What to do in St. Louis?

[Fnazxc0114]

Any ideas my wife and i are meeting the in-laws for a game in St. Louis. Is there anything there i need to do? Any under the radar restaraunts that are realy good?

[CampWest]

I've been to St Louis a few dozen times.

Not the most outstanding or unique food by any means, but Blueberry Hill is always a fun stop for a casual lunch. Thats Chuck Berry's restaurant on The Loop.

[otismalibu]

Enjoy some of the worst drivers to ever get behind the wheel.

[nationals2k9]

Bowling HOF and that arch thingy :)

[CampWest]

Enjoy some of the worst drivers to ever get behind the wheel.

HAAAAAA... So true.

I always like to say, my favorite thing to do in St Louis is survive. My second favorite thing to do in St Louis is either "drive past it or leave and drive back to Kansas City". ;)

[flota89]

Check out Charlie Gitos or Blueberry Hill for food.

[Birdbats]

Enjoy some of the worst drivers to ever get behind the wheel.

I probably should take offense to your comment :), but as someone who has driven in many cities, I'm curious exactly where the good drivers are. Seems most drivers are dolts, regardless of the location. Maybe the lack of highway congestion here just exposes our bad drivers more than those places where it's bumper to bumper and people have less opportunity to display their "skills."

BTW, the Bowling HOF is no longer in the Loo. It moved to Dallas. Big loss, I know. The real tragedy is that the Cardinals HOF Museum was housed in the Bowling HOF building. The Cards' GREAT memorabilia is now packed away, awaiting a new location to be built on the site of the old stadium.

Food is food. St. Louis is known for its Italian restaurants on the Hill, though Charlie Gitto's downtown is good and you don't have to drive down I-44. Al Hrabosky, Ozzie Smith, Jim Edmonds and Mike Shannon all have downtown eateries, each more upscale than the next. The only thing I'd warn against is St. Louis-style pizza. The cheese (provel) tastes like dirty gym socks smell. If you want great pizza, go to Pi.

[joelsabi]

I probably should take offense to your comment :), but as someone who has driven in many cities, I'm curious exactly where the good drivers are. Seems most drivers are dolts, regardless of the location. Maybe the lack of highway congestion here just exposes our bad drivers more than those places where it's bumper to bumper and people have less opportunity to display their "skills."

BTW, the Bowling HOF is no longer in the Loo. It moved to Dallas. Big loss, I know. The real tragedy is that the Cardinals HOF Museum was housed in the Bowling HOF building. The Cards' GREAT memorabilia is now packed away, awaiting a new location to be built on the site of the old stadium.

Food is food. St. Louis is known for its Italian restaurants on the Hill, though Charlie Gitto's downtown is good and you don't have to drive down I-44. Al Hrabosky, Ozzie Smith, Jim Edmonds and Mike Shannon all have downtown eateries, each more upscale than the next. The only thing I'd warn against is St. Louis-style pizza. The cheese (provel) tastes like dirty gym socks smell. If you want great pizza, go to Pi.


hasnt the Ozzie Smith eatery been closed down?

[otismalibu]

Apologies for the hijack.

Yeah there are bad drivers everywhere, but the STL area is special.

A few of my favorites:

- The merge lane that actually goes directly into the traffic lane, leaving sweet FA for transitioning. Couple this with the fact that STL drivers refuse to exceed 25 MPH on a ramp and you've got a recipe for fun.

- Right hand turning lanes. Who needs them? They'd only improve traffic flow. Not a reflection on the drivers, just the brain trust in charge.

- What? I can make a left on a solid green? Ok, but I won't pull out into the intersection. I'll wait behind the line and then when I think there might be enough time, I'll gun it, drive directly at the oncoming traffic for 50 feet then crank it to the left. This one is especially amusing in the winter, when the roads are slippery.

- If you get the chance, pack a lunch a find a roundabout. These are truly entertaining. I recently pulled up behind 5 cars waiting to enter from my direction, yet there were no lineups at the other 3. Numpties.

- I can solve Rubik's cube faster than the locals can figure out the order at a 4-way stop. And on more than one occasion, I've seen one car go, and the car directly behind follow.

