Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

[fandango]

Hello fellow collectors!

This card is a 2002 Upper Deck Ovation...since this set was first sold in the summer of 2002, the cards were produced using 2001 photos, especially considering the production process/ lag time to getting a product into packs...

Pujols aggressive swing and movement toward first base make it seem like GAME ACTION and not batting practice and not spring training when his number was 68....

So, with these minor assumptions in place, can anyone place the time or even the game this picture was taken?

Distinguishing characteristics:
1. His nike blue and red gloves
2. His Nike blue and red creates
3. The small amount of facial hair
4. The long red undershirt...

thanks for any help from the photo matchers out there ...

[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

Hope jeff Scott sees this....

I heard a rumor that Pujols never used a black Sam bat in 2001 but I think that may be wrong...

[Birdbats]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

Based on the shoes and batting gloves, I'd bet this photo was taken early during the 2002 season. I don't recall him wearing those kind of cleats in 2001. Check out Getty Image 522195 from April 3, 2002, and you'll see the similarities.

[hdavid_27]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

I agree with Jeff. The photo on this card is from 2002. In 2001 Albert Pujols wore Red/Gray Cleats on the Road and Red/White Cleats at Home, the pattern was more of a zig zag, vertical lines pattern. In the picture its a blocked in Red/Blue pattern, which he wore in 2002. The Upper Deck Ovation product was released October 25, 2002 so I would absolutely agree that the photo is from 2002.
Also by the look on Pujols' face he did not hit it very well.

[STLHAMMER32]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

I agree with these gentleman, it looks to be early 2002 in the photo...In regards to sam bats in 01... I found this photo saved on my computer. I saved it because I believed it was a photo from his rookie season using a black Sam bat.

[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

Thanks for the input guys!

I do think however, that the Ovation set was released in June, making it seem less likely they could have 2002 photos make it into a new product just 2.5 months later.....

Set date reference http://www.baseballcardpedia.com/ind...r_Deck_Ovation

Again, thanks for the responses!

[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

522195 nice find. Very similar is right...just can't confirm the goatee...which happens to be very distinctive goatee for Pujols...

[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

This is from Oct 10th 2001...looks like very similar if not the same batting glove...and also Sam bat usage...

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[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

Glove and goatee match 8/23/2001
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[Birdbats]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

He started using those batting gloves around late July in 2001, according to photos I've seen. But, the cleats are the giveaway. And, it really isn't improbable that a photo taken in March or April would be used for a set released in June. Even in the '80s, companies would release update sets featuring guys who were traded during the season, in their new uniforms (vs. the '70s when everything was airbrushed). Given the speed of production by 2001, a same-season photo probably wasn't a big deal.

[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

May 2001. Different gloves but a black bat....
Jeff, what black bats did Pujols use in 2001?

[joelsabi]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

What was the GU point of the thread or what were you trying to understand?

Do you own an GU item on that card?
Are you trying to discover the parameter date for photos used on a baseball card?
Are you trying to find the bat records of Pujols using SAM bats?

[joelsabi]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

He started using those batting gloves around late July in 2001, according to photos I've seen. But, the cleats are the giveaway. And, it really isn't improbable that a photo taken in March or April would be used for a set released in June. Even in the '80s, companies would release update sets featuring guys who were traded during the season, in their new uniforms (vs. the '70s when everything was airbrushed). Given the speed of production by 2001, a same-season photo probably wasn't a big deal.

same season photos occurred often on cards even in the 1990's. case in point is all the arod cards from 1994, his callup season. photos were primarily from spring training tho.

[fandango]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

What was the GU point of the thread or what were you trying to understand?

Do you own an GU item on that card?
Are you trying to discover the parameter date for photos used on a baseball card?
Are you trying to find the bat records of Pujols using SAM bats?

Trying to find the provenance for that black Sam bat...based on the 2002 ovation, I know it was games used, I just don't know when it was used...the bat is dated 4/1/01.

[joelsabi]

Re: Photo matching and photo dating Pujols...

Was Pujols invited to Spring Training 2001 and what was his uniform number then?