Greed in this hobby

[hairyangryfella]

I have a fairly low opinion of people like jtnbafan - those who don't give anybody else a chance to pick up something they may truly love, just because they can afford any amount of money on an item.

I have just discovered a seller on ebay called zeppelin780 - as I recognized a whole bunch of his items from the recent Grey Flannel and Juliens Elgin Baylor auctions.

Looks like this guy just bought a bunch of stuff to list on ebay at inflated prices - eg this Amare jersey won for $389 http://catalog.greyflannelauctions.c...ed-Home-Jersey

listed for $1650

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-04-Amare-Stoudemire-Phoenix-Suns-Game-Used-Home-Jersey-/350824153573?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51aebfc1e5

And many other examples.

Is the time of the regular fan buying an item they like gone because it's now the time of other people making money?

Guess I'm lucky to own what I do, because in the current state of affairs it looks like I wouldn't have a chance.

Is this ruining the hobby, or is it just someone being clever and seeing an opportunity to possibly make some money?

[Mulligans]

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Interesting opinion.....I find that far worst than the GREED in the hobby is the JEALOUSY.

[hairyangryfella]

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Interesting opinion.....I find that far worst than the GREED in the hobby is the JEALOUSY.

If you're trying to have a go at me, what exactly am I jealous of? I'd love a Lebron jersey but I could never afford it. But what about people like Chris who really want a Chalmers jersey but some guy gets it no matter what the price, as well as every single other jersey....
I had zero interest in that Amare, I couldn't tell if it were legit or not. Yet I'm "jealous" that this guy bought it and is listing it for a big markup? Ok.....

[toddhead]

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Ugh... I had a bad feeling about this post just by reading the title. If someone has worked hard enough to have the resources to purchase the things he wants then why should anyone begrudge that person?

I agree with Mulligans on this one... jealousy seems to be the dominate force in this hobby.

[hairyangryfella]

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Fine, so buying a whole bunch of items for the sole purpose of making a profit on them is accepted on this "collector's" forum... even if people who might have actually wanted them for their collection weren't able to get them because of this person...

[Tunis]

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I guess if someone wanted that Amare jersey they could have just outbid the seller in the original auction......
or
Make an offer less than what he is asking.

There is no guarantee that the seller will get what he is asking. None of our business what he paid for it.

[cohibasmoker]

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Fine, so buying a whole bunch of items for the sole purpose of making a profit on them is accepted on this "collector's" forum... even if people who might have actually wanted them for their collection weren't able to get them because of this person...

So what's your point? Do you want to "occupy" the hobby and this forum?

Just an opinion.

[hairyangryfella]

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I guess if someone wanted that Amare jersey they could have just outbid the seller in the original auction......
or
Make an offer less than what he is asking.

There is no guarantee that the seller will get what he is asking. None of our business what he paid for it.

That Amare is just one example - but he won so many items from each of the auctions, now listed on ebay, it just seems like pure greed to me. And from memory I once tried to negotiate for a card that this guy had listed on ebay and he wouldn't go anywhere near a reasonable offer...

I'm very big on morals, and I just don't like this. I'm also relatively new to the hobby though so maybe there isn't any room for them with game used items...

[hairyangryfella]

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So what's your point? Do you want to "occupy" the hobby and this forum?

Just an opinion.

I don't understand what this means.

I was speaking out against something that seemed kind of against the spirit of game used collecting - buying up large amounts of items and trying to flip them for profit at high prices, outbidding somebody who may have really wanted one but couldn't afford it on the original auction because of this person's attempts to profit.

I see it so much with cards I wanted to know how this hobby felt about it. Looks like you guys don't give a damn. So be it.

[ctguy212003]

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I don't understand what this means.

I was speaking out against something that seemed kind of against the spirit of game used collecting - buying up large amounts of items and trying to flip them for profit at high prices, outbidding somebody who may have really wanted one but couldn't afford it on the original auction because of this person's attempts to profit.

I see it so much with cards I wanted to know how this hobby felt about it. Looks like you guys don't give a damn. So be it.

If you want the item that bad pay the inflated price. Or do you treasure your money collection just as much?? Can't have your cake and eat it to. We're a capitalism type society so if someone can make a sound investment then more power to them. Some times over paying and holding will still bring value years later

[hairyangryfella]

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If you want the item that bad pay the inflated price. Or do you treasure your money collection just as much?? Can't have your cake and eat it to. We're a capitalism type society so if someone can make a sound investment then more power to them. Some times over paying and holding will still bring value years later

You're missing the point - I don't want the items. I just see the type of practices from the basketball card 'hobby' coming into this one, and don't like it. Yet you all seem fine with it.

[nycpropain]

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You're missing the point - I don't want the items. I just see the type of practices from the basketball card 'hobby' coming into this one, and don't like it. Yet you all seem fine with it.

And in the end you can do nothing about it but stomp your feet online.

[CPuente57]

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This is kind of the same boat as this topic, As an NBA Collector, the only thing that frustrates me is the chance of ever winning anything special like a Finals Jersey or an All Star Jersey is basically nil because guys like JTNBAfan or now this new guy Stageleft have what it seems no real max on how high they are willing to go on items. The prices for the NBA Finals Auctions were insane..$2 grand for an issued Jarvis Vernado Jersey??? 6 grand for Mario Chalmers?? You simply cannot outbid these guys ever. Now at the same time, who am I to tell them how they can spend their money?? I think i've read here that JTNBAFan is an actual real collector who really loves the NBA and this hobby so honestly good for him that he's got the resources to grab whatever he wants. Who's to say if I was in that position I wouldn't do the same? Now I do question why he needs to buy every single superstar jersey (especially like the preseason gamers a few months ago..he couldn't let THAT Lebron go??? There were no special patches or anything..regular preseason gamer that they wore in China) but overall it is what it is..I'm sure MLB or NFL have those guys as well.

[yanks12025]

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I know if I had won that 600 million powerball, that I'd be buying EVERY high price baseball jersey or bat. