Bad Items From "The 6"

[Eric]

Now that the other thread about the 6 people charged with a scheme to sell bad jerseys has been locked, I'm going to take the opportunity to open a new thread. If anyone has any specific information about the scheme, or how bad jerseys were consigned to the auction houses or sold to the card companies, post it here, or email me at ecky3@aol.com if you want it kept confidential.

If you had experiences where one of these dealers bought something from you and it ended up at auction as "game used," post it here.

If you worked in an auction house and heard of the scheme before it was made public, post it here. There must be people out there who can connect the dots. But we must deal in facts.

Eric

[xpress34]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Eric -

Just found a new link that basically covers the information previously discussed 'ad nauseum' in the other thread.

The only difference is this is the FBI's link and has contact info if anyone here has questions or information to add:

Six Men Charged with Fraud Involving Sports Memorabilia

I will be the first to point out that unlike the other links that were previously made available, the FBI does state the following in it's final paragraph on this page:

The public is reminded that indictments and informations contain only charges and are not evidence of guilt. The defendants are presumed innocent and are entitled to a fair trial at which the government has the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Just to show I'm not opposed to making any information I might find totally transparent.

- Smitty

[Eric]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

As of now, I have made 3 attempts to talk with Panini, 1 to Topps and Upper Deck about the jerseys in their cards and have not received a response.

I will keep trying.
Eric

[masp3392]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

As of now, I have made 3 attempts to talk with Panini, 1 to Topps and Upper Deck about the jerseys in their cards and have not received a response.

I will keep trying.
Eric

as a person who collects, but not as much as i've gotten into collecting game worn jerseys, this is disappointing to here that they wont even respond

[camarokids]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

As of now, I have made 3 attempts to talk with Panini, 1 to Topps and Upper Deck about the jerseys in their cards and have not received a response.

I will keep trying.
Eric

It is nice to see you involved and posting on the forum again!

[Fnazxc0114]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Did g/u universe sell any bad JO jersies?

[Lokee]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Did g/u universe sell any bad JO jersies?

Good question. Not sure how we would know the answer though.

Things around here have gotten very shady.

[Eric]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Panini has not responded after 4 attempts on Twitter and 2 emails to employees
Topps has forwarded my request to the proper department
Nothing from Upper Deck.

Just wondering what the card companies have to say about the value of their items being called into question.

I will keep trying.
Eric

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Things around here have gotten very shady.

Hello Mr. Clark,

Your quote above implies some type of impropriety here. As per the forum rules, if you wish to continue your membership here, please substantiate your claims with some evidence that things here have "gotten very shady".

I look forward to your response.

-Chris

[chakes89]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Didn't Fleer sell off a lot of their assets and stockpiled memorabilia when they went out of business a few years back?

If so, it would be interesting to see if any of those items can be tracked down, tracked back to Fleer, tracked back to who Fleer purchased it from and then checked for authenticity.

Time to have a little fun and starting digging around

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Did g/u universe sell any bad JO jersies?

Since when was GUU in the jersey selling business?

[Lokee]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Hello Mr. Clark,

Your quote above implies some type of impropriety here. As per the forum rules, if you wish to continue your membership here, please substantiate your claims with some evidence that things here have "gotten very shady".

I look forward to your response.

-Chris

Sure,

With all the hoopla surrounding JO, peoples ethics and some true colors shown. That is all. You gotta watch your back in the collecting world

Referring to no one in particular. Just a general statement.

Sorry If I offended you. No need to threaten banishment though as i did not call anyone any names like Troll's or anything.

[chakes89]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Since when was GUU in the jersey selling business?

He may be talking about previous GUU Auctions but I could be mistaken

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

Sure,

With all the hoopla surrounding JO, peoples ethics and some true colors shown. That is all. You gotta watch your back in the collecting world

Referring to no one in particular. Just a general statement.

Sorry If I offended you. No need to threaten banishment though as i did not call anyone any names like Troll's or anything.

Actually, your statement is clearly intended to imply some form of impropriety on the part of GUU where none exists. This is not something that will be tolerated. As such, your account has been terminated.

I wish you well in your future endeavors.

Sincerely,
Chris

[SkubeBats]

Re: Bad Items From "The 6"

So what's going on here now people are getting banned for things they post. What about the other topic on these same 6 guys. We were told we could state anything without the chance of getting banned. In those posts there was a lot of pointing fingers and name calling and noone was banned there. Chris you yourself called me a lier and that was proven not to be true! You also called me a TROLL! Both of these comments are against forum rules and you weren't banned. So why is he banned for his comments. He didn't call anyone names or say anything that pionted fingers at you or GUU. What he stated I think was a general response to what has been happining on here in regards to these 6 guys and the other posts.