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  • 34swtns
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 1120

    Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

    I'm trying to reach him regarding a recent purchase. Is he associated with Grey Flannel? His ebay store is called "Grey Flannel Gallery Lakewood".
    I'd appreciate it if anyone can put me in touch with him.
  • kylehess10
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 3100

    #2
    Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

    I've always wondered the same thing. He told me that he isn't affiliated in any way with Grey Flannel. His stuff looks really suspicious to me. He's always selling Yankees game used yet not one of them comes with a COA from Steiner. They've been selling mostly Yankees helmets and I have never seen a Yankees game used helmet come without a Steiner COA before.
    kylehess941@hotmail.com

    My Game Used Collection:
    http://www.wix.com/kylehess941/gameused


    http://www.kylehessphotography.com/

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    • 34swtns
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 1120

      #3
      Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

      He's not responding to e-mails and I have a definite issue with an item I won from him. Is there any sort of archive of Grey Flannel's previous auctions and their results?

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      • Eric
        Senior Member
        • Jan 1970
        • 2848

        #4
        Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

        What's the item? Maybe i can help find it
        Eric
        Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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        • 34swtns
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 1120

          #5
          Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

          Originally posted by Eric
          What's the item? Maybe i can help find it
          Eric
          Thanks Eric, I'd appreciate any help you can offer as the guy is still not responding to e-mails or phone calls.

          The item in question was a David Terrell Bears Draft Day 2001 jersey. It was listed in Grey Flannel's December 8-9, 2005 auction. Lot# 172.

          The jersey I have pictured (and am holding in my hands) was authenticated by Grey Flannel but is very obviously NOT the jersey Tagliabue handed him.

          I'm attaching some pics. The first pics are of the certs and the Draft Day pic of the jersey. The last 5 pics are of the jersey I received. You be the judge.













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          • TFig27
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 1214

            #6
            Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

            Originally posted by kylehess10
            I've always wondered the same thing. He told me that he isn't affiliated in any way with Grey Flannel. His stuff looks really suspicious to me. He's always selling Yankees game used yet not one of them comes with a COA from Steiner. They've been selling mostly Yankees helmets and I have never seen a Yankees game used helmet come without a Steiner COA before.
            i saw those helmets. they didn't have the number on the brim of the helmet. so, i wasn't too confident on those beign game used
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            • 34swtns
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 1120

              #7
              Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

              Update. Mr. Rosenkrantz finally called me last night. When I explained the situation with the jersey he quickly offered me a refund but at the same time seemed geuinely shocked that I doubted the authenticity of the jersey. I told him Sevie Wonder could see that this is not the jersey from Draft Day! All tagging missing, cuffed sleeves..... and how is it that Grey Flannel authenticated this?! THAT's the scary part. Anyone could've easily pulled up one of the Getty images of the jersey and seen right away that this was not the same.
              I'm still curious about the original auction results for that item. Did it sell, and who would've bought it? My guess is, based on his close proximity to Mr. Terrell's uncle, that Mr. Rosenkrantz submitted the item to Grey Flannel and no one purchased it so he retained ownership. My excuse for buying it is that the ebay auction pictures weren't very telling and omitted the important details which would've kept me from even bidding on it.

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              • kingjammy24
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 3119

                #8
                Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

                "how is it that Grey Flannel authenticated this?! THAT's the scary part."

                par for the course for gfc. keep in mind this is the same firm that recently said "there's very little science to authenticating" in justification of their "all sales final" policy.

                "Anyone could've easily pulled up one of the Getty images of the jersey and seen right away that this was not the same."

                didn't someone once mention that richie isn't web savvy? perhaps pulling getty images presented too great a challenge. how about the meigray arod they authenticated as being a gamer? one phonecall to meigray showed it was game-issued. apparently richie also has trouble using a telephone. according to some forum members, he also has difficulties with email. i'm starting to wonder how he even gets out of bed. thank goodness for friends in high places.

                rudy.

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                • blackbeard
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

                  Originally posted by kingjammy24
                  i'm starting to wonder how he even gets out of bed. thank goodness for friends in high places.

                  rudy.
                  LMAO............
                  :)

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                  • HassanWM
                    Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 52

                    #10
                    Re: Is Howard Rosenkrantz a member here?

                    I'll be adding Grey Flannel to the "Lou Lampson Memorial List".

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