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  • jake33
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3082

    MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

    I am actually pretty suprised on the turnaround form mlb and authenticators inc. I had a Rays game used hat witha BB hologram sticker that never got put in the MLB database. from 4 years ago.

    I emailed --> authentication@website.mlb.com

    with the required image as a jpeg of the hologram number and less than 3 days later they updated the site, and sent me a notification to let me know. That is the 1st time I ever had success getting a hologram updated. HAs anyone had good or bad stories doing this through mlb?
  • coxfan
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 715

    #2
    Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

    About a year ago, my e-mail to them resulted in a 2010 game-used ball being entered within a week, after there had been a 3-month delay before my e-mail. Their reply to me said the "session has now been reviewed" and then entered, suggesting there was an extra layer of "review" that seemed unnecessary, and may be involved in delays.

    However, someone else here got a "mailbox full" response from his e-mail a few months ago; so apparently service varies. In a thread I started this August I noted that authentication holo's for game-used items this year seemed faster, even next day. Several replied to say they had also noted faster postings for 2011 items.

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    • Mets05
      Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 81

      #3
      Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

      Originally posted by jake33
      I am actually pretty suprised on the turnaround form mlb and authenticators inc. I had a Rays game used hat witha BB hologram sticker that never got put in the MLB database. from 4 years ago.

      I emailed --> authentication@website.mlb.com

      with the required image as a jpeg of the hologram number and less than 3 days later they updated the site, and sent me a notification to let me know. That is the 1st time I ever had success getting a hologram updated. HAs anyone had good or bad stories doing this through mlb?
      Thanks for posting this...I have a game used item from the Tigers and Marc has been zero help, even though I purchased it directly from Marc...Hopefully, MLB will be able to help me out.
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      • Klattsy
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 685

        #4
        Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

        Sweet Jake, i'm going to check this when I get home. My Justin Huber Futures Game helmet has a sticker but no entry. I tried their Twitter feed but got no response, will try the email and hope! Although over Xmas probably isn't the best time...

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        • Rickphils1
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 27

          #5
          Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

          Pretty pathetic that MLB can authentic stuff based on a photo and a hologram well after the fact when they are supposed to get it right at the time they put the hologram on. In my post I complained about their lack of competence that includes mislabeling the player (when name is sewn on the jersey) or autographed ball that is clearly not the player they say it is. If blood banks worked like their system, there would be a lot more transfusion reactions because of the wrong numbers or wrong description assigned.

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          • jake33
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 3082

            #6
            Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

            Also, i do not know why, but it has to be "BB" authentication numbers.

            I have a game used base from 04 with a "MT" authentication and mlb wouldn't touch it even with auction recepits.

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            • dplettn
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 645

              #7
              Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

              It has been my experience that the MLB Authentication Program is second to none with regard to standards. The MLB Authentication Program prioritizes the certainty of accurate authentications above all else.


              So long as humans are executing processes, there will be times where processes are subject to human error, of course. Obviously, things like spelling are easy to fix post facto and MLB does fix anything that can be fixed when you contact them. Some effects of human processes are more profound than others, and I’m certainly not dismissing the observations previously mentioned on this thread.


              The MLB Authentication program is already the standard for leagues in any sport. When the NFL turns the page on its member clubs decisions to sign contracts with JO Sports, you can expect the NFL will look at the MLB Authentication Program as the gold standard.


              I expect the MLB Program will continue to be the gold standard in perpetuity. Why? MLB is not resting on its laurels. Is it smart for MLB clubs to have personnel working in proximity to independent authenticators? Absolutely! Not only can club personnel help to prevent human process errors in batch type authentications such as what was discussed on this thread, the same club personnel can also help the authenticator to recognize opportunities for relevant authentications. So guess what… with increasing club commitments to the program, that appears to be happening; other things too.



              Is it smart to fix process errors, even so small as a misspelling? Yes. And guess what… they do! It boils down to an appreciation of database integrity. And, it is my understanding we’ll observe even fewer misspelled names based on additional process controls.


              As far as the MLB Authentication Program’s responsiveness, I’ve been extremely impressed with the program’s standards, even when I’ve found what can’t be authenticated or can’t be authenticated for greater relevance. The important takeaway was why…. the standard of absolutely certainty.


              Based on the law of large numbers, there will be people who need to address process errors regarding their items. I would encourage those fellow collectors who need to contact MLB to fix process errors (authentication series not in the database, etc) to be mindful in how to best do so. The timing of the MLB Authentication Program’s responsiveness is going to be least advantageous if you contact them during peak periods (ie: All Star Game, Post Season, etc). But know this… as justifiable it may be for MLB authentications could have an arrogant culture, it doesn’t. Whether you’ll “like” a particular response to your query or not, anticipate receiving a response that is well grounded in ideal ideals.

