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cammy collector
08-04-2011, 04:59 PM
$200 PayPal reward for the first person to find a photomatch of this jersey. There are a number of loose threads and other identifiable characteristics; the tast shouldn't be impossible given what I've seen you guys do before! I can send high res. copies to anyone interested. Please respond here or email me @ given.am@gmail.com

Thanks and good luck!

-Mike


http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa425/givenam/gameuseduniverse/MJ%20Jersey/DSC_8229.jpg

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa425/givenam/gameuseduniverse/MJ%20Jersey/DSC_8225.jpg

mmonte4
08-04-2011, 05:25 PM
Mike, from what I understand, this is clearly a "pro cut" jersey due to the position of the name on back (NOB). Perhaps someone else can confirm this?

cammy collector
08-04-2011, 05:41 PM
Mike, from what I understand, this is clearly a "pro cut" jersey due to the position of the name on back (NOB). Perhaps someone else can confirm this?

I'm not sure what you mean. How does the placement on this jersey differ from that of a game jersey?

trsent
08-04-2011, 05:42 PM
I'm looking on my phone but you are correct. The name appears to high from how it looks to me.

cammy collector
08-04-2011, 05:42 PM
I thought retail pro-cuts had the neck tag and didn't have the interior +3 length?

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa425/givenam/gameuseduniverse/MJ%20Jersey/DSC_8234.jpg

primeradriver
08-04-2011, 07:17 PM
It's a Pro-Cut.

primeradriver
08-04-2011, 07:20 PM
No edit button FTL. The arch of the name is the easiest way to spot the difference between game worn/issue and pro-cut for Jordan.

CollectGU
08-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Agreed Placement of NOB is too high, arch is wrong, and thethe font is also wrong, notice the shape of the R and cutting of the A:

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/72443133.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD79546832D29D8576 C1FA2D4DB234D94E3739AAB368ECC926

nick1980
08-04-2011, 09:40 PM
hmmm, that sucks

cammy collector
08-04-2011, 09:48 PM
hmmm, that sucks

eh.. I got it for $800 so no worries either way. I just thought I got lucky with a gamer :D

Kabron1971
08-04-2011, 10:44 PM
Did you get this from buyitnow on ebay? Because all of this sellers Kobe and MJ's stuffs comes from Jeff Hamilton with Jeff Hamilton LOA too..

trsent
08-04-2011, 11:09 PM
Did you get this from buyitnow on ebay? Because all of this sellers Kobe and MJ's stuffs comes from Jeff Hamilton with Jeff Hamilton LOA too..

The jacket guy?

mmonte4
08-04-2011, 11:23 PM
The jacket guy?

Yep, and from what I understand he issues a very generic COA with the item. His Dream Team jersey collection in the last Paragon Auction was a joke. I can't believe they ran it.

Kabron1971
08-05-2011, 11:26 AM
The jacket guy?
Yes sir! Cause one time I bought a Kobe Gamer from this seller, said it came from Jeff Hamilton, but the jersey turned out to be a procut....Names and numbers were double stitched, so returned the item for a refund for which he graciously accepted. Seems the seller is not aware of what he sells, thinks as long as it has the Jeff Hamilton LOA its legit......

cammy collector
08-05-2011, 11:47 AM
Did you get this from buyitnow on ebay? Because all of this sellers Kobe and MJ's stuffs comes from Jeff Hamilton with Jeff Hamilton LOA too..

yup, that's correct. the COA is actually issued from "SoCal Authentics". here it is if anyone is interested.

cammy collector
08-05-2011, 11:48 AM
*here* it is if anyone is interested..

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa425/givenam/eBay/8%204/2.jpg

nickacs
08-05-2011, 01:20 PM
Yea, sorry Cammy, but that's not a game worn MJ jersey. Actually I don't even see anything in the SoCal letter that states it is? I just see it's "spec'ed" or issued like an MJ jersey.

Like others said, NOB is the #1 identifier to determine if any 90's+ Jordan gamer is real.

