Insomniac186
01-31-2011, 01:01 AM
I have a Giants cap and Padres jersey that I believe are game used but I'm not 100% convinced. Luckily, I didn't pay very much for them. Neither came with any documentation.
A few months ago I purchased an (alleged) game-used San Francisco Giants cap. Pictures are below. It is a KM Pro cap that the seller said was used by Danny O'Connell. Now first and foremost, he wasn't trying to dupe me, he simply said he had purchased it in the 1980s and the seller told him that was who used it. O'Connell had played for the Giants from 1957 (their final season in New York) and then in San Francisco in 1958 and 1959. There is just one problem; the cap has a late 1960s/early 1970s style KM Pro tag and not a Tim McAuliffe tag like a 1950s cap would. Also, normally a game-used cap would have the player's number written in marker under the visor near the sweatband, or on the backing behind the front of the crown. Instead "Danny O'Connell" is written in marker on the back of the sweatband, and a faint "O CO" to the left of the KM Pro tag on the left side of the sweatband. The cap itself is in very well-used condition. However, what makes it believable that it may be from the 1950s is the green fabric under the visor. The Giants switched to gray sometime between 1969 and 1971. The team last used KM caps in 1976. Since the Tim McAuliffe name disappeared from KM caps in the late 60s, a cap with a KM tag and a green under-visor must be somewhat rare, and perhaps was only used for one season or two, 1969 and/or 1970.
Another question is why counterfeit a Danny O'Connell cap? He seems like a random player no one's ever heard of. Most likely it was for a morbid reason; O'Connell died tragically at the age of 42 in 1969 in an auto accident (another website says it was a "coronary occlusion"), and left behind a wife and four children.
If anyone knows if the cap really could have been used by Danny O'Connell or not, please let me know!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5Wr7pcYb_M/TPsu-lwtSfI/AAAAAAAAAc0/mx5rYfWspjg/s1600/giantskm1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F5Wr7pcYb_M/TPsu-32dn5I/AAAAAAAAAc8/eNADXIf5_Q4/s1600/giantskm2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5Wr7pcYb_M/TPsu-8TADwI/AAAAAAAAAdE/T2AvNXAY9RM/s1600/giantskm3.jpg
Also I have a San Diego Padres jersey from the early 1980s, made by Wilson. It has no player number or any other identification of any kind. Perhaps it was sent to the minors or maybe it was a spare? If anyone could shed some light on this I would be grateful.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padjer1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padsjer2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padsjer3.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padsjer4.jpg
Thanks!
A few months ago I purchased an (alleged) game-used San Francisco Giants cap. Pictures are below. It is a KM Pro cap that the seller said was used by Danny O'Connell. Now first and foremost, he wasn't trying to dupe me, he simply said he had purchased it in the 1980s and the seller told him that was who used it. O'Connell had played for the Giants from 1957 (their final season in New York) and then in San Francisco in 1958 and 1959. There is just one problem; the cap has a late 1960s/early 1970s style KM Pro tag and not a Tim McAuliffe tag like a 1950s cap would. Also, normally a game-used cap would have the player's number written in marker under the visor near the sweatband, or on the backing behind the front of the crown. Instead "Danny O'Connell" is written in marker on the back of the sweatband, and a faint "O CO" to the left of the KM Pro tag on the left side of the sweatband. The cap itself is in very well-used condition. However, what makes it believable that it may be from the 1950s is the green fabric under the visor. The Giants switched to gray sometime between 1969 and 1971. The team last used KM caps in 1976. Since the Tim McAuliffe name disappeared from KM caps in the late 60s, a cap with a KM tag and a green under-visor must be somewhat rare, and perhaps was only used for one season or two, 1969 and/or 1970.
Another question is why counterfeit a Danny O'Connell cap? He seems like a random player no one's ever heard of. Most likely it was for a morbid reason; O'Connell died tragically at the age of 42 in 1969 in an auto accident (another website says it was a "coronary occlusion"), and left behind a wife and four children.
If anyone knows if the cap really could have been used by Danny O'Connell or not, please let me know!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5Wr7pcYb_M/TPsu-lwtSfI/AAAAAAAAAc0/mx5rYfWspjg/s1600/giantskm1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_F5Wr7pcYb_M/TPsu-32dn5I/AAAAAAAAAc8/eNADXIf5_Q4/s1600/giantskm2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5Wr7pcYb_M/TPsu-8TADwI/AAAAAAAAAdE/T2AvNXAY9RM/s1600/giantskm3.jpg
Also I have a San Diego Padres jersey from the early 1980s, made by Wilson. It has no player number or any other identification of any kind. Perhaps it was sent to the minors or maybe it was a spare? If anyone could shed some light on this I would be grateful.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padjer1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padsjer2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padsjer3.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/insomniac186/padsjer4.jpg
Thanks!