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  • Eric
    Senior Member
    • Jan 1970
    • 2848

    Chargers and Rawlings?

    Hey everyone

    I have a Chargers jersey which dates somewhere from 1969-1972. I was wondering if Rawlings manufactured on the field Chargers jerseys during this era.

    Here is a crappy cell phone photo of the tagging
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    Eric
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  • both-teams-played-hard
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 2712

    #2
    Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

    I had and have since sold a pair of game used Chargers pants with the same tagging. I am not sure about the jerseys. That Rawlings tagging is no older than 1971. Eric, can you post photos of the entire shirt?

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    • Eric
      Senior Member
      • Jan 1970
      • 2848

      #3
      Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

      Over on ebay there's a John Hadl Rawlings poster for sale. Does that suggest anything? Did players wear the company they endorsed for?



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      I'll get some pics of my jersey in the next couple of days
      Eric
      Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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      • EndzoneSports
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 206

        #4
        Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

        Originally posted by Eric
        Hey everyone

        I have a Chargers jersey which dates somewhere from 1969-1972. I was wondering if Rawlings manufactured on the field Chargers jerseys during this era.

        Eric
        Eric:

        Per my records, the Chargers were wearing Sand-Knit in 1969, so you should be able to narrow the range somewhat based upon that.

        Best Regards,
        Patrick W. Scoggin
        Endzone Sports Charities
        www.EndzoneSportsCharities.org

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        • Eric
          Senior Member
          • Jan 1970
          • 2848

          #5
          Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

          Hey everyone-

          As promised, here are photos of the John Hadl jersey. Any insight would be appreciated.
          Eric
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          • Eric
            Senior Member
            • Jan 1970
            • 2848

            #6
            Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

            Can anyone tell if the jersey I pictured above is the same as the one in this late 1960s team issued photo on ebay

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            • misteremu
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 174

              #7
              Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

              To me, looks like the sleeve cuffs on the actual jersey are much more narrow than the ones shown in the picture.

              Eric

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              • Eric
                Senior Member
                • Jan 1970
                • 2848

                #8
                Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                The bolts are also a bit different, so maybe it's not that year but hopefully it's one close to it.
                E
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                • both-teams-played-hard
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2712

                  #9
                  Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                  Eric
                  We know from 1965 to 1970, the Chargers used at least 3 jersey makers (Spanjian, Russell and Sand Knit). This would lead one to believe that the Chargers "played the field" and "courted" every Sporting Goods supplier around. I owned a guaranteed 100% legit pair of early 70s Chargers pants with the same Rawlings tag. I am unsure about the jerseys.
                  Does your HADL show any wear consistent with a gamer?
                  ...wear from shoulder pads from the INSIDE (piling, scuffs, etc.)Does it appear there is enough shoulder and underarm room for shoulder pads?
                  I have found photos on corbis with a photo that seems to match the Hadl NOB. The numeral fonts seem to match (although smaller) the Rawlings advertisement you posted. The sleeve cuffs on your shirt seem to small.

                  In my opinion, this is a classic example of a salesman's sample, especially since it is a star player that endorsed Rawlings. Remember my analysis is based on your posted images.
                  GOOD LUCK!

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                  • Eric
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 1970
                    • 2848

                    #10
                    Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                    I am by no means an expert on this type of jersey, but in looking closely at it there seems to be wear in the shoulders. There is definitely a lot of fraying to the numbers.

                    The photos make it look a lot brighter/cleaner than it is. There is no sheen to it, like in the photos I posted.

                    Thanks for your help.

                    I bought it as "game used" from a source I trust fully, and if anyone else has thoughts on it, I'd welcome them.

                    Eric
                    Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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                    • both-teams-played-hard
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2712

                      #11
                      Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                      I'm sure you saw these on corbis...


                      Is that a gold tooth or was Hadl a smoker?

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                      • Eric
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 1970
                        • 2848

                        #12
                        Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                        I am trying to pin down the years the Chargers could have worn Rawlings jerseys to see if this jersey is game worn or a salesman's sample.

                        An authenticator looked at this jersey and said the Chargers only used Rawlings jerseys in 1961 and 1962

                        Can anyone confirm or refute this?

                        Thanks
                        Eric
                        Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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                        • FairMore Sports
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1

                          #13
                          Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                          Eric, That style of Rawlings tag is from the early is from the early 70s (approx 1972 and onward). The late 60s Rawlings tags had a white vertical stripe on the right side with a large black size number in it.
                          Brad
                          FairMore Sports

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                          • Eric
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 1970
                            • 2848

                            #14
                            Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                            Hey everyone

                            I am still looking for info on a John Hadl Chargers Jersey in my collection. I took new pics of it and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on the numbers on my jersey versus the numbers on the street and smith photo below. Any help would be appreciated. Every Chargers pic from the 68-72 era seems to have a different style number.
                            Thanks
                            Eric







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                            • Eric
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 1970
                              • 2848

                              #15
                              Re: Chargers and Rawlings?

                              this from beantown looks like a match to me

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