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              • jppopma
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 926

                #8
                Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                I tried to send two emails to MLB on a couple of holograms that never were entered into the system. Both emails came back with mailer demons saying that the mailbox was full. Sounds like this is a common issue with them...makes me wonder if they ever clear it out?

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                • Rays&Mariners
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 287

                  #9
                  Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                  One of my first GU items was a base from the 2008 ALCS between Tampa and the Red Sox. On the mlb auth site it just showed that the base was "3RD BASE,TAKEN OUT AFTER 9TH INNING"

                  I didn't know if that meant it was there the whole game or just the 9th inning or what it was so I emailed mlb and also got the mailbox full mailer demon. After a couple of tries it went through and a couple of weeks later I tried again and got a response...


                  "We apologize for the delayed response. We are have contacted the Authenticator who worked this game and are just awaiting his answer. As soon as we hear back we will let you know. Thank you for your patience.

                  Authenticators, Inc."


                  I never did hear back from them but when I checked the database a month or so later it had been changed to show that the base was "3RD BASE, 3RD - 9TH INNING"

                  So, in my case it took awhile and communication was bad but it was fixed.

                  Eric




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                  • joelsabi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 3073

                    #10
                    Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                    Originally posted by Rays & Mariners
                    One of my first GU items was a base from the 2008 ALCS between Tampa and the Red Sox. On the mlb auth site it just showed that the base was "3RD BASE,TAKEN OUT AFTER 9TH INNING"

                    I didn't know if that meant it was there the whole game or just the 9th inning or what it was so I emailed mlb and also got the mailbox full mailer demon. After a couple of tries it went through and a couple of weeks later I tried again and got a response...


                    "We apologize for the delayed response. We are have contacted the Authenticator who worked this game and are just awaiting his answer. As soon as we hear back we will let you know. Thank you for your patience.

                    Authenticators, Inc."


                    I never did hear back from them but when I checked the database a month or so later it had been changed to show that the base was "3RD BASE, 3RD - 9TH INNING"

                    So, in my case it took awhile and communication was bad but it was fixed.

                    Eric




                    look at the description of the other bases from the game. look up preceding numbers relative to your hologram numbers to locate them
                    Regards,
                    Joel S.
                    joelsabi @ gmail.com
                    Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                    • joelsabi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3073

                      #11
                      Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                      Originally posted by Rays & Mariners
                      So, in my case it took awhile and communication was bad but it was fixed.

                      Eric




                      Just remember that sometimes bases are removed for milestones (stolen base milestones) and because of demand (all star games, playoff game bases, milestone chases).

                      In your case you could discovered the answered to your question by looking at the other bases on mlb database for that game.

                      at least the change in the description makes the change in bases during the game implicit.
                      Regards,
                      Joel S.
                      joelsabi @ gmail.com
                      Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                      • joelsabi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 3073

                        #12
                        Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                        Originally posted by joelsabi
                        Just remember that sometimes bases are removed for milestones (stolen base milestones) and because of demand (all star games, playoff game bases, milestone chases).

                        In your case you could discovered the answered to your question by looking at the other bases on mlb database for that game.

                        at least the change in the description makes the change in bases during the game implicit.
                        correction. explicit.
                        Regards,
                        Joel S.
                        joelsabi @ gmail.com
                        Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                        • Tedw9
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 290

                          #13
                          Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                          Originally posted by joelsabi
                          look at the description of the other bases from the game. look up preceding numbers relative to your hologram numbers to locate them

                          So if I see hologram numbers showing bases from the first inning, then the next numbers show the second inning, and the following numbers show the 9th inning, do I assume that the bases were used from the 2nd through the 8th?

                          I thought I had read somewhere that they use 3 sets of bases per regular season game.

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                          • joelsabi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 3073

                            #14
                            Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                            Originally posted by Tedw9
                            So if I see hologram numbers showing bases from the first inning, then the next numbers show the second inning, and the following numbers show the 9th inning, do I assume that the bases were used from the 2nd through the 8th?

                            I thought I had read somewhere that they use 3 sets of bases per regular season game.
                            probably would say removed after the third inning, sixth inning and ninth inning.


                            LH428091 1 to 3
                            LH428094 4 to 6
                            LH428104 7 to 9

                            I think you are right. I googled and it said 9 bases per game although I don't see the point in changing the bases so often unless you are selling them off for each game like the Yankees do.

                            Thanks for bringing that up.
                            Regards,
                            Joel S.
                            joelsabi @ gmail.com
                            Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                            • coxfan
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 715

                              #15
                              Re: MLB put an hologram number in the database for me

                              I've observed that bases are typically changed after every three innings. This is true in the college game as well as MLB. But for specially-designated games they may do it as often as every inning. That's based not only on demand, but also keeping in mind that some may be given to VIP's, players, etc. from special games.

                              Only recently are you likely to see the innings designated. The base I own, from 2004 Yankees at Rangers, gives only the game date.

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