Lelands Current Auction Items

[beantown]

Thoughts on these? I believe the sleeves are "incorrect" on both of these....anyone????

http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=48&auctionid=611

http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=10&auctionid=611

[beantown]

Lelands, I forwarded this email question to you on the Brady & Manning jerseys you currently have in your auction. Could you please respond...thanks...

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Gentleman,

Hello….the above mentioned items caught my attention, since I believe there are some inconsistencies in each jersey…

Brady – the sleeve length appears to be short for a Brady gamer. If you reference photos from 2005, you will see that there is usually more material after the Patriot sleeve emblem, than there appears to be on this jersey. Another issue appears to be the nameplate, as it is cropped too short and should be longer.

Manning – the sleeve length appears to be inappropriate for a Manning gamer. There have been many Manning jerseys floating around with not enough sleeve length and this appears to be one of them. Again, if you reference photos of Manning you will see the difference.

Can you elaborate as to where the pieces originated from and please address the above mentioned issues? Thank you…

[Mike Heffner]

Hi Beantown,

Keith Vari and myself will be back in the office on Monday and will review the jerseys and respond to your questions. Thanks for you patience.

Mike Heffner

[Mike Heffner]

Update on the two jerseys:

Beantown was correct about the sleeves on the Manning jersey and it is being removed from the auction. Thanks Beantown.

We are still in the process of reviewing the Brady jersey.

Mike Heffner

[worldchamps]

Mike,

Do you have an email address I can send to? there are a couple items I too would like to give my opinion on.


rangersstars@yahoo.com

Bill

[beantown]

Update on the two jerseys:

Beantown was correct about the sleeves on the Manning jersey and it is being removed from the auction. Thanks Beantown.

We are still in the process of reviewing the Brady jersey.

Mike Heffner

Mike,

Hello...I have been working with Keith from your staff, first on the Manning and now on the Brady. Very professional...that in my mind makes Leland's an A+ Auction house as they are willing to listen to what people have to say instead of simply ignoring it...great job :)

[The Lumber Company]

Mike,
Good evening. I was looking at your current Pirates items and you have some nice pieces. I do have a question about the Al Oliver jersey though. I bought that jersey a few years ago and I was told that it was a salesman's sample due to the reversed armband colors. I returned the jersey since I could not find any evidence to contradict that claim. Can you tell me what leads you to believe that this is indeed a game worn jersey?
Regards,
Marty Wallach
Tampa, FL
PS. I collect Pirates World Series Player bats if you ever come across any.

[Mike Heffner]

Hi Marty,

We had those concerns also when we noticed the the reversed colors. The reasons that we have concluded that it is a game worn jersey are: 1) Tagging and manufacturer are consistant with those that were issued to the Pirates players in 1970-71. It has the Rawlings size 42 tag along with the "Do Not Dry Clean" tag in the tail. Furthermore, there is a third tag (totally washed out and very frayed) in the tail sewn next to the other tagging. This tag would have specified an custom alteration like extra or shortened length. This extra tagging would be an oddity on a sample jersey. 2) The use is consitant with other game used jerseys from the era that we have seen. 3) We have located a photo (that we will post on our web site with the Oliver jersey) of Roberto Clemente wearing the same style jersey with the identical color sequence of gold, white, and black on the sleeves.

Based on this information, we believe that one set of Pirates jerseys were made with the sleeve colors "reversed."

Please feel free to call me at 516-409-9700 if you have any further questions.

Mike Heffner

[The Lumber Company]

Mike,
Thanks for the info and quick reply. I would love to see the Clemente photo. I will see if I can find any other supporting evidence to help you.
Regards,
Marty Wallach

[Mike Heffner]

The photo of Clemente wearing the Pirates jersey with the gold-white-black sleeves is now posted along with the other photos of Lot 681 at
Lelands.com.

A very interseting note: Clemente is wearing number 19 in this photo. Do not ask me why! I do know that this photo was shot while Clemente was doing a glove promotion in Puerto Rico.

Mike Heffner

[hblakewolf]

Mike-
Great research!

A fellow Forum reader indicated he returned this particular jersey as he thought it was a salesmans sample. I'm sure this collector is now crying in his Cornflakes this morning, however, it proves once again that doing your homework, and spending the needed time to research game used equipment is mandatory.

On a related issue, what type of LOA's does Leland's provide with your game used auction items?

Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the Forum and for answering questions.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[Mike Heffner]

Howard,

WE, which is a key word, guarantee the authenticty of the game used and all other materials that we sell for a period of three years following the date of the sale. We feel that this is more than adequate time for the purchaser to get second and third opinions if they feel inclined to do so. If the purchaser finds that we made a mistake and the item was not as described in the catalog, he or she may return it for a complete refund. And, we have made mistakes and we have refunded money. For us, it is very important (financially) to make as few mistakes as possible and to look at the items very carefully before we sell them. It is also important for us to pay attention to what other collectors and specialists are saying on boards like this one so we can avoid making any costly errors and provide the hobby with some outstanding items at the same time. With that being said, thanks to all who have brought issues to our attention.

Mike Heffner

[Mike Heffner]

Howard,

Sorry, I forgot to answer your question concerning LOA's. Some of our customers request LOA's which is the only time that we issue them. We ask our clients to keep their invoices just in case they find that we have made and error. The invoice is just as good as the LOA in that it shows that the item was purchased from us.

Mike Heffner