Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

[Preston]

Hey guys,

As you know, I kinda like the Titans a little bit

Got a question - a guy I know has a Randall Godfrey game worn Titans helmet - everything looks good, the #56 number decals are on the back in the correct spot, and the guy offered it to me for $250 - I even went as high as $200 but he WOULD NOT budge. I'm wondering if $250 is a fair price for it given that it's got a LOT of wear and Randall was a decent player - I've never bought a game helmet before and I've learned kinda what to look for.

Two questions I guess - 1. What is fair market value? Is $250 a reasonable price? And 2. Is there any way to date the helmet with a code or anything like that inside/outside the helmet?

Thanks again and I REALLY appreciate the help. I didn't think to take pics because that would have made too much sense. I'm definitely confident in the authenticity, I just want to make sure I'm not overpaying.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Well I say I was confident but I'm starting to think the said helmet is more likely to be worn by Dennis Stallings than Randall Godfrey, because I'm not seeing many game helmets (or any) past 1999 that had number decals on the back of the helmet.

[BrianK]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

The facemask is probably Schutt. Codes below. This is a simple place to start for dating.

3-letter code:
First is month
A = Jan, B = Feb, etc.
2nd is decade
G = 70s, H = 80s, I = 90s, J = 2000s, etc.
3rd is year
A = 1, B = 2, ... I = 9, J = 0.

From what I've seen, $250 is not unreasonable for any NFL helmet if it's genuine.

[mad87man]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

250$ is a pretty good price. Figure a replica is at least 200 so if you get it and just get it signed it would be cool

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

That's very helpful...I'm thinking it's Dennis Stallings which is still cool. I'm working on getting some pics though.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Dumb question - I'll have a few I'm sure

Where on the facemask would the code be, and is there anything on the helmet itself to date it, or just the facemask? That REALLY helps a lot though Brian - I'm definitely keeping that info for reference.

The facemask is probably Schutt. Codes below. This is a simple place to start for dating.

3-letter code:
First is month
A = Jan, B = Feb, etc.
2nd is decade
G = 70s, H = 80s, I = 90s, J = 2000s, etc.
3rd is year
A = 1, B = 2, ... I = 9, J = 0.

From what I've seen, $250 is not unreasonable for any NFL helmet if it's genuine.

[BrianK]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Here's a sample facemask code from an old post. DIG is April 1997.

Yes, the shell is marked too. The mark and location varies by manufacturer and vintage. Generally Schutt heat stamps below one of the earholes - it's a 6-7 digit number that might be followed by a letter or two. Riddell heat stamps a circular mark in the crown as shown in the second photo. Often you have to push the padding aside to find the mark.

Photos would be great. There are some VERY knowledgable helmet people here.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Allright I finally have some pics and some more info - the facemask is a Riddell mask and the inside of the facemask reads Riddell Inc 03-01 (MB) and the second line has the code "NOCSAE".

ANY help is MUCH appreciated - I know Brian had pointed out how to "date" Schutt helmets/facemasks but Riddell I'm not sure how. Anyone know?

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

I really hope these pics and/or the information I obtained helps - I am supposed to let the guy know something by tomorrow. Any help is much appreciated. Is there anything else needed to assist in determining the date of the helmet?

[BrianK]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

This is the reverse of what I guessed. A Schutt helmet with a Riddell mask. Not impossible, but very unusual.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Interesting - do you happen to know how to date riddell facemasks? The number decal on the back matches up to the Titans helmet from 1999 that I found (Dainon Sidney).

I really appreciate all the help Brian - I just want to make 110% sure I'm buying Randall Godfrey's helmet and not Dennis Stallings' helmet, as Dennis didn't play in a regular season game in 1999 but I'm sure practiced a TON.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

Here's the photo for reference...it's a 1999 helmet sold by American Memorabilia

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

I also am trying to 100% confirm the authenticity of this one as well as I am working with the seller on a potential cash/trade. I'm very certain this is legit but with so many helmet experts on here I definitely want to make sure, as any responsible collector would.

Thanks again and I may have to send out thank you cards due to all the help people are offering - this is one reason I really am glad I joined this board. Seriously, the knowledge here is overwhelming.

[Preston]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

I also am trying to 100% confirm the authenticity of this one as well as I am working with the seller on a potential cash/trade. I'm very certain this is legit but with so many helmet experts on here I definitely want to make sure, as any responsible collector would.

Thanks again and I may have to send out thank you cards due to all the help people are offering - this is one reason I really am glad I joined this board. Seriously, the knowledge here is overwhelming.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370641525143?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

My God I think it'd help to include the actual LINK...

I'm more interested in this one than the said Godfrey helmet but ideally will take both based on the findings of authenticity.

[Blitzmaster]

Re: Fair market value price for a game worn Randall Godfrey Titans helmet?

The Riddell date code means March of 2001. In my opinion the Godfrey has too many problems. it's missing the rear flag decal, the placement of the rear decals is wrong, the side clips appear to be the wrong brand and there is no numerical identifiers inside the helmet. eddie george George looks good in my opinion, I thought about buying it but I do not like running backs.