Ebay is doing nothing about Shill Bidding.....

[camarokids]

This seller Member id fletcher4428 (http://myworld.ebay.com/fletcher4428/)
Member id fletcher4428 (http://myworld.ebay.com/fletcher4428/)
fletcher4428http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifis shill bidding. I emailed ebay days ago and they have not done anything. The same bidder with zero feedback won four of his auctions last week and four items have been re-listed.

Well the same bidder is the high bidder on three of the four items (AGAIN!)

Guillen bat currently up for auction....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jose-Guillen-Game-Used-Bat-/120676877798?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c18e705e6

Guillen bat he won last week.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jose-Guillen-Game-Used-Bat-/120673213844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c18af1d94

Bidder has placed 35 bids on 13 different items with the same seller......

Can anybody try & report this clown???

[TriplexXxSports]

Yes, anyone can report it. eBay will look into it. However, once reported, it is out of the public's hands.

[camarokids]

Yes, anyone can report it. eBay will look into it. However, once reported, it is out of the public's hands.

do you know what happens? do they close down the seller?

[Greenbaumer]

eBay will not do anything, I have reported items before. Keep in mind, the more an item sells for, the more fees eBay can get from the seller.

[Lokee]

Shill bidding is bidding that artificially increases an item's price or desirability. It's also bidding by the people the seller knows-including family members, roommates, or employees-who could have certain information about the item that other members aren't aware of. To make sure no one gets an unfair advantage, we don't allow shill bidding on eBay. If people close to you want to buy your item, they can use a format that doesn't involve bidding, such as Buy It Now. Make sure your listing follows our guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and your buying and selling privileges could be restricted. If you think another member's breaking the rules, report it (http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ReportItemMember&items=270428164765&seller=daliasandroses&active=0&state=1). You can also click the Report item link under the Seller info box on any item listing page.

[ziggy]

They won't do anything

[kudu]

I would go ahead and place a bid. If you are the winner and you feel you were shill bidded, don't pay for the auction, then report that auction to Ebay and have Ebay take care of it. Sellers can't leave negative feedback anymore so there's really nothing to lose.

[TriplexXxSports]

do you know what happens? do they close down the seller?

IF, ebay decides to look into and find the seller at fault they will close the listing and the sellers account receives a strike & will be monitored for future issues for 30 days. Repeat offenders face suspension, and closed accounts.

Mind you, this is all IF ebay decides to look into the matter. Like I said, all you can do is report it.

[sox83cubs84]

I recall one shill bidding trick from several years ago that was from an account of a seller since shut down on that account, although he has appeared on other IDs since.

The seller had one account he sold from, and another registered in another family member's name that was his "fail safe". If an item he listed wasn't drawing sufficiently high bids with an hour or 2 left, he'd use the family member's ID to place a snipe and "win" his own item.

I confronted the guy on it and asked him what the deal was, as I knew about the dual accounts. His response was that he was using the alternate account "to bid on (his own) items for friends who weren't registered with eBay". When I expressed my skepticism of his explanation, he responded "Well, don't YOU bid on items for other people?". I told him, "Yeah...but not items I listed as a seller!" The subject was changed by him immediately.

Just thought to mention a form of shill bidding that isn't as common as what is usually encountered.

Dave Miedema

[NEFAN]

[quote=Lokee;236919]Shill bidding is bidding that artificially increases an item's price or desirability. It's also bidding by the people the seller knows-including family members, roommates, or employees-who could have certain information about the item that other members aren't aware of. To make sure no one gets an unfair advantage, we don't allow shill bidding on eBay.quote]

Saying you don't allow shill bidding and doing something about it are 2 very different things. Ebays actions/inactions speak louder than any rule they claim to have. I have personally reported several sellers who were not even trying to hide it with absolutely no action by eBay.

[otismalibu]

They just want to offer that auction house feel.

Maybe they can start extending the auctions for a few days too.

[stretch]

What Ebay will do is force both accounts to do a feedback things on a survey they provide. It's so the account holders understand why it's wrong and Ebay informs them that it's illegal. It's basically a slap on the wrist.

[Lokee]

I have also found alot of times emailing them does no good. You have to call them and make the report.

I have only reported this 2 times and both times within a couple weeks the accounts where closed.

[camarokids]

the same Guillen bat is now listed for the third time. The same winner won the first two times.....