- The wave game. Someone will simply stop and wave someone into traffic or across their lane. It's intended to be a courteous move, but no one takes into account the other lanes of traffic that may not realize Mr. NiceGuy has called an audible. Crash.

- And finally, the counting game. When the light turns green, start counting. If the first car in line actually starts moving before you hit 3, you may want to pick up some lottery tickets. I would say 4-5 is the local avg.

Enjoy!

[trsent]

Two observations:

1. Drivers in Las Vegas are worse. There they take people from every part of the world, dump them in the desert and you have to prey for your life every time you hit the road.

2. The Fried Ravioli at Big Daddy's at The Landings is pretty darn good.

[sox83cubs84]

I If you want great pizza, go to Pi.


And...if you want the BEST pizza in the world...come to Chicago!:D

Dave Miedema

[mariner_gamers]

I have worked off and on in St Louis over the last 6 years. The Hill is where we always head for something special to eat.

Mama Campisi's
Zia's
Giovanni's
Giancarlos-Watch the owner in the back she can get nasty!!

Finish with Ted Drewes Frozen Custard.

I actually really dig St. Louis style pizza. It truly is about the only place you will find it. Thin cracker style crust loaded with toppings and the snap of fresh Provel!!

[Fnazxc0114]

Were excited we got a suite for aug20 game against giants. Hopefully we won't have to drive much. Where's the hill? Is it a
n area of downtown. Ever eat at grilled chz place from man v food?

[Birdbats]

And...if you want the BEST pizza in the world...come to Chicago!:D

Dave Miedema

I agree wholeheartedly. When I visit Chicago, I make it a point to stop and get a half-baked to take home in a cooler bag.

Regarding Ozzie's, the one at Westport closed last year, but he opened a new one downtown on Washington Avenue in the past few weeks.

Also, while the Cards' HOF/museum is closed, there's still a good baseball exhibit at the Arch about the westward expansion of the game. Worth checking out. Some of the team's artifacts are on display there.

The Hill is a famous neighborhood. Google any of the restaurants that Mariners Gamers listed (all great) and get directions. You might also want to drive down the street where Yogi Berra and Joe Garagiola grew up.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/allstar/2009-07-13-berra-garagiola-st-louis_N.htm

[trsent]

I forgot to mention, the hot dogs at The Cardinals games are the best I have had at a ballpark in my life. Also, if you go to a baseball game, get club level tickets so you can get the cupcakes - the red velvet were amazing.

Also, the $20-$40 limit hold 'em game at Harrah's is usually a loose, beatable game. They only play Wednesday and Fridays.

The new Four Seasons (opened 2.5 years ago) is one of the cheaper Four Seasons in America. They often have specials such as buy 2 nights, get one free. Their spa is small, but usually empty. The Lumière Place casino is the best casino in town.

[sox83cubs84]

Of course, you gotta check out the Gateway Arch. Museums and films on ground floor, and an awesome view from the top. My wife and I have made the trip several times, and consider the top a special location for both of us. The tram ride up can be a bit snug (5 passengers per car), but the only way being at the top is bad is when someone's making a scene up there, such as a crying kid or my mother-in-law 6 years ago, when she threw a tantrum on top because she felt the employees on the bottom didn't offer her enough help.:eek: :eek: :eek:

Dave Miedema

[Fnazxc0114]

Were having everything catered so i imagine ill be able to put down ten dogs. Didnt know there were casino's there so that will be an option to get away from the in-laws. Is the arch a beating? I know i have to go since im going to st. louis, but i might try to take that one in with the wife, and leave the family behind. (young kids)


I forgot to mention, the hot dogs at The Cardinals games are the best I have had at a ballpark in my life. Also, if you go to a baseball game, get club level tickets so you can get the cupcakes - the red velvet were amazing.

Also, the $20-$40 limit hold 'em game at Harrah's is usually a loose, beatable game. They only play Wednesday and Fridays.

The new Four Seasons (opened 2.5 years ago) is one of the cheaper Four Seasons in America. They often have specials such as buy 2 nights, get one free. Their spa is small, but usually empty. The Lumière Place casino is the best casino in town.