Shipp_96
09-25-2011, 05:16 PM
I usually buy my game worn gear directly from the league, team, school or a reliable source (like Jo Sports, Mei Gray, etc...). Recently, a guy on ebay had some great deals, and after checking them over with my friends who are both collectors and dealers, I was given the green light on buying these items. All were legit and are excellent additions to my collection.
So this guy and I are building a decent buyer/seller relationship, and he offers me a rare jersey via email. But he wants to go off of ebay to avoid fees (I can relate, but a bit of a red flag). I agree, but then he wants to do Paypal as a gift (another red flag). After reading threads on here about that, I agree to use Paypal but as a legitimate transaction (TG I did). I get the jersey fine, but the LOA from the school is missing (red flag # 3). When I tell my friends about it (the ones that recommended I buy his other items) they instantly ask for pictures.
My buddy is personal friends with the player who wore the jersey I purchased ( I know this as I have met the player thru him and bought a pair of worn cleats directly from the player). They both tell me great game worn jersey, but problem is he never wore that one and the rare patch is not accurate to the jersey, since he sold it personally to a college friend who still owns it.
So, I contact the seller who I was building this "trusting" relationship with and advise him of what I have found out. I write a diplomatic and apologetic email and offer a trade for something else, or for him to give me a slight refund and I'll have the patch professionally removed.
He writes me back a harsh, p!ssy and defensive email back filled with profanity. MY question is why are you this upset if you thought you sold me something legitimate? I never once accused him of lying or doctoring the jersey, but told him there was an excellent chance it was sold to him that way. He sure was defensive though, and now wants to see the player with the real jersey and a recent publication? WTF??? My buddy may get the player to write that it's not his to me (as this is a player that gets PO'd when people sell knock offs as his), but come on!
I question if I report this to Paypal (since I thankfully have buyers protection) will I get a full refund? Or will he win since he can argue he legitimately purchased it and believes it to be real?
Needless to say, he has screwed himself out of any other purchases from me for being a shady acting @ss over this. But I feel ill as this is my first bad purchase, even though (again) it is a legit game worn jersey minus the patch and incorrect player.
Looking for any advice or suggestions on how to proceed with my case to Paypal, since the seller is clearly uncooperative at this point.
So this guy and I are building a decent buyer/seller relationship, and he offers me a rare jersey via email. But he wants to go off of ebay to avoid fees (I can relate, but a bit of a red flag). I agree, but then he wants to do Paypal as a gift (another red flag). After reading threads on here about that, I agree to use Paypal but as a legitimate transaction (TG I did). I get the jersey fine, but the LOA from the school is missing (red flag # 3). When I tell my friends about it (the ones that recommended I buy his other items) they instantly ask for pictures.
My buddy is personal friends with the player who wore the jersey I purchased ( I know this as I have met the player thru him and bought a pair of worn cleats directly from the player). They both tell me great game worn jersey, but problem is he never wore that one and the rare patch is not accurate to the jersey, since he sold it personally to a college friend who still owns it.
So, I contact the seller who I was building this "trusting" relationship with and advise him of what I have found out. I write a diplomatic and apologetic email and offer a trade for something else, or for him to give me a slight refund and I'll have the patch professionally removed.
He writes me back a harsh, p!ssy and defensive email back filled with profanity. MY question is why are you this upset if you thought you sold me something legitimate? I never once accused him of lying or doctoring the jersey, but told him there was an excellent chance it was sold to him that way. He sure was defensive though, and now wants to see the player with the real jersey and a recent publication? WTF??? My buddy may get the player to write that it's not his to me (as this is a player that gets PO'd when people sell knock offs as his), but come on!
I question if I report this to Paypal (since I thankfully have buyers protection) will I get a full refund? Or will he win since he can argue he legitimately purchased it and believes it to be real?
Needless to say, he has screwed himself out of any other purchases from me for being a shady acting @ss over this. But I feel ill as this is my first bad purchase, even though (again) it is a legit game worn jersey minus the patch and incorrect player.
Looking for any advice or suggestions on how to proceed with my case to Paypal, since the seller is clearly uncooperative at this point.