1***i (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=120676877798&aid=1***i&eu=W3iJ%2FqED5o2wZ20yJ%2FemDOYYD6nd%2F6f1ZDk%2FOT6 jRcY%3D&view=BUYER&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_Buyer_ViewLin k)http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif( 0 ) http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifhttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNewId_16x16.gif US $12.50 Jan-30-11 15:48:05 PST
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http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifhttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif Member Id: d***l (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=120676877798&aid=d***l&eu=QjMGZ2yN1sgPhnOBQMEUME6yazgNPJP2&view=BUYER&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_Buyer_ViewLin k)http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif( 1641http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconRedStar_25x25.gif) US $7.77 Jan-30-11 10:44:53 PST

[camarokids]

Same seller also has a Fernando Perez bat that was won by the same "bidder" twice. It is now re-listed for the third time.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fernando-Perez-Game-Used-Bat-/120681758689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19317fe1

[kudu]

I dont condone shill bidding, but why would Ebay do anything if the seller is winning his own auctions? Nobody is getting hurt, and Ebay is getting paid from the fees. I would think if someon else, other than the shill bidder, won the auction, then Ebay would take action. If you really want to put this seller away, win one of their auctions that has the shill bidding, dont pay for it, then contact Ebay with your evidence of the shill bidding on the auction, and any other auctions you may have evidence.

[Lokee]

Like I have said previously if it bothers you that much give them a call and voice your complaint. Alot of times emails do not make it to the right person.

[camarokids]

I dont condone shill bidding, but why would Ebay do anything if the seller is winning his own auctions? Nobody is getting hurt, and Ebay is getting paid from the fees. I would think if someon else, other than the shill bidder, won the auction, then Ebay would take action. If you really want to put this seller away, win one of their auctions that has the shill bidding, dont pay for it, then contact Ebay with your evidence of the shill bidding on the auction, and any other auctions you may have evidence.

I have submitted more reports today. The seller is not winning his own auctions for the heck of it. He is trying to increase his take.

Anyone have the ebay phone number Lokee was talking about?

[Lokee]

I just checked my numbers on my contact list.

Last time I called I used

1-800-322-9266

If I recall It will say some like "if you know your parties extension press 1" and the extension is 55130 which is powerseller support. Explain your situation and that you want to file a complaint. The 2 times I did I was passed of to ebay's trust and safety and they listened and acted.

[kudu]

I have submitted more reports today. The seller is not winning his own auctions for the heck of it. He is trying to increase his take.

Anyone have the ebay phone number Lokee was talking about?

I realize that the seller is trying to increase their take, but in my opinion, Ebay isnt going to do anything until someone else wins one of the auctions that has shill bidding. Since the seller is winning their own auctions, no harm is being done, in the eyes of Ebay. So until someone else wins one of their auctions, that is when Ebay will jump in and hopefully ban the seller from selling.

[Capital-Sports]

There is a HUGE card seller on ebay that is a notorious shill bidder with SOLID proof, but ebay doesn't seem to do anything.

Heck, if anyone even mentions the name of the business on another site I'm on, the thread will get deleted!

PS - Someone on this site is a part of that organization. :eek:

[kudu]

There is a HUGE card seller on ebay that is a notorious shill bidder with SOLID proof, but ebay doesn't seem to do anything.

Heck, if anyone even mentions the name of the business on another site I'm on, the thread will get deleted!

PS - Someone on this site is a part of that organization. :eek:

Have you won from them, found out there was shill bidding going on in the auction you won, and then reported it to Ebay?

[camarokids]

I called ebay today and talked to a Matt. He said he can see what I am talking about and will submit a report.....

I dialed 866-540-3229. I got this number in a message ebay sent to me.

The seller is still at here is a current item.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120681759481&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif

[camarokids]

Bidder Information Bidder: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif1***ihttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif( 0 ) http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifhttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconNewId_16x16.gifhttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif Feedback: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif0%http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifPositive Item description: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifItem Title: Game Used Matt Joyce Bat (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120681759481) Bids on this item: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif5 http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif 30-Day Summary Total bids: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif53 Items bid on: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif17 Bid activity (%) with this seller: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif100% http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gifhttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/buttons/btnHelp.gif Bid retractions: http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif0 Bid retractions (6 months): http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif0