Phony Mike Ditka jersey
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Re: Phony Mike Ditka jersey
I don't know what you find wrong with the jersey - You say it isn't even close, but you don't give reasons why or take any time to call an item out. I'm sure there is a problem you find, but anyone can post a link and say "not even close" and it means nothing.
Explain to us what is wrong with the jersey and the listing and please, let us know what MEARS replied when you emailed them about your findings.
Then your post will hold some weight.
In the meantime, I don't think anyone who bids in the MEARS auctions believes they are bidding on a game used Mike Ditka jersey. This isn't on eBay with millions of visitors a day - This is a private auction house that has mainly game used customers and no one is that crazy to misunderstand their description.
Now, when the jersey was made could be another discussion, but you haven't given any reasons for your concerns or told us what MEARS replied when you questioned the item to them and gave them 24 hours to respond, per Game Used Universe policy. I'm really curious.Comment
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I don't know what you find wrong with the jersey - You say it isn't even close, but you don't give reasons why or take any time to call an item out. I'm sure there is a problem you find, but anyone can post a link and say "not even close" and it means nothing.
Explain to us what is wrong with the jersey and the listing and please, let us know what MEARS replied when you emailed them about your findings.
Then your post will hold some weight.
Compare it to the Mears "9," which features 90 degree angles:
Furthermore, the nameplates don't match. Someone must have mentioned this to Mears, because they changed the listing to reflect this new information.
Authentic Ditka nameplate, with widely-spaced letters:
Mears nameplate, featuring bunched letters and fonts that don't match the ones seen above:
Another problem is that the TV numbers on the Mears jersey are in the wrong place. They should be just above the sleeve stripes, not up near the shoulders.
In the meantime, I don't think anyone who bids in the MEARS auctions believes they are bidding on a game used Mike Ditka jersey. This isn't on eBay with millions of visitors a day - This is a private auction house that has mainly game used customers and no one is that crazy to misunderstand their description.
Now, when the jersey was made could be another discussion, but you haven't given any reasons for your concerns or told us what MEARS replied when you questioned the item to them and gave them 24 hours to respond, per Game Used Universe policy. I'm really curious.
To placate you, I'll email Mears with my concerns.Comment
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Re: Phony Mike Ditka jersey
So forum rules are not for you?
The jersey's description is as follows:
The heavyweight jersey includes its identifiers in single-color royal blue tackle twill. Ditka is spaced to a durene nameplate. Situated in the collar is a Southland Athletic tag. Embedded sleeve striping and elbow reinforcements only add to the aura.
No visible game wear is present, and the player name font is not consistent with available images. Based on the inconsistencies found upon evaluation, we have determined this jersey was not worn by Mike Ditka during his playing days.
Nowhere do they try to pass this as game used. The jersey is a piece of crap pro-cut made years later, but they are not trying to deceive anyone with this jersey.
My biggest question is how you post the jersey is no good, give us a link, but don't explain why it is no good. Thanks for your help. Based on the description I believe I explained the jersey very well in the paragraph above. (a piece of crap pro-cut made years later)Comment
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Re: Phony Mike Ditka jersey
Brendan, just so there is no confusion, here are the forum rules you were missing:
Rule #1 -- You are required to know the rules of the forum - ignorance of the rules will not be a defense.
- In instances where a forum member is identifying an item in the hobby they believe to have issues, the poster should clearly state their findings in the form of an opinion and provide adequate rationale for why they believe there is an issue. When possible, we recommend that the poster questioning an item attempt to contact the seller of the item and allow at least 24 hours for the seller to reply before posting. This will prevent postings that may be generated based on misunderstandings of an item. In addition, while this forum is designed to help educate collectors, we will not allow comments that accuse entities in the hobby of participating in any form of criminal wrong-doing. Any posts suggesting criminal wrong-doing should be brought to the attention of the moderators immediately.
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Re: Phony Mike Ditka jersey
Originally posted by trsentSo forum rules are not for you?
The jersey's description is as follows:
The heavyweight jersey includes its identifiers in single-color royal blue tackle twill. Ditka is spaced to a durene nameplate. Situated in the collar is a Southland Athletic tag. Embedded sleeve striping and elbow reinforcements only add to the aura.
No visible game wear is present, and the player name font is not consistent with available images. Based on the inconsistencies found upon evaluation, we have determined this jersey was not worn by Mike Ditka during his playing days.
Nowhere do they try to pass this as game used. The jersey is a piece of crap pro-cut made years later, but they are not trying to deceive anyone with this jersey.
My biggest question is how you post the jersey is no good, give us a link, but don't explain why it is no good. Thanks for your help. Based on the description I believe I explained the jersey very well in the paragraph above. (a piece of crap pro-cut made years later)
If you go to your website and click on football--game-used equipment--jerseys, the Ditka jersey pops up. But it shouldn't because, as you already conceded, it was never game-used. Unwitting buyers can easily be deceived by such sloppiness. I just think you need to add some language which clearly states that it is some sort of reproduction and not a team-issued piece of equipment. My best guess is that someone got a hold of a plain Southland Athletic jersey and then added the fake numbers and nameplate after the fact.
Based on the inconsistencies found upon evaluation, we have determined this jersey was not worn by Mike Ditka during his playing days.Comment
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Yes, yes I did.Comment
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Re: Phony Mike Ditka jersey
I have noticed a seller on eBay offering several Southland tagged durene jerseys for some time now. Judging by his photos, they look really good. To his credit, the seller is up front that these jerseys are not game used or team issued. But I see future problems ahead, a.k.a. the infamous Scoreboard jerseys and Joe Montana helmets.
Here are other Southlands from random sellers (thankfully these larger sizes are a dead giveaway, and these teams didn't use Southland anyway):
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