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  • yanks12025
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 3118

    What ONE is Real??

    Not sure if anyone else has notice this, but what ball if any is the real one.

    http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...e-20th-Century!

  • CampWest
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 1507

    #2
    Re: What ONE is Real??

    Haaa...

    Based solely on a gut call, I'd lean towards Legendary... primarily because they have two Leyritz bats associated with World Series, including the bat with a matching inscription to the ball.

    Both Legendary items have player LOA... Heritage makes no mention of a player LOA.




    http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...e-20th-Century!

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    • CampWest
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 1507

      #3
      Re: What ONE is Real??

      And Legendary has 2 more playoff/WS bats of Leyritz and his world series ring...

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      • lakeerie92
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 1072

        #4
        Re: What ONE is Real??

        That signature is full of hesitation, it looks terrible.
        Russell Wuerffel
        Always looking for Chipper Jones game used bats and authenticated hits and MLB authenticated commemorative logo basballs.
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        • OaklandAsFan
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 745

          #5
          Re: What ONE is Real??

          Originally posted by yanks12025
          Not sure if anyone else has notice this, but what ball if any is the real one.

          http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...e-20th-Century!

          http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotIdNo=37037
          If you ask me based on looks alone I would say the bottom ball looks rubbed up with mud and is game used, I don't think the top link looks like a rubbed up game ready ball IMO.

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          • gnishiyama
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 379

            #6
            Re: What ONE is Real??

            Regardless of which one is the real one, the value of the "real one" has
            been diminished because of the other. Sounds similar to that infamous
            Gretzky puck.
            Goh Nishiyama

            Always buying Japanese Game Used Memorablia

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            • kylehess10
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 3100

              #7
              Re: What ONE is Real??

              The one in Heritage is the one that was owned by Seth Swirsky as being the actual ball:


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              • sayhey24
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 124

                #8
                Re: What ONE is Real??

                A major problem with the Legendary description is that this would not be the last home run of the 20th century. The last HR of the 20th century would be the last home run hit in the 2000 World Series.

                Greg

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                • CampWest
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1507

                  #9
                  Re: What ONE is Real??

                  Originally posted by kylehess10
                  The one in Heritage is the one that was owned by Seth Swirsky as being the actual ball:


                  http://www.seth.com/coll_histbseballs_12.html

                  Reading this description... I am concerned about the Heritage ball...

                  This is the ball that Leyritz hit for the last homer of the 20th century. Just think how many home runs were hit in between Monte Cross' and Jim Leyritz's home runs! The ball comes directly from Leyritz's ex-wife.

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                  Personally, I'd be really curious to know if Leyritz gave the real ball to his ex-wife... Or if he kept the real ball and gave her some "other" less important ball. Especially if it was part of the court mandated "splitting of assets".

                  Coming from the ex-missus, I call that another strike against the Heritage ball.

                  Regarding the bad signature, I think it looks bad because the ink didn't flow well on the first signing and then he tried to overlap it perfectly the second time and that never looks smooth. I've had that happen on a ball I was getting signed and it absolutely ruins it.
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                  • sylbry
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 936

                    #10
                    Re: What ONE is Real??

                    The Heritage ball is way too scuffed up and dirty. And look at the wear on the edges of the panels where the laces are.

                    Would like to see how long the ball was in play before the hr. But I would bet not nearly long enough for it to show that much wear.

                    As far as his wife's credibility, what makes you think Jim wouldn't do the same? Then again, that is the problem with all non-authenticated baseballs.
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                    • CampWest
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 1507

                      #11
                      Re: What ONE is Real??

                      Originally posted by sylbry
                      The Heritage ball is way too scuffed up and dirty. And look at the wear on the edges of the panels where the laces are.

                      Would like to see how long the ball was in play before the hr. But I would bet not nearly long enough for it to show that much wear.

                      As far as his wife's credibility, what makes you think Jim wouldn't do the same? Then again, that is the problem with all non-authenticated baseballs.

                      I was being funny... I make no assertions on either person's credibility... Actually, I was insinuating against Jim's credibility (giving the bad ball to his wife) and his wife's innocently passing off bad items unknowingly.
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                      • joelsabi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 3073

                        #12
                        Re: What ONE is Real??

                        How can these baseballs not pulled from auction until there is some clarification. There are two items claiming to be the same very event specific baseball auctioned off at the same time. Doesn't it make both auction houses look silly?

                        If anything maybe both balls should be in the wifes hands.
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                        Joel S.
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                        • sylbry
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 936

                          #13
                          Re: What ONE is Real??

                          Originally posted by CampWest
                          I was being funny... I make no assertions on either person's credibility... Actually, I was insinuating against Jim's credibility (giving the bad ball to his wife) and his wife's innocently passing off bad items unknowingly.
                          Sorry, I meant you in general terms. Not you specifically.
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