i have a few questions about the set 3 rangers arod and palmeiro jerseys that many have seen floating around. hopefully some forum members may be able to lend some insight.
these jerseys lack the rangers inventory code that should be present on all 2002+ rangers jerseys. in response to how and why a rangers jersey would lack the inventory code, barry meisel stated:
"According to the team, they tag every jersey that is prepared for use by, and eventually worn by, the team. They have done so since 2002.
..there are other jerseys that we don't get (promotional jerseys, charitable contributions, jerseys given to team staff, etc). Those, however, also have inventory tags. Does there exist a game-worn jersey that does not have a Texas Rangers inventory tag? It is possible, of course, but highly unlikely. For that to have happened, a player or some other staffer would have had to work a non-inventory tagged jersey into the locker room, worn it, and then removed it from the locker room."
reid stated "I was told that Arod ordered and sold boxes of them, literally. The HAMMERED Arod jerseys that MeiGray obtained were the ones from the team (all Set 1 and Set 2 jerseys)... I know there were a lot (A LOT) of Set 3 jerseys that were bought by AROD himself for his own "distribution"
juan stated "as we know AROD purchased his own inventory, used them, and sold them. Its most probable that all these pieces are legitimate with the most use going to the set 1's and 2's"
my questions:
- i don't understand how or why all of these jerseys are specifically set 3's. the inventory tagged, set 1s and 2s were obviously ordered by the team but if arod was purchasing jerseys on his own then wouldn't that constitute a separate purchase order? all of the rangers-ordered jerseys are inventory tagged and yet arods are not so i doubt arod was piggybacking on the rangers order. (had he been piggybacking, the sets would make sense. sets 1 and 2 to the rangers and set 3 to arod only makes sense in a single order). arod's orders would be separate from the rangers' and so i don't see how they would legitimately be assigned a set 3 unless arod specifically requested they be labeled "set 3" which he could likely do. if that's the case, why would he specifically request "set 3" on boxes and boxes worth of jerseys? is it because he knew his all of his set 1 and 2 jerseys were with the rangers and tagged and so set 3 would seem legit to buyers?
- why are tons of non-inventory tagged, arod-ordered jerseys all labeled set 3? how do you have 50 set 3 jerseys? as i understand it, sets may be relative to a specific purchase order. thus - order 1 includes set 1, 2 and 3. order 2 includes set 1, 2 and 3 as well. i have no idea how you legitimately wind up with nothing but 50 set 3's and no untagged, set 2's or 4's or 5's, unless, like i said, arod specifically ordered dozens of jerseys to be specifically labeled "set 3" and i have to wonder why he did that.
- why the issue is identical for both arod and palmeiro? (i haven't seen any untagged, set 3 jerseys for any other rangers players)
- juan you said that "it's most probable" that all of the inventory arod purchased is legit (ie: gameused). given that barry called these jerseys "highly unlikely" i'm curious why you call them "most probable"? what makes them probable?
given arod's history of writing "gameused" on anything and writing homerun numbers on items that were never the actual items used for that homerun, i'm more inclined to think these jerseys aren't very probable at all. if you've got any firsthand insight regarding these jerseys, i'd love to hear it.
thanks!,
rudy.
these jerseys lack the rangers inventory code that should be present on all 2002+ rangers jerseys. in response to how and why a rangers jersey would lack the inventory code, barry meisel stated:
"According to the team, they tag every jersey that is prepared for use by, and eventually worn by, the team. They have done so since 2002.
..there are other jerseys that we don't get (promotional jerseys, charitable contributions, jerseys given to team staff, etc). Those, however, also have inventory tags. Does there exist a game-worn jersey that does not have a Texas Rangers inventory tag? It is possible, of course, but highly unlikely. For that to have happened, a player or some other staffer would have had to work a non-inventory tagged jersey into the locker room, worn it, and then removed it from the locker room."
reid stated "I was told that Arod ordered and sold boxes of them, literally. The HAMMERED Arod jerseys that MeiGray obtained were the ones from the team (all Set 1 and Set 2 jerseys)... I know there were a lot (A LOT) of Set 3 jerseys that were bought by AROD himself for his own "distribution"
juan stated "as we know AROD purchased his own inventory, used them, and sold them. Its most probable that all these pieces are legitimate with the most use going to the set 1's and 2's"
my questions:
- i don't understand how or why all of these jerseys are specifically set 3's. the inventory tagged, set 1s and 2s were obviously ordered by the team but if arod was purchasing jerseys on his own then wouldn't that constitute a separate purchase order? all of the rangers-ordered jerseys are inventory tagged and yet arods are not so i doubt arod was piggybacking on the rangers order. (had he been piggybacking, the sets would make sense. sets 1 and 2 to the rangers and set 3 to arod only makes sense in a single order). arod's orders would be separate from the rangers' and so i don't see how they would legitimately be assigned a set 3 unless arod specifically requested they be labeled "set 3" which he could likely do. if that's the case, why would he specifically request "set 3" on boxes and boxes worth of jerseys? is it because he knew his all of his set 1 and 2 jerseys were with the rangers and tagged and so set 3 would seem legit to buyers?
- why are tons of non-inventory tagged, arod-ordered jerseys all labeled set 3? how do you have 50 set 3 jerseys? as i understand it, sets may be relative to a specific purchase order. thus - order 1 includes set 1, 2 and 3. order 2 includes set 1, 2 and 3 as well. i have no idea how you legitimately wind up with nothing but 50 set 3's and no untagged, set 2's or 4's or 5's, unless, like i said, arod specifically ordered dozens of jerseys to be specifically labeled "set 3" and i have to wonder why he did that.
- why the issue is identical for both arod and palmeiro? (i haven't seen any untagged, set 3 jerseys for any other rangers players)
- juan you said that "it's most probable" that all of the inventory arod purchased is legit (ie: gameused). given that barry called these jerseys "highly unlikely" i'm curious why you call them "most probable"? what makes them probable?
given arod's history of writing "gameused" on anything and writing homerun numbers on items that were never the actual items used for that homerun, i'm more inclined to think these jerseys aren't very probable at all. if you've got any firsthand insight regarding these jerseys, i'd love to hear it.
thanks!,
rudy.
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