Gamers with Date Specific Inscription

[joelsabi]

My friend in Japan who collects gloves wanted me to find him a nice CC Sabathia fielder's glove. I came across a Rawling's glove with a embroidered "RIP NB" and the inscription “Game used Opening Day 2009”. I went to the Getty website to pull up a quick photomatch of the glove and realized Sabathia was using a Nike Glove. I thought maybe the inscription was for the wrong year but every photo where Sabathia pitched the season opener he was wearing a Nike glove.

Anyways I thought I would post this example and maybe others can post other examples.

How can you explain away a game used equipment that has a date specific inscription and is not a type of equipment that a player is known to use. Is it the fault of the player who signed with a game specific inscription or the seller for not verifying the game used equipment for that game, or both.

[CampWest]

Sorry Joel...

I have no idea what you are talking about...

He used a very similar glove, possibly that one, on 4/6/2009. That was his first start of the season. Which was the opening day of the 2009 Season..

Check the date on your picture again. But this sure looks to me like a Rawlings...

"BALTIMORE - APRIL 06: C.C. Sabathia #52 of the New York Yankees pitches during the game against the Baltimore Orioles at Camden Yards in Baltimore, Maryland on April 6, 2009. The Orioles defeated the New York Yankees 10-5. (Photo by Mitchell Layton/MLB Photos)"

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Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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10-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290406101)0-1Guthrie (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5370) (1-0) Sabathia (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4553) (0-1) 48,607Wed, Apr 8
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Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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7-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290408101)0-2Uehara (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=30130) (1-0) Wang (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6209) (0-1) Sherrill (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6031) (1) 22,856
Regular Season Schedule/ResultsAPRILOPPONENTRESULTW-LWINLOSSSAVEATTMon, Apr 6
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Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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10-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290406101)0-1Guthrie (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5370) (1-0) Sabathia (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4553) (0-1) 48,607Wed, Apr 8
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[URL="http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles"]Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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7-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290408101)0-2Uehara (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=30130) (1-0) Wang (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6209) (0-1) Sherrill (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6031) (1) 22,856
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/nyy/year/2009/half/1/new-york-yankees


http://home.everestkc.net/wescampbell/PCollection/cc.jpg

[joelsabi]

Sorry Joel...

I have no idea what you are talking about...

He used a very similar glove, possibly that one, on 4/6/2009. That was his first start of the season. Which was the opening day of the 2009 Season..

Check the date on your picture again. But this sure looks to me like a Rawlings...

"BALTIMORE - APRIL 06: C.C. Sabathia #52 of the New York Yankees pitches during the game against the Baltimore Orioles at Camden Yards in Baltimore, Maryland on April 6, 2009. The Orioles defeated the New York Yankees 10-5. (Photo by Mitchell Layton/MLB Photos)"

Regular Season Schedule/ResultsAPRILOPPONENTRESULTW-LWINLOSSSAVEATTMon, Apr 6
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Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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10-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290406101)0-1Guthrie (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5370) (1-0) Sabathia (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4553) (0-1) 48,607Wed, Apr 8
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Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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7-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290408101)0-2Uehara (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=30130) (1-0) Wang (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6209) (0-1) Sherrill (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6031) (1) 22,856
Regular Season Schedule/ResultsAPRILOPPONENTRESULTW-LWINLOSSSAVEATTMon, Apr 6
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Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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10-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290406101)0-1Guthrie (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5370) (1-0) Sabathia (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=4553) (0-1) 48,607Wed, Apr 8
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[URL="http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles"]Baltimore (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles)
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7-5 (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290408101)0-2Uehara (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=30130) (1-0) Wang (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6209) (0-1) Sherrill (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6031) (1) 22,856
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/nyy/year/2009/half/1/new-york-yankees


http://home.everestkc.net/wescampbell/PCollection/cc.jpg

Thanks for looking this up. Just carelessness on my part.

Based on the caption your photo was not part of the results when I entered keywords Opening 2009 Sabathia. I should have checked Sabathia pitching log for 2009 too.

