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  • Eric
    Senior Member
    • Jan 1970
    • 2848

    Am I Crazy???

    Am I crazy, or is there something odd here?

    In one of the major auction houses ending this week I had bids in on two items, also including maximum bids. Note: The pieces were both of the same player, from two different teams.

    On the first item, let's call it "Gamer A" I was the
    high bidder at $322 with a high bid at $690

    On the second item, let's call it "Gamer B" I was the
    high bidder at $220 with a maximum bid at $389

    The following events took place yesterday
    At 1:21:37 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to $389
    At 1:21:52 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to $471
    At 1:22:08 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to $570
    At 1:22:23 PM "Gamer A" was bid up to my maximum of $690 But Not Over, leaving me as the high bidder

    Seconds later
    At 1:22:39 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $266
    At 1:22:42 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $322
    At 1:22:59 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to my maximum of $389 But Not Over, leaving me as the high bidder

    As an experiment, I increased by maximum high bid on "Gamer B" to $835
    Guess what happened today
    At 3:38:20 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $471
    At 3:38:23 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $570
    At 3:38:26 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to $690
    At 3:38:42 PM "Gamer B" was bid up to my maximum of $835 But Not Over, leaving me as the high bidder

    There have been no additional bids on "Gamer A"

    Now am I crazy, or does this seem very convenient that my bids keep going up to my max but not over? Granted both gamers are of the same player- so it is possible someone else out there is a fan of the player, wants these two items and put bids in on both. Because that is a possibility, and we're only talking about 3 instances of the item getting bid to my maximum, I have not included the name of the auction house because honestly I'm not sure if what I think might be happening is actually happening.
    Can I get a reality check here?
    Eric
    moderator
    Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...
  • sammy
    Banned
    • Nov 2005
    • 732

    #2
    No You Are Not

    Eric,


    It's called shill bidding, and you should let us know what piece of garbage auction house is doing this.

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    • josports
      Banned
      • Aug 2005
      • 67

      #3
      Re: Am I Crazy???

      No Eric You Are Not Crazy!!

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      • BoneRubbedBat
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 484

        #4
        Re: Am I Crazy???

        Eric,

        Happened to me also on an auction ending tonight. I'm still the high bidder at my maximum bid. I was also doing it as a sort of experiment. We'll see........

        Marcus Sevier
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        Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.

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        • Eric
          Senior Member
          • Jan 1970
          • 2848

          #5
          Re: Am I Crazy???

          Marcus
          Can you post details like I did above?
          Anyone else out there have the same thing happen to them?
          Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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          • BoneRubbedBat
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 484

            #6
            Re: Am I Crazy???

            Initial bid of $666 at 11:38 12/8, with a maximum of $1020.

            Bid challenged, raising my bid to $806 at 20:52.

            Challenged again, raising my bid to $1100 at 20:58.

            No further bids since maxing out my bid. Still winning as of this post.


            This has been the rule, not the exception with at least two of the auction houses I deal with. I honestly cannot count the number of times this has happened over the years. At first, I felt like "cool, I barely won", but that got old after the tenth time of winning at the maximum bid. I can fairly say that with the two auction houses, I win items AT my maximum bid at least 90% of the time. Coincidence? I don't think so any more. Solutions? I don't know. It's very difficult to boycot certain places when they are selling one of the items you have been looking for for years.

            I wish these people would either put a reserve on an item or just suck it up and take the loss instead of ***king us like this.


            Marcus Sevier
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            Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.

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            • trsent
              Banned
              • Nov 2005
              • 3739

              #7
              Re: Am I Crazy???

              As Mr. T said to me the only time I met him when he used to live in my old hometown of Lake Forest, IL - "Weird, wild happening stuff"

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              • JimCaravello
                Senior Member
                • Jan 1970
                • 1241

                #8
                Re: Am I Crazy???

                Eric - you are not crazy. This stuff has been going on for years. Maybe what we need is our own auction on this site???

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                • Eric
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 1970
                  • 2848

                  #9
                  Re: Am I Crazy???

                  What amazing luck I have

                  No further bids were put on my two items and I won them at my maximum.
                  How did others do?
                  Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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                  • allstarsplus
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3707

                    #10
                    Re: Am I Crazy???

                    Eric - What did you get in last nights auction?
                    Regards,
                    Andrew Lang
                    AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                    202-716-8500

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                    • trsent
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3739

                      #11
                      Re: Am I Crazy???

                      Which auction houses ended last night anyway?

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                      • BoneRubbedBat
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 484

                        #12
                        Re: Am I Crazy???

                        It's amazing.....I won my item at my highest bid also.

                        Eric, do you think we are just that good at predicting how much items are worth and how much they will go for??

                        If anyone wants to know exactly how much their item will go for in an auction, just call me or Eric. LOL

                        Marcus Sevier
                        sigpic

                        Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.

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                        • seven4five20
                          Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 82

                          #13
                          Re: Am I Crazy???

                          (**moderator edited this post** POSTER MADE ACCUSATORY STATEMENTS WITHOUT PROOF) AMERICAN MEMORABILIA still oweS me a check from my consignments in the SEPTEMBER auction. Anyone else have a AM horror story?

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                          • BULBUS
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1123

                            #14
                            Re: Am I Crazy???

                            I havent won many auctions, maybe about 5, but they have all been at my maximum bid. The thing that got me thinking was when I won a game used bat over the summer. I didnt really like the bat, so I wanted to sell it. In my search for a buyer, I found out that the previous owner was one of the authenticators. I was the high bidder late into the night, and woke up to find out that I won the bat at my maximum bid. It was about $400 higher than when I went to bed. So, I dont think you are crazy either.
                            Chris

                            NY Giants, NY Yankees, Don Mattingly, Mattingly brand bats (any player)
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                            • BULBUS
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1123

                              #15
                              Re: Am I Crazy???

                              I didnt mention it in my first post, but mine is an AM experience as well. They also did a horrible job with a couple of items that I consigned with them. The descriptions were garbage. Their writer is more concerned with the players acomplishments, than the item itself. I am done with AM!
                              Chris

                              NY Giants, NY Yankees, Don Mattingly, Mattingly brand bats (any player)
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                              donnie23fan at yahoo.com

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