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frikativ54
05-23-2011, 04:55 AM
Like many of you, I have been impressed by Jose Bautista's power display of the last two seasons. However, I do not understand these prices for his game used items. I could understand the helmet going for about $1,000, but a starting bid of $2,000 seems crazy to me. The same is the case for the jersey. Does anybody think these are remotely fair prices? I would be curious to read your arguments.

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=154226351&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=154573061

Bautista Helmet

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=154226353&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=154573063

Bautista Jersey

tbone90
05-23-2011, 08:05 AM
I saw those too when MLB put them up last week and had the same reaction. Do I think they're worth it...ABSOLUTELY NOT! But someone may. Everyone has their favorite player(s), team and price they're willing to pay. What do we always say, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Early this season I recall seeing two game used two tone Marucci's sell for less than $300 each. With his recent barrage you probably couldn't get them for that price but still...

What he did last year and so far this season has no doubt been very impressive but I'm not sure it warrants such a quick and dramatic jump in g/u value. We are still talking about a 31 year old slugger who before this season had a career batting average below .250 and before last season had had averaged only 15 HR's a season. I've watched a lot of his at bats on MLB TV this season and he is fun to watch at the plate though.

trsent
05-23-2011, 08:33 AM
Like many of you, I have been impressed by Jose Bautista's power display of the last two seasons. However, I do not understand these prices for his game used items. I could understand the helmet going for about $1,000, but a starting bid of $2,000 seems crazy to me. The same is the case for the jersey. Does anybody think these are remotely fair prices? I would be curious to read your arguments.


You could look through eBay and look through the For Sale section on this forum and find items all over the place priced too high.

They can set a starting price at whatever they wish. If the item doesn't sell, then they learn they priced it too high.

We could start a whole section on this forum for items priced too high, but I would say we could spend our time better.

frikativ54
05-23-2011, 10:41 AM
You could look through eBay and look through the For Sale section on this forum and find items all over the place priced too high.

They can set a starting price at whatever they wish. If the item doesn't sell, then they learn they priced it too high.

We could start a whole section on this forum for items priced too high, but I would say we could spend our time better.

It's not just that the prices are high. It's that the minimum bids are so far above what is usually seen from MLB.com Auctions. The majority of game used items do not command such a price on the MLB's auction platform.

-Frik

cjw
05-23-2011, 11:03 AM
As a long time Jays fan and collector that lived and set up at shows in Toronto for many years I can tell you that there are some Jays collectors with deep pockets and perhaps will throw true value out if the window when it comes to picking up items they want.

I had a regular customer, a Judge, who has one of the most extensive game used Jays collections I believe in the world and he for example would not blink an eye at paying these prices.

Another example - the Jays just merged with my local Vancouver Canadian AAA team and jointly held a winter hit stove /charity event (proceeds went to a charity similar to the Jays Care Foundation, where these funds are going). I buyer paid over $600 for a Bautista autographed retail bat. It wasn't a gamer or even game ready, it was a retail, made for show signing bat. When charities are involved, bets are off.

Saying that, I believe that these may sell with one or two bids only.

ncbadges
05-23-2011, 12:13 PM
MLB is pricing 99% of the very fans that support them riight out of the collecting hobby with auctions like that.

Sad.:(

ncb

frikativ54
05-23-2011, 06:10 PM
I missed the bat; that's $2000 alone. :(

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=154226352&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=154573062

rdeversole
05-23-2011, 06:26 PM
Yeah - I can't believe some of the prices the Jays ask on gear. As a collector and as a businessman it just seems ruthless. Yes - it's their property and its supporting their charity but it's just downright insane. It's like they are pulling arbitrary numbers out of a hat, kind of like the Reds do now on some of their game used.

Manram
05-23-2011, 07:06 PM
I missed the bat; that's $2000 alone. :(

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=154226352&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=154573062

Wonder how much the bat would be if it didn't have a piece missing :D :p

schubert1970
05-23-2011, 10:46 PM
I've picked up several Bautista items since posting in the wanted section. I can't wait to share all my items with the group later this week.

sox83cubs84
05-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Yeah - I can't believe some of the prices the Jays ask on gear. As a collector and as a businessman it just seems ruthless. Yes - it's their property and its supporting their charity but it's just downright insane. It's like they are pulling arbitrary numbers out of a hat, kind of like the Reds do now on some of their game used.

