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  • Fnazxc0114
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1252

    yankees on the verge of signing Lee

    If they sign him for 7 plus years i say good for Lee. I hope the rangers dont get stupid and sign him for more than 5 years. Here in about 3-4 more years the yankees are going to need a bunch of tennis balls to put on the legs of their walkers.
    Baseball do what it do
    -Ron Washington
  • legaleagle92481
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 2538

    #2
    Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

    Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
    If they sign him for 7 plus years i say good for Lee. I hope the rangers dont get stupid and sign him for more than 5 years. Here in about 3-4 more years the yankees are going to need a bunch of tennis balls to put on the legs of their walkers.
    If you guys get Grienke you are so much better off. Lee is not nearly as good as his rep, he is 32 and he has an injury history. For such an "amazing" post season pitcher he has yet to win a single World Series and this year his Game 1 performance put Texas in the whole from the get go and in Game 7 he was outpitched as well. In reality this guy is maybe the 10th best pitcher in baseball after in any order:

    Felix
    Wainwright
    Halladay
    Sabathia
    Lester
    Linecum
    Josh Johnson
    Carpenter
    Ubaldo

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    • Fnazxc0114
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 1252

      #3
      Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

      Call me crazy but i hope the rangers dont pick up anyone and make a strong run in 12. I know prospects dont win penants but read baseball america said the people we would have to trade for greinke would take us from a top 3 farm system to about 20th so i dont know if he would be worth it. Lee didnt get the rangers to the playoffs last year, and with nobody in our division getting better i think we will be fine.
      Baseball do what it do
      -Ron Washington

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      • yanks12025
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 3118

        #4
        Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

        Lee could still sign somewhere else. And if the rangers did get him, i'm sure you would change your mind and be all excited about it. I'm sorry the yankees are good almost every year, so in return they can never get low draft picks.

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        • Fnazxc0114
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 1252

          #5
          Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

          if the rangers get lee for more than 5 years i wont be excited. In my mind he chocked in the WS last year. The rangers have done just fine growing from within and trades. As far as being sorry for the yankees not getting high draft picks its no problem. They still get first and second round pics. A lot of the time the best pics are taken late through good scouting, which is something cashman would know nothing about. Cashman is the most overated gm in baseball. The pirates or royals gm could do his job, and be successful.
          Baseball do what it do
          -Ron Washington

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          • legaleagle92481
            Banned
            • Oct 2009
            • 2538

            #6
            Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

            Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
            Call me crazy but i hope the rangers dont pick up anyone and make a strong run in 12. I know prospects dont win penants but read baseball america said the people we would have to trade for greinke would take us from a top 3 farm system to about 20th so i dont know if he would be worth it. Lee didnt get the rangers to the playoffs last year, and with nobody in our division getting better i think we will be fine.
            The idea of hoarding prospects is flawed. Often the most value these guys will ever have is as prospects and once they make the majors its a free fall from there (i.e. Brandon Wood, Fernando Martinez, Alex Gordon). A farm system should be more than the two or three prospects it would take to land a star. Look at the Red Sox, every few years they trade top prospects for stars but yet still manage to produce quality major leaguers from their farm system. Yes, at times they give up a future star but that is just the cost of doing business and the potential payoff is worth it. Ask Theo Epstein if he would rather have his 2007 World Series Ring or Hanley Ramirez. The teams that hoard prospects on the other hand end up like the Angels stuck with the Brandon Woods of the world and a notch behind the truly elite teams year in and year out. If the Rangers lose Lee someone has to lead that rotation, none of those other guys is a number one starter or on an elite team even a number two, they have maybe four guys who are solid third starter types. They could still win that sad division they play in but that rotation does not beat the Red Sox, Yankees or White Sox when it counts.

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            • cjclong
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 936

              #7
              Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

              Legaleagle, what do you mean Lee has never "won a world series." He won the two game he pitched against the Yankees in 2009. I don't know any pitcher who has "won a world series" although I know a number who have pitched on teams that won the series. Lee has pitched one bad game in the playoffs and series, the first game this year, the Giants ace was equally bad, the Giants bullpen just did better for him. In the other loss giving up a single 3 run home run in 8 innings insn't normally considered bad pitching. If the Rangers had walked the number 8 hitter with two out and gone against number 9 as they probably should have then even those runs likely do not happen.

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              • legaleagle92481
                Banned
                • Oct 2009
                • 2538

                #8
                Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                Originally posted by cjclong
                Legaleagle, what do you mean Lee has never "won a world series." He won the two game he pitched against the Yankees in 2009. I don't know any pitcher who has "won a world series" although I know a number who have pitched on teams that won the series. Lee has pitched one bad game in the playoffs and series, the first game this year, the Giants ace was equally bad, the Giants bullpen just did better for him. In the other loss giving up a single 3 run home run in 8 innings insn't normally considered bad pitching. If the Rangers had walked the number 8 hitter with two out and gone against number 9 as they probably should have then even those runs likely do not happen.
                I meant his team has never won a World Series title. He has a 2-2 record and a 4.55 ERA in the Series. Bob Gibson he is not.

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                • yankees506
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1064

                  #9
                  Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                  I dont want him, someone reminds me of carl pavano, this deal will blow up in our faces

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                  • Dach0sen0ne
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 872

                    #10
                    Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                    Originally posted by yankees506
                    I dont want him, someone reminds me of carl pavano, this deal will blow up in our faces
                    I agree!!!!!!!

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                    • Fnazxc0114
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1252

                      #11
                      Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                      i dont want him either, atleast for the kind of years he will sign for. Legal you make a good point about depleting the farm. Daniels is the best GM in baseball and i have no doubts he could build it back if he sold the farm.
                      Baseball do what it do
                      -Ron Washington

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                      • LastingsMilledge85
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1438

                        #12
                        Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                        Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
                        i dont want him either, atleast for the kind of years he will sign for. Legal you make a good point about depleting the farm. Daniels is the best GM in baseball and i have no doubts he could build it back if he sold the farm.
                        You don't want him???? Lol. All during the post season you kept saying Lee will never sign in NY and will stay a Ranger and you were at the point of drooling over him. Seven years is steep for him, but you really changed your tune over the past few weeks. I'm not trying to be an instigator.

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                        • xpress34
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2648

                          #13
                          Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                          I was all for Lee during the Post Season as well, but once the Yankees went to 7 years, I was hoping the Rangers would drop out and pursue Greinke.

                          I like Lee, but wouldn't take a 7 year flyer on him... in fact I would be apprehensive about even going 6 years.

                          Just my .02

                          - Smitty

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                          • xpress34
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2648

                            #14
                            Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                            Josh -

                            I sent you a PM!!!

                            - Smitty

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                            • LastingsMilledge85
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 1438

                              #15
                              Re: yankees on the verge of signing Lee

                              Originally posted by xpress34
                              I was all for Lee during the Post Season as well, but once the Yankees went to 7 years, I was hoping the Rangers would drop out and pursue Greinke.

                              I like Lee, but wouldn't take a 7 year flyer on him... in fact I would be apprehensive about even going 6 years.

                              Just my .02

                              - Smitty
                              Couldn't agree more because of his age, but he was a late-bloomer so hopefully, for the signing team, he is able to be Jamie Moyer-esque.

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