Here's a nice close-up of one from Nov '96:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/11IB2vonfcVb5uRSa8faQ2yN8ej_2tNUwcnoh5mdpS8FtVV_yx lITKYYIYGrz-uQuGQoEqXHEus-ITFE0iIX45VRnMby5p8C6F2msYGvT9QJ9iZKOGU

worldchamps
08-05-2011, 05:44 PM
Yep, and from what I understand he issues a very generic COA with the item. His Dream Team jersey collection in the last Paragon Auction was a joke. I can't believe they ran it.

Mmonte, I saw this post, and am very curious on the dream team jerseys, and what was wrong with...can you advise what is bad on them? Thanks for your time

worldchamps
08-05-2011, 06:04 PM
Mmonte, I saw this post, and am very curious on the dream team jerseys, and what was wrong with...can you advise what is bad on them? Thanks for your time

I think I answered my own question , font on back arches are off...anything else? So are these recently manufactured fakes, commerative jerseys...what do you think .... The autograph basketballs look legit?

mickeymbz
08-06-2011, 09:27 AM
Yes sir! Cause one time I bought a Kobe Gamer from this seller, said it came from Jeff Hamilton, but the jersey turned out to be a procut....Names and numbers were double stitched, so returned the item for a refund for which he graciously accepted. Seems the seller is not aware of what he sells, thinks as long as it has the Jeff Hamilton LOA its legit......

jeff hamilton LOA buncha garbage...reminiscent of the 90's milwaukie bucks ballboy justin LOA's. if a price a shirt is to good to be true...tjen its to good to be true. SoCal is offering up procuts to newbies as gamers is nothing new. be wary of them

mmonte4
08-06-2011, 12:05 PM
I think I answered my own question , font on back arches are off...anything else? So are these recently manufactured fakes, commerative jerseys...what do you think .... The autograph basketballs look legit?

No, those Paragon Dream Team jerseys are actually from 1992 are are quiet rare, they just weren't the jerseys used in games and are therefore no where near as valuable. Now, there have been some recently sold 1992 Dream Team jerseys that have correct specs (at first glance), but are actually well made FAKES manufactured just a few years ago. Watch out for the 1996 All Star jerseys as well. It is very tough to tell the difference unless you know exactly what to look for. A fellow forum member attempted to sell me all three fakes and almost took me for $20k. Lucky for me, another collector associate of mine had recently received a fake himself (unlucky from him of course), and shared the real vs fake differences with me.

CPuente57
08-06-2011, 05:39 PM
Last year I blindly purchased a Penny Hardaway Game Used Jersey from them. I was relatively new to the game and they also sent me a "practice worn" Penny jersey, but it was one of those NBA reversible jerseys, didn't look worn at all, I ended up not feeling comfortable with the purchase so I returned it and got a full refund back with no problems.

mickeymbz
08-06-2011, 09:45 PM
Yep, and from what I understand he issues a very generic COA with the item. His Dream Team jersey collection in the last Paragon Auction was a joke. I can't believe they ran it.

Paragon auctions as a whole is a joke. yet you seem to hold some validity to them when they offered that BS kobe rook in comparison to my own Kobe rook. contradictory?

see:
Kobe Rookie Uniform - I refuse to believe it! (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=41682)

post #11,17,18,19,20

mmonte4
08-06-2011, 10:10 PM
Paragon auctions as a whole is a joke. yet you seem to hold some validity to them when they offered that BS kobe rook in comparison to my own Kobe rook. contradictory?

see:
Kobe Rookie Uniform - I refuse to believe it! (http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=41682)

post #11,17,18,19,20


Mick,

The main reason I have doubts about your jersey was that Dan had it listed along with the complete uniform. 2 problems: #1 - the shoes included in the package were NOT rookie shoes, and thus were NOT worn during Kobe's rookie year. #2 - the autograph on the jersey is NOT a rookie autograph, meaning the jersey was signed at a later date. This does not mean that your jersey isn't the real deal, it simply creates a cloud of doubt.

As for the Paragon Kobe jersey, you are right, the specs on that one are way off.