I agree the prices are often high, but at least the stuff is out there. Prior to the early 1990s, the Jays went out of their way to make sure that jerseys DIDN'T enter the hobby. Old-Timers will remember the relative scarcity of Blue Jays gamers back then. Jays stuff was hard enough to find that two of the best known flannel collectors in the Philly/Baltimore/DC corridor got fooled on a fake of a LLOYD MOSEBY!:eek: Pricing could be better, but at least
they're out there.

Dave Miedema

Skizzick
05-24-2011, 08:14 PM
$2000 for a late blooming, flash in the pan power hitter, who will probably be outed as having used HGH? No thanks.

vballGuy
05-25-2011, 08:57 AM
As a huge Jays collector, I am also flabbergasted by how high these prices are. I remember in 2009, on the Jays website, (before Bautista started taking off), they were selling a Bautista game-worn Jays Canada jersey for $400. In fact, I believe they bumped it down in price and put it on the sale section of the website.....unbelievable how things change when a guy starts hitting.

I also agree with Dave's comment.....at least these Jays jerseys are available......try finding Blue Jays gamers from the 70s and 80s, and they are next to impossible to find. To a degree, same goes for early 90s gamers as well.

kprst6
05-25-2011, 11:02 AM
The bottom line is you shouldn't need a high starting bid if the item is worth that amount of money since people would bid up to at least that amount of money anyways.

trsent
05-25-2011, 02:25 PM
$2000 for a late blooming, flash in the pan power hitter, who will probably be outed as having used HGH? No thanks.

Do we just randomly attack players these days for possibly doing something wrong? We could start a whole new slander forum for that.

treant985
05-25-2011, 07:37 PM
Don't forget that it's also 2000 canadian dollars. Not that there's much of a difference right now...I think it's about 1:1. But still means it's even more than 2000 american dollars...

geoff
05-25-2011, 08:11 PM
If These Prices Are Crazy High I Wonder how much my Orioles Jose Bautista Game Used Jersey could now be worth?

Thanks
Geoff

treant985
05-25-2011, 08:45 PM
If These Prices Are Crazy High I Wonder how much my Orioles Jose Bautista Game Used Jersey could now be worth?

Thanks
Geoff

From what I've seen, it's his TOR stuff that's really going up. People are paying extra because he's a good blue jay, not really because he's a good player. But I'm sure there's been a spill-over effect to his other stuff.

schubert1970
05-25-2011, 08:46 PM
Geoff,

If you want to sell, shoot me an email.

Skizzick
05-26-2011, 12:03 PM
Do we just randomly attack players these days for possibly doing something wrong? We could start a whole new slander forum for that.
No, we don't just randomly attack them. We form an opinion based upon similar histories of other players. I'm entitled to my opinion.

withay
05-28-2011, 09:33 PM
Jays jerseys and game used stuff is always crazy high and rarely sells.

It was about 3 years ago that the mlb.com auction stuff went through the roof. Like $700 for BJ Ryan 2009 Canada Day jersey (which was the cheapest jersey on the team after he'd been released by the team and left baseball). $500 for the Nick Leyva (coach) from the same game.

Most Negro League and throwback jersey from US teams at the same time were $250 for coachs, $300 for players.

Way out of whack. And like i said, I don't think the Jays jerseys above $500 often sell on mlb.com.

withay
06-25-2011, 12:04 PM
Funny, 2 years later, the club is now selling game used player jersey from the '09 game for $450. I'm pretty sure they didn't sell many coaches' jerseys at auction for $500 or released players for $700.

http://jaysshop.stores.truition.com/edealinv/servlet/ExecMacro?nurl=control/StoreItem.vm&ctl_nbr=989&siId=4188686&catParentID=48775&scId=48775&catLevel=0&parentCatName=



Jays jerseys and game used stuff is always crazy high and rarely sells.

It was about 3 years ago that the mlb.com auction stuff went through the roof. Like $700 for BJ Ryan 2009 Canada Day jersey (which was the cheapest jersey on the team after he'd been released by the team and left baseball). $500 for the Nick Leyva (coach) from the same game.

Most Negro League and throwback jersey from US teams at the same time were $250 for coachs, $300 for players.

Way out of whack. And like i said, I don't think the Jays jerseys above $500 often sell on mlb.com.

frikativ54
06-25-2011, 09:52 PM
http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=157443088&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=157789798

The Bautista helmet is back, now at a more reasonable - but still exorbitant - price.

schubert1970
06-27-2011, 06:12 PM
http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=157443088&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=157789798

The Bautista helmet is back, now at a more reasonable - but still exorbitant - price.

This helmet is from 2011, the last one was 2010 and cracked in half.
Still a crazy price.