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The teams with the two best records are out!
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Chris
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The title should say CARDINALS IN!
Collecting Cardinals jerseys and bats, with a focus on Yadier Molina, Matt Holliday, and Adam Wainwright.
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Just goes to show that Money (Payroll) and Wins don't mean everything...
Not only were the Phils and Yanks ranked 1 and 2 in MLB for Wins, they were also 1 and 2 in MLB for Payroll:
The Phillies had a $178 million payroll in 2011, second only to the $202 million that the New York Yankees spent.
Can't wait for Tigers @ Rangers starting tonight - GO RANGERS!!!
As far as Cardinals @ Brewers, I have to root for the CARDINALS!!!Comment
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The Yankees rotation sucks and they have several week spots in their batting order so their loss doesn't shock me. If they had won they would have been lucky to get two games off the Rangers. The Phils loss isn't shocking either. Their offense is anemic compared to the recent past, they don't have a reliable closer and their rotation is not what it is cracked up to be. Oswalt has not been an ace for years as he showed in game four. Halladay is great but Hamels is not nor has ever been a true ace and Lee is an ace at times but at others he is far from it such as in Game 2 of this series at points earlier in the season and in last year's world series. This was never Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz.Comment
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legal, respectfully, you must not have watched much Phillies or Yankee baseball this year...
Yeah, the Yankees rotation was a bit suspect, but what team in baseball is perfect??? you can find a hole in EVERY team ?!?!?
Phillies loss isnt shocking??? They were up 1-0 in series and had a 4-0 lead with Lee on the mound, they had their heels in the throat of the cards and to the cards credit, they battled back hard...
dont have a reliable closer??? what game are you watching sir??? Madsen is going to be one of the most coveted releivers this off season, if not the most! Did Madsen blow a game that I missed???
Oswalt? No kidding, but let us know when you find a better FOURTH starter in baseball....and Hamels by good man, is GREAT, he would be the
'ace' on 20 teams...never maddux glavine smoltz...well the phillies already
have one championship during this run, and they did it without halladay and lee, guess who they had as their 'ace' ? hamels....
How many World Series did your threesome win....one.....
I guess you were 'pounding the drum' that Cards were going all the way eh? YOU saw this coming .....give me a break, it 100pct is shocking.Comment
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As a Phillies fan it was just painful. I agree the offense was anemic. And the Phillies didn't show up for about a week in September. But I think credit should go to the Cardinals who just beat us. They outplayed the Phillies during the series and won. Good luck in the NLCS.Comment
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The term 'Dream Team' is a curse for Philadelphia sports this year.Comment
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Now it's complete. ESPN's "dream teams" are all out of the running. This is gonna be an enjoyable pair of LCS rounds.
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Les Zukor
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Oh really? What was inaccurate? I watched Yankees and Phils games all year. The Phils offense other than Ryan Howard (and he strikes out way too much) and Pence since they got him borders on nonexistant. Raul Ibanez was second on the team in homers (20) and RBIs (under 90) and noone batted over .279 who played a full season with them. In one of the best hitter's parks in baseball that is pathic. The place is a launching pad. The hitters are aging and injury prone and the hot prospects like Domenic Brown are not setting the world on fire. As far as Hamels the guy had an amazing 2008 postseason it does not make him an ace just a guy with great stuff who got hot for a few weeks three years ago. He has gotten Cy Young votes once (he finished sixth), never won over 15 games on the best team in the NL for the last several years, and before this year never had an era below three. He also has struck out two hundred batters only once and never finished in the top five in a triple crown stat category. Quality all star pitcher yes, ace no way. Lets be real other than Roy and Verlander there really are no aces in baseball. Guys like Kershaw and Weaver have the potential but they need to do what they did the last two years for at least another year or two before they are "aces." To me an ace is a guy that just dominates for an extended period of time ala Koufax, Gibson, Maddux in his prime, Bo Sox version of Pedro, D Back version of the Big Unit. Guys like Cole, CC Sabathia, Lee and the like are tremendous pitchers but none have truly dominated the league for an extended period of time. Lee especially last year he did not have a great second half when he went to Texas, he was terrible in the World Series and this year he had a rough start to the year and a horrible game in the NLDS. As for Oswalt watch him pitch the guy is not what he was five years ago and is the top fourth starter in baseball but miles from being an ace. In fact Worley was being considered to replace him in the postseason rotation. As for Madson he is not in the league of a Mariano, Brian Wilson or Valerade. In fact two people had to get hurt for him to have the job (Lidge, Contreas). Would you really want him facing Josh Hamilton or Miguel with the World Series on the line?
As for the Yankees the pitching sucks. CC has been a shell of himself since August for some reason, Garcia and Colon are old and inconsistent, Nova is an unproven kid who was in the minors in July and Burnett notwithstanding Game 4 of the ALDS is the most erratic pitcher in baseball. He will give you one great start then folllow it up with four poor ones. The lineup save Granderson, Martin and Cano has serious age, injury and/or underperformance issues ala Arod, Swisher, Tex and Jeter.
So yes, I saw both teams falling short of a title. I felt that the Yankees would be lucky to survive Detriot and if they did the Texas lineup was going to crush them. I thought the Phils were going to have a hard time with the Cards because they were the hot team and their pitching and lineup are well above average. Plus LaRussa has made a career of surprising people. Look at what he did with the 06 team. My honest prediction has been for months that Texas wins it all. They have an amazing lineup, solid though not spectacular starters and a very tough bullpen with a very intelligent manager. Plus they have the experience of coming so close last year.Comment
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The Eagle lives up to his name! Nice rebuttal counselor. Love the part where you simply stated your case with the facts without addressing the immature name calling.
Guys, come on! Aren't we above calling people "morons" or refuting people by being caustic? LegalEagle's reply is a perfect example of how to detail your opinion with specific reasons rather than disputing things with responses that claim a person's intelligence is less than stellar.Comment
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What beats 4 Aces? Apparently some inferior Cards!
Go Reds!Comment
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