Sabathia happened to pitch the first game of the season in Baltimore (4/6) and also the first game (4/16) at new Yankee stadium in 2009. Both games are considered Opening Days. So he used the Rawlings glove in Baltimore and the Nike glove at Yankee Stadium.

[LastingsMilledge85]

No, one is considered Opening Day, the other would be considered Home Opener.

[joelsabi]

No, one is considered Opening Day, the other would be considered Home Opener.

Here's the caption from the photo I found.

APRIL 16: CC Sabathia reacts after striking out Cleveland Indians' Jhonny Peralta to end the 5th inning during Opening Day at Yankee Stadium. Yankees lost 10-2

Not really thinking. I thought this was the first game of the year.

[LastingsMilledge85]

I guess it's interchangeable but I've always heard it referred to as Opening Day being the first full day of games on the baseball calendar, and Home Opener as a team's first game at their stadium. Here's my example http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=mil&m=4&y=2010

[joelsabi]

I guess it's interchangeable but I've always heard it referred to as Opening Day being the first full day of games on the baseball calendar, and Home Opener as a team's first game at their stadium. Here's my example http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=mil&m=4&y=2010

In its broadest sense, every team has an opening day at their stadium. I guess some teams may have two opening days if the new stadium was introduced in the middle of the season. Three River Stadium and Safeco Park come to mind.

If I saw a Sabathia Nike Glove with the inscription the “Game used Opening Day 2009” the inscription can be explained also.

Anyways my bad for not looking up the Sabathia's player log.

[skier14]

In its broadest sense, every team has an opening day at their stadium. I guess some teams may have two opening days if the new stadium was introduced in the middle of the season. Three River Stadium and Safeco Park come to mind.

If I saw a Sabathia Nike Glove with the inscription the “Game used Opening Day 2009” the inscription can be explained also.

Anyways my bad for not looking up the Sabathia's player log.

Lastings is right. Opening day is the first game of the season. The home opener is the first game at home for the season. This has nothing to do with the opening of a new stadium.

The only way it is interchangeable is in the sense that a team who plays its first game of the season at home, it would be both the home opener and opening day, however the two have different meanings.

[joelsabi]

Lastings is right. Opening day is the first game of the season. The home opener is the first game at home for the season. This has nothing to do with the opening of a new stadium.

The only way it is interchangeable is in the sense that a team who plays its first game of the season at home, it would be both the home opener and opening day, however the two have different meanings.

Again, if I saw a Sabathia Nike Glove with the inscription the “Game used Opening Day 2009” the inscription, I would not have a problem with it.

If you look up on ebay keywords opening day yankees 2009 and click "enter", you get a majority of items referring to the game held on April 16 for sale.

I own a game used baseball that commemorates the opening day at Safeco Field held on July 15, 1999. First game ever at new Yankee Stadium was referred to as opening day by announcers, reports, and Yankee fans. It has to do with being the first game of the season at that stadium. Thats my understanding.

[Dach0sen0ne]

They use Opening day bases in home openers, so that's kind of confusing. :confused:

[skier14]

Again, if I saw a Sabathia Nike Glove with the inscription the “Game used Opening Day 2009” the inscription, I would not have a problem with it.

If you look up on ebay keywords opening day yankees 2009 and click "enter", you get a majority of items referring to the game held on April 16 for sale.

I own a game used baseball that commemorates the opening day at Safeco Field held on July 15, 1999. First game ever at new Yankee Stadium was referred to as opening day by announcers, reports, and Yankee fans. It has to do with being the first game of the season at that stadium. Thats my understanding.

Of course you get that, as it was "Opening Day" for The Stadium. Opening day, generally, refers to opening day of the baseball regular season.

The words opening day, usually mean the first game for a team for a season.

[joelsabi]

Of course you get that, as it was "Opening Day" for The Stadium. Opening day, generally, refers to opening day of the baseball regular season.

The words opening day, usually mean the first game for a team for a season.

Make up your mind. You said "This has nothing to do with the opening of a new stadium". Now you say it does.

[joelsabi]

They use Opening day bases in home openers, so that's kind of confusing. :confused:

Well here is a list of opening days for the Yankees. It seems there is one every year.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/opening_day/odschedule.php?t=NYA

[skier14]

Make up your mind. You said "This has nothing to do with the opening of a new stadium". Now you say it does.

My mind is made up. Opening Day for Yankee Stadium is different than Opening Day.

Here is a list of Yankees opening day pitchers (notice not all at home)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_Yankees_Opening_Day_starting_pitc hers

[joelsabi]

My mind is made up. Opening Day for Yankee Stadium is different than Opening Day.

Here is a list of Yankees opening day pitchers (notice not all at home)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_Yankees_Opening_Day_starting_pitc hers

I am glad you see the difference and the broad use of the word "Opening Day" by people.

[skier14]

Again, if I saw a Sabathia Nike Glove with the inscription the “Game used Opening Day 2009” the inscription, I would not have a problem with it.

If you look up on ebay keywords opening day yankees 2009 and click "enter", you get a majority of items referring to the game held on April 16 for sale.

I own a game used baseball that commemorates the opening day at Safeco Field held on July 15, 1999. First game ever at new Yankee Stadium was referred to as opening day by announcers, reports, and Yankee fans. It has to do with being the first game of the season at that stadium. Thats my understanding.

Of course you get that, as it was "Opening Day" for The Stadium. Opening day, generally, refers to opening day of the baseball regular season.

The words opening day, usually mean the first game for a team for a season.

[joelsabi]

Of course you get that, as it was "Opening Day" for The Stadium. Opening day, generally, refers to opening day of the baseball regular season.

The words opening day, usually mean the first game for a team for a season.

since you are very strict in your interpretation, i am surprised you did not correct me and say that its actually the inaugural game at yankee stadium.

the term opening day has been used loosely to mean home opener, opening day (in your strictest sense), and inaugural game by reporters, announcers, writers, and fans. thats all i am saying. and if a player wants to use the term opening day outside of the strictest sense of the word for an inscription, i would not hold it against the item and would consider the item. i am done with this thread.

[CampWest]

I find it amazing how much pent up energy is released on this forum sometime.

Back to the actual topic rather than a philosophical debate... The good news is the glove appears to be legit!

this is my only date specific instruction: Game Used 11-4-05

http://home.everestkc.net/wescampbell/PCollection/GordonAlex%2020051104%20AFL%20full.jpg

[spartanservitto]

Here is my only date specific item... I cant photomatch it due to the lack of photos from this era. Vernon Wells HR bat.

-Tony

[joelsabi]

I find it amazing how much pent up energy is released on this forum sometime.

Back to the actual topic rather than a philosophical debate... The good news is the glove appears to be legit!

this is my only date specific instruction: Game Used 11-4-05

http://home.everestkc.net/wescampbell/PCollection/GordonAlex%2020051104%20AFL%20full.jpg

Thanks for bringing the focus back where it should be. Yes the good news is I have good news for my friend in Japan.

Nice bat!

[CampWest]

Thanks for bringing the focus back where it should be. Yes the good news is I have good news for my friend in Japan.

Nice bat!

Also, if I am not mistaken... That is actually the FIRST glove CC ever used as a Yankee... that was his Yankee debut wasnt it? Traded from Cleveland to Milwaukee in 2008 then signed in 2009 offseason with Yanks! So that is his first yankee glove on top of opening day and on top of that awesome RIP embroidery.

I'd say thats about as good a glove as you could expect to find.

[joelsabi]

Also, if I am not mistaken... That is actually the FIRST glove CC ever used as a Yankee... that was his Yankee debut wasnt it? Traded from Cleveland to Milwaukee in 2008 then signed in 2009 offseason with Yanks! So that is his first yankee glove on top of opening day and on top of that awesome RIP embroidery.

I'd say thats about as good a glove as you could expect to find.

yes on all counts. plus the photo you found really helped. When the inscription has a specific date inscription i would think you want a photomatch and at least a style match.