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Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:46 AM
Hey everyone,

I originally created this thread over at Chris Creamer's Sports Logos site, but I thought I'd post highlights of it here, to see if anyone has any extra info to add.

Here's the link to the original thread:

http://boards.sportslogos.net/index....pic=81874&st=0 (http://boards.sportslogos.net/index.php?showtopic=81874&st=0)

One more thing to add, I learned a few things as I was adding to the original thread, so there is info in the first post that is corrected in later posts. I'm too lazy to re-organize everything, so I'm just going to post the main posts here, in the order that they were posted.

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:46 AM
My favorite team, the Baltimore Orioles, haven't had a winning season since 1997, so lately I've shifted my attention to my favorite logo of all time, The Cartoon Bird. That friendly, smiling, feathered character that perched atop the caps of the Orioles from 1966-1988. But don't let his friendly smirk and soft feathers fool you, he will show no mercy.

During The Birds 23 year tenure, the O's had 19 winning seasons, including 8 Playoff and 6 World Series appearances. The Orioles were the winningest team in all of baseball during the span that The Cartoon Bird donned their caps. If they weren't in it, they were damn close.

OK, enough with Baltimore's long gone winning baseball history, lets get to the actual cap and it's famous logo:

There are actually 3 different versions of The Cartoon Bird cap logo. There are only 2 posted on this site, which is what prompted me to write this post.

First, the 1966 cap:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoonbird1.jpg

Classic Cartoon Bird logo on black hat, with orange bill. They used this cap from 1966-1974. It is represented on this site with this beautiful rendition:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/orioles66cap.jpg

The only difference I notice between the actual cap logo and this image, is the button on top of the cap is rounded off at the top. On the actual cap, the button is angular, almost a triangle shape.

I've seen this bird used on past replica hats, but for some reason the button on the birds cap was left black and not colored orange. Here is a KM Pro/Mitchel & Ness replica of this cap:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoonbirdKM.jpg


In 1975, the Orioles added white panels to the front of the hat and introduced a new bird. The forgotten Cartoon Bird:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoon75.jpg

The birds beak is tilted higher upward and there are slight differences in the eyes, button and logo on his cap. There is also black stitching around the white panels.

They also used this bird on an orange paneled cap that was used as an alternate from 1975-1976:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoonbirdorange.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/orangecartoon.jpg

I've never seen this bird represented correctly on any replica caps. He's represented on this site with this image, which is not also not correct:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoonorange.jpg


Moving onto 1977, they continued with the white panels (minus the black stitching) and reduced the size of the bird:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoon77.jpg

The O's would wear this cap through the 1988 season.

Here's the image from the site:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoonbird.jpg

Everything looks good, except for the logo on the birds cap, which is supposed to be orange, not white. I often see replicas, with the white logo instead of orange, as well.

This is the bird we see on all replica caps and merchandise today. It has taken the place of the '66-'74 bird, as illustrated by this recent, authentic, on-field, turn back the clock model:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/authentic.jpg

It's also used on the '75-'76 orange panel replica:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoon75-1.jpg

Well, there you have it, everything I know about the 3 variations of The Cartoon Bird. Rumor has it that the Orioles will bring him back on the caps officially next year. I wonder which version they will use?

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:47 AM
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/eddiedecalhelmet.jpg

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:48 AM
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0160.jpg

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:49 AM
As a die-hard Orioles fan since birth, I've always wondered why there were so many inconsistencies between the bird logos.
Good post, NDwas. I never noticed those details in the swinging bird. With the current cartoon cap logo, I figured they were trying to standardize and just narrow it down to one bird face, but then you see the bird they release officially, on the new, authentic/on-fild, TBTC cap and it's different still.

Furthering my research on the actual cap logos, I came across an auction site that has a ton of game used O's gear from the '50's through present:

http://www.parkwaypastimes.com/search.php

Just type 'orioles' or 'orioles hat' into their search engine and a bunch of stuff will come up.

Of the 22 '66-'74 caps, 21 are made by Wilson and 1 is made by KM Pro.

The hats are all uniform and consistent with this logo:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/merv66.jpg

Except for this one:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cuellar66with75.jpg

Notice it's the '75 logo, but his beak isn't turned up. This cap is made by Wilson.

And this one:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0133.jpg

What's the late '70's bird doing on the '66 cap?! Maybe you could say the new TBTC cap isn't incorrect after all? It's listed as belonging to George Staller. He was the 1st base coach. This one is also made by Wilson.

So we have all 3 Cartoon Bird logos making their appearance on the '66-'74 cap!

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:50 AM
The '75-'76 caps were made by a company called AJD. Here are two different versions of the same logo:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/brooks751.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/brooks752.jpg

The first one looks like a patch sewn on, while the second one is much smoother and refined, although that might be a patch too.

In a quick Google search, the only info I could find about AJD is that it was based in Richmond, Virginia, at one time:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/BrooksAJD.jpg

Notice the tag inside the cap,"100% Nylon". Looks like they were 30 years ahead of New Era in using all synthetic fabric for their caps.


All the '77-'88 caps are made by New Era, and everything seems pretty consistent with this example:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/weaver77.jpg

Except for Jim Palmer's cap:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0160-1.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/palmer77inside.jpg

Notice the material that makes up the white panels is smoother and looks more natural. He's also got a leather headband in his cap, while the rest of the caps have cloth. The question is, did New Era custom make Palmer's cap with the leather headband, or did a different company make them?

I once found a Sports Specialties version of this cap. Sports Specialties made pro cap models for at least a dozen or so teams in the eighties and nineties, but I'm not sure if the O's actually wore them on the field:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/Ossportsspecialty.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/Ossportsspecialtybottom.jpg

Here's another oddball cap that is listed as belonging to Doug Decinces 1977-78:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/DougDecinces1977-78.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/DougRomanPro.jpg

It's made by Roman Pro. Notice that it's the '66 bird logo, but with the black button on top of the birds hat, instead of orange one. In my first post, I mentioned that the early Cooperstown Collection '66 cap replicas were correct, except for the black button on the birds cap. Well here's that same logo, but on the the '70's cap! What the hell!?

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:51 AM
So to sum up my findings thus far, here are all the cartoon birds featured on the black, '66-'74 cap:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0133-1-1.jpg
L-R:
1. This seems to be the most common bird seen on this cap. Made by Wilson.
2. KM Pro version of the bird. (I didn't realize there was a difference before)
3. This is the bird most commonly seen on the '75-'76 cap, but tilted up. Made by Wilson.
4. Most commonly seen on the '77-'88 caps. Made by Wilson

Here are the birds seen on the '75-'88 caps:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/weaver77-1-1.jpg
L-R:
1. '75-'76 bird, donned both white and alternate orange paneled caps. Made by AJD.
2. Another variation of the same bird. The design seems about the same besides the materials and technique used to sew. Made by AJD.
3. Roman Pro version. Note that it's the same as the KM Pro version, except for the black button on the birds cap.
4. New Era version, seen on most merchandise today, but usually the orange logo on the birds cap is colored white.

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:51 AM
Wow this is one of the best threads since the Brooklyn dodgers logo one. I've learned alot, it is interesting to see all of the different variations of the same logo! Thanks Trevell NDwas and others. :grin:

Thanks kcchiefsfan. I remember reading that Brooklyn Dodgers thread a while back and wishing there was someone who would give that same treatment to the Orioles cartoon bird logo!

I wouldn't call myself a serious cap collector by any means, but it's always cool to have a few caps on hand just for whenever. It just ticks me off when I see major inaccuracies with historic caps. I don't expect a stitch by stitch replica, necessarily (although that would be nice), but at least get the logo right. That's the most important part of the cap!

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:52 AM
I dug out a couple books to reference at home. I've got a Topps book of all the Orioles team baseball card sets through 1987. The cards on the pages are shrunk down to about a quarter of the size of an actual card, but of all the clear photo cards that have the players wearing the black crowned '66-'74 cap, this is the only version of the logo that I see:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/patch66.jpg
I've also got The Orioles Encyclopedia. Not exactly filled with a ton of photos, but of the dozen plus or so pictures of players wearing that cap, I only see that same logo.

So I think it's safe to say that this is THE logo of the '66-'74 cap, made by Wilson Sporting Goods. So if they put out a repro of the '66-'74 cap, with that logo, I would be perfectly happy with it.

It's still interesting that all the versions of the Cartoon Bird logo made it onto the black crowned cap. I'm guessing that the other logos we've seen on this cap were some sort of prototypes:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0133-1.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cuellar66with75-1.jpg
or in the case of this logo, samples from the KM Pro cap company:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/markbelanger66kmpro.jpg

It would be interesting to know what company had exclusive rights to the Orioles caps during those years. My guess would be Wilson, since the majority of the hats from that era seem to be made by them.

I just found out through this site: ballcapblog (http://ballcapblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/company-profile-roman-pro-cap-company.html) that Wilson caps were manufactured by New Era, and most of the embroidery was done by under private label by Roman Pro.
Don't know if this was the case for this specific cap, but interesting info nonetheless.

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:53 AM
Here's a pretty good video by Tom Davis on O's hat history:
http://www.masnsports.com/ml/video.php?show_id=40418
It's pretty comprehensive, but I'm not sure this logo:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/77patch.jpg
Was used from '76 on.

Going by my Topps Orioles book, I don't see that hat come up until the 1979('78 season)set, and it's only on two cards that I can tell. It's not until the 1980('79 season) set on, that you see every single player with that logo.

This one isn't even mentioned in the video, but in The Orioles Encyclopedia, there is one picture with this logo:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/DougDecinces1977-78-1.jpg
It's worn by Don Stanhouse, who was on the team '78-'79, and '82.

There are a few cards in the '79('78 season) Topps set, that look like they might have that logo, but it's hard to tell.

The logo that Tom says was used in '75 only, can be seen on caps through the '79('78 season) set.

There seems to be some possible overlap in the late '70's, which makes trying to figure this out a little confusing.

All this information leads me to believe that the following could possibly be the correct chronology for the the Orioles on-field Cartoon Bird logo:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/77patch-6.jpg
L-R:
1. 1966-1974 - This is the only logo I've seen the players wear in pictures. Made by Wilson Sporting Goods.
2. 1975-1978 - Logo used on both white and orange panel('75-'76 only)alternate. Made by AJD.
3. 1975-1976 - Logo used on both white and orange panel alternate. Made by AJD.
4. 1978 - Made by Roman Pro.
5. 1979-1988 - Made by New Era(possibly Sports Specialties as well)

Well there it is, if anyone can add to this with player or team photos for more clarification, it would be great!

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:53 AM
...and just for fun, the whole dang family!!!
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/77patch-7.jpg

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 12:54 AM
One thing that might be worth considering is that some players might have continued to wear old caps after the team changed suppliers. That's a problem I had doing my Brooklyn Dodger research - maddening.

Great job on the recap! I never realized that there were so many variations of this logo.

Thanks Gothamite. I did that into consideration. Also, most of the baseball card pictures were taken during Spring Training back then, so that's another thing to consider when using them as a reference.

Your Brooklyn Dodger "B" thread was sort of an inspiration for this thread. I share your frustrations on wishing New Era/Cooperstown would get these throwbacks right!

Here's a cool pic of Reggie Jackson sportin' the '75-'76 alternate orange panel AJD cap:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/ReggieJacksonOrioles.jpg
And here's the crappy remake by New Era/Cooperstown:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoon75-2.jpg
I wouldn't expect New Era to reproduce a 100% Nylon version of this cap to exact specifications, as it was originally made, but like I said earlier, at least get the logo right.

Here's an American Needle version that's even worse!
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/pMLB2-2545774dt.jpg
From the description:
"Own a little piece of history with American Needle's Baltimore Orioles 1975-76 Alternate Cooperstown Cap, a precise replica of what the legendary pros once wore."
Haha! Yeah right!

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 01:03 AM
When you consider the batting helmet logos the Orioles used during that era, there are even more differences. Eddie Murray's 1978 Topps card shows him wearing a helmet where the bird has a white line in its beak rather than a black line. Also, the size of the white panel on the helmets changed at some point (although that's not really logo related.)

Rather than repeating myself, I'll link to a post I made about it back in April...

http://boards.sports...dpost&p=1526945 (http://boards.sportslogos.net/index.php?showtopic=79798&view=findpost&p=1526945)

Aw man.. the helmets are a whole other mess, but in my research, I think I may have found out why. It's because some of the helmet logos are hand painted, while others were affixed with a decal.

The painted logos ranged from really good:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/1966-1974BlairA.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/1975-1988BlairA.jpg

To really bad:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/Cuellar1966-1974Autow-FlapA100_5041.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/1975-1988SingletonA.jpg

And here's a helmet with the decal:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/eddiedecalhelmet.jpg

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 01:05 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227830_565078147048_34701836_32032446_7197634_n.jp g
This is a New Era re-release that I bought. It doesn't have that New Era logo on the side and the back doesn't have the MLB logo. It's my favorite Orioles cap. This is the 1983 World Series one if I recall.

