photo with the white jersey is from January 1990(The 1989-90 season) The Warriors wore MacGregor Sand Knit. The eBay jersey is from 1991-92. I would discourage comparing a photo of a jersey in a frame to photo of a jersey being worn in a game (WARRIORS slant issue). The jersey is good and is a steal for under $300.

[trsent]

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The Getty photo with the white jersey is from January 1990(The 1989-90 season) The Warriors wore MacGregor Sand Knit. The eBay jersey is from 1991-92. I would discourage comparing a photo of a jersey in a frame to photo of a jersey being worn in a game (WARRIORS slant issue). The jersey is good and is a steal for under $300.

Good points above.

Next, Jason was removed from my ignore list about ten days ago.

[ahuff]

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Now that I have had a few more minutes to do some research, I will post the other info I have found. I don't know when Hardaway took over the "C" role. However, I found cards during 1991-92 that showed him with and without the "C" on his shoulder. I don't know if this 1991-92 Upper Deck card will show up, but I think this is great support for the jersey. It shows the less tilted "Warriors" and the "C".

[suave1477]

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ahuff good find!!!

That picture is from the season before which is when the Jersey in question is coming from.

[trsent]

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So, the card helps the jersey in question?

I do not understand. I have not seen a retraction stating that jerseys should have two years on them as this is was an untrue statement.

[ahuff]

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So, the card helps the jersey in question?

I do not understand. I have not seen a retraction stating that jerseys should have two years on them as this is was an untrue statement.

I guess I don't totally understand. Suave1477 said "correct me if I'm wrong". I don't think he ever claimed to be an expert or said it was bogus. It was pointed out that a single year could be on a tag. Personally, I don't think he owes anyone an apology. He never said the jersey was bogus, and just stated his experience with basketball jerseys. I think that is what this board is for. To bounce stuff off one another in order to feel more comfortable with purchases. We aren't all dealers or authenticators, so we just have to speak what we know. He knew most NBA jerseys come with both years on the tagging.

I hope that I don't come across as rude (I'm not trying to be), but I just want to understand. Where do you think the line was crossed that owed an apology?

[trsent]

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So, I can come on the forum and comment about something that I do not know anything about which may lead people to believe an apparently genuine item may not be genuine because I would like to speculate because I want to get involved with as many discussions as I can even if I am not an expert or have any experience in buying/selling or authenticating this style of jersey?

Was that a run on sentence?

[otismalibu]

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So, I can come on the forum and comment about something that I do not know anything about which may lead people to believe an apparently genuine item may not be genuine because I would like to speculate because I want to get involved with as many discussions as I can even if I am not an expert or have any experience in buying/selling or authenticating this style of jersey?

Yep. It's called a message board. For a guy who's had a computer since the 80s, you should know how these work.