Thome just hit #599 and 600 in the game tonight! Pretty cool stuff. Looks like the Twins bullpen caught the HR so he'll have a nice ball to keep.
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Good for him. Thome is one of the nicest players in baseball.
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Nice bat Wes. Lmk if you want sell it.Roger Ward- Thomecollector
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Not to ruin the moment, but I don't think we can assume anyone from the Steroid Era has done things "the right way." Steroids were rampant, and from what I've heard, over half of ballplayers used them. I don't know how Thome's not being caught equates to his playing the game clean. JMO.Les Zukor
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Not to ruin the moment, but I don't think we can assume anyone from the Steroid Era has done things "the right way." Steroids were rampant, and from what I've heard, over half of ballplayers used them. I don't know how Thome's not being caught equates to his playing the game clean. JMO.Comment
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But, you also can't assume that he did use because of it either. Unless there is some evidence out there that he did. We can't put an astericks(I hope I spelled that right) next to everything in this era. Yes, there are some that used, but there are also some that did not.
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And I am shocked that a huge Bagwell fan made that statement about Thome. Bagwell has often been accused and judged by many people based on nothing but association and the fact that he added a lot of muscle mass over the years. Personally I don't have any reason to assume Bagwell used (I believe he was just a gym rat and that he got involved in body-building lifting instead of baseball strength training which ruined the end of his career).
And the same goes for Thome.
As a game used collector, we've seen hat/helmet sizes of some of the guys known to have used steroids and there is some evidence there in things that should not change significantly (hat and show size specifically). Bonds went from like a 7 3/8" hat to an 8 1/4 I think it was. Jose Guillen from a 7 1/4 to an 8. Etc. Bagwell still wore a 7 1/4 hat at the end of his career. I believe the last Thome hat I saw was right where I expected it to be.
I dunno, Frik, I'm pretty sure you have fought the fact-less Bagwell accusations in the past, not sure you should then turn around and throw Thome under the bus.sigpic
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Personally, I believe Thome and Bagwell are both clean, as was Frank Thomas.
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Barry Bonds wore a size 7 1/8 with ASU and with the Pittsburgh Pirates, then 7 1/4 while with the San Francisco Giants. I have never seen anything above a 7 1/4 that was actually genuine for Bonds. Please remember, hair styles as well as cap manufacturers are valid reasons for cap size increase or decrease and cannot always be associated with steroids and such. But with Bonds, he chooses a shaved head with the Giants and the cap size increases......go figure.
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Re: THOME Hit #600
Not to ruin the moment, but I don't think we can assume anyone from the Steroid Era has done things "the right way." Steroids were rampant, and from what I've heard, over half of ballplayers used them. I don't know how Thome's not being caught equates to his playing the game clean. JMO.Roger Ward- Thomecollector
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+1
And I am shocked that a huge Bagwell fan made that statement about Thome. Bagwell has often been accused and judged by many people based on nothing but association and the fact that he added a lot of muscle mass over the years. Personally I don't have any reason to assume Bagwell used (I believe he was just a gym rat and that he got involved in body-building lifting instead of baseball strength training which ruined the end of his career).
And the same goes for Thome.
As a game used collector, we've seen hat/helmet sizes of some of the guys known to have used steroids and there is some evidence there in things that should not change significantly (hat and show size specifically). Bonds went from like a 7 3/8" hat to an 8 1/4 I think it was. Jose Guillen from a 7 1/4 to an 8. Etc. Bagwell still wore a 7 1/4 hat at the end of his career. I believe the last Thome hat I saw was right where I expected it to be.
I dunno, Frik, I'm pretty sure you have fought the fact-less Bagwell accusations in the past, not sure you should then turn around and throw Thome under the bus.
As for Bagwell, it is totally irrelevant here. I never said that Bagwell was clean; he may well have used steroids. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if he did. I don't support baseless accusations; I was just pointing out that we shouldn't make assumptions on a guy's use just because he hasn't been caught.Les Zukor
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