That's the one cartoon cap repro out there that is pretty much an exact replica.
Here's the actual game worn version, also made by New Era:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0160.jpg

Dolphins23
08-16-2011, 01:50 AM
Why does the new era hat logo look like the beanie baby CAW who keep in mind is a CROW lol

Cartoon Brid
08-16-2011, 01:51 AM
Well, I guess that Orioles baseball card book I have to reference, with the 1/4 size pics, really isn't detailed enough to tell which logo is being worn. I just checked out a few actual cards from a dealer friend of mine and discovered this on a couple '75('74 season) cards:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/palmer-74t1.jpg
It's Jim Palmer with the bird that would later be seen next year with the up turned beak against the white panels.

So maybe they used this logo for the last year of the black crowned caps and in '75, AJD used it in the transition to their white and orange panel caps?

Checked a couple cards from the '74('73 season)set, and it appears to be the more common '66 bird:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/paulblair74.jpg

Doodles
08-16-2011, 08:17 AM
Great job guys...bring back the cartoon bird!!

shoremen44
08-16-2011, 09:24 AM
Bring it back??... Wieters already has... he wears a Black / White / Orange helmet with the cartoon Bird under his catchers mask

Birdbats
08-16-2011, 04:07 PM
Great research! I've been wanting to do this same kind of examination of the STL logo on Cardinals' caps. It's amazing how much it has changed, often subtly. Thanks for sharing!

Orioles1970
08-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Fantastic job! For years I always thought it was just me in my anal viewing and wondering why all the different Orioles logo styles. To this day I am so bothered by the poor repos that I have a difficult time wearing a Throwback. Nothing beats a vintage Wilson, AJD and even a Roman Pro. As a long time Orioles fan, my constant collecting urge has and always will be for vintage Orioles caps. I'd love to meet and share a conversation with you all. Once again. Great job Cartoon Bird on your research and bringing these cap inconsistencies to light. Dave
dfjp56@aol.com

Cartoon Brid
08-22-2011, 12:53 PM
Thanks Dave, I feel the same way about throwbacks.

Like I said before, I don't expect stitch by stitch, matching material replicas, but I would kill to have New Era 59FIFTY caps with these logos on them! Instead, they put out the replicas only with that one bird!

I bought myself the recent Turn Back The Clock hat, but only because it's an actual on-field, pro model. Call me a nitpicker, but I'm just not interested in the Cooperstown Collection replicas if they don't at least get the logo right.

Currently, these are the best we have for throwback caps:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/authentic-1.jpg
Again, I bought this one, but only because it's an on-field model.
I'd much rather see this cap with this logo:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/patch66-1.jpg
(please excuse the crappy photoshop)

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/cartoon75-2.jpg
I'd buy this cap in a heartbeat if it had this logo:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/100_0139-1-1.jpg

And finally this cap:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/oriolescooperstown-1.jpg
This one they pretty much got right, although, maybe the logo could use just a little tweaking. Here's an actual game worn cap for comparison:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/77ripken.jpg

I'd be more than happy with those 3 caps representing the cartoon bird logo hats in the New Era/Cooperstown Collection line. You've got one black crowned cap, one orange paneled cap, and one white paneled cap, with 3 different logo variations.

I'd also like to see this one remade into a 59FIFTY:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/brooks752.jpg
I know it might be pushing it to have another white panel cartoon bird cap, but I just love this logo, I think it's my favorite one now. Plus, this cap is slightly different in that it has black stitching around the white panels.

Not sure what to with these guys:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p302/skyrissian/DougDecinces1977-78-1-1.jpg
They are pretty much the same, besides one having an orange cap button, the other one black.

The one with the black button was used on both Mitchell & Ness and Roman Pro replicas, on the black crowned cap, back when they had rights to the Cooperstown Collection.

So yeah, until New Era gets it right, (I won't hold my breath) I won't be buying any of their Cooperstown caps, except maybe the white panel one. I wonder if there is some way to contact them and get them hip about the different variations?

In the meantime, I guess I'll be searching for the actual game-used caps. The problem with that is, I like to wear them, so I would only buy caps in my size. I don't really care too much about who wore it, as long as it's game-issued. Any tips on where to look for them, besides eBay?

Dave, what vintage O's caps do you have? You should post pics of them here, I'd love to see them.

Trev

frikativ54
08-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Why are you Cartoon_Brid and not Cartoon_Bird?

Cartoon Brid
08-22-2011, 02:26 PM
Ha ha! Didn't notice that! Just a bad typo when I registered, I guess. I was wondering why I had so much trouble logging in as Cartoon Bird. Oh well... Wonder if there's a way to change it?

ksfarmboy
08-27-2011, 06:10 PM
Here's one circa 1979 that you don't have :). I'll try to post some of my Orioles hats later and see if you can guess the dates. I'm pretty confident on when they were made so it will be interesting to see if your dates match up with mine. The helmets would be a good study too. I've also done some research on the adidas the Orioles wore that I will try to share. Great info and thanks for sharing.

ksfarmboy
08-27-2011, 07:19 PM
Cartoon bird lets play a game for fun. Here is my hat collection. 5 are game used and 5 are not. Can you name the approximate year, manufacturer and whether they were game used? Some are easier than others.

Cartoon Brid
08-31-2011, 10:34 PM
Wow, thanks, ksfarmboy! This is exactly why I started this thread. Awesome collection! Here are my guesses for the caps, top to bottom, L-R:
1. 1968, Wilson, game-used
2. 1976, AJD, game-used
3. 1989, Mitchell & Ness, replica
4. 1991, Roman of Brockton, replica
5. 1977, Roman Pro, game-used
6. 1978, Roman Pro, game-used
7. 1988, Sports Specialties
8. 1987, ??
9. 1979, New Era, game-used
10. 1999, ??

ksfarmboy
09-01-2011, 03:11 PM
Wow, thanks, ksfarmboy! This is exactly why I started this thread. Awesome collection! Here are my guesses for the caps, top to bottom, L-R:
1. 1968, Wilson, game-used
2. 1976, AJD, game-used
3. 1989, Mitchell & Ness, replica
4. 1991, Roman of Brockton, replica
5. 1977, Roman Pro, game-used
6. 1978, Roman Pro, game-used
7. 1988, Sports Specialties
8. 1987, ??
9. 1979, New Era, game-used
10. 1999, ??

You did pretty darn good there. You got 4/5 of the game used. There are so many replica hats that it's almost impossible to tell on those. Again, great research and thanks for sharing.

1) 1968 Wilson Brooks Robinson worn in 1969
2) Mid 70's KM Pro Replica?
3) Roman Pro Replica
4) Roman Pro Replica
5) 1979? Roman Pro. Was used by Jim Frey. Came w/ complete 1979 jersey. May have been a hold over from earlier years.
6) Late 70's Roman Pro used by Bob Boyd during old timers game at KC
7) 1982 or earlier New Era game used, player unknown
8) Roman Pro very cheap replica
9) 1985-86 New Era Game used Storm Davis.
10) New Era Replica I bought a few years back.

Cartoon Brid
09-01-2011, 04:20 PM
Very interesting. I'm curious about that KM Pro. You're not sure if it's a replica or not? Do you have anymore O's hats in your collection?

ksfarmboy
09-01-2011, 08:58 PM
Very interesting. I'm curious about that KM Pro. You're not sure if it's a replica or not? Do you have anymore O's hats in your collection?


I don't think that brand was ever used by the Orioles. That's the extent of my Orioles hats. Here's a couple of my helmets though.

cjw
09-02-2011, 12:43 AM
Love the O's cartoon bird logo! The work you have done ("brid" or "bird"!) is amazing. Really enjoyed learning more about this classic logo's history.

Can I ask if you or other O's collectors recognize the rememnats of this simple orange, block "B"'logo on the pictured fiberglass helmet, as being a vintage Orioles logo? I am trying to identify the team and am having no luck. Their was a modern logo sticker affixed On top of the older painted "B", but just the backing remained.

Thanks!

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u349/stealhome/d8f96aa6.jpg

Cartoon Brid
09-03-2011, 01:06 AM
Cool helmets, farmboy. Looks like the one on the left is a decal and is the other one a decal or painted on? Their helmets with the decal seem to be pretty consistent through the years. When it was painted on however, they were all over the place!

CJW, not sure what team that helmet is from? The O's only used the "B" in 1963, and I'm not even sure how often they wore batting helmets back then.

frikativ54
03-18-2012, 03:21 PM
Bump for the Cartoon Bird Hats (http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=359514&cgmenbr=33072944&MoreSubs=Y) on MLB.com Auctions for St. Patty's Day!

Pretty neat, if you ask me. Even more cool for the O's collectors out there. :D

33rd st
04-04-2012, 09:50 AM
Great thread. I'm looking for a 1963 Orioles game used or issued hat. It is black with a reddish orange "B" on it. If you hear of someone who has one please let me know.

Thanks!

33rd st

frikativ54
04-07-2012, 07:45 AM
Here are some Cartoon Bird License Plates on MLB.com Auctions. Cal Ripken's #8 is going for a pretty penny: http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=180445516&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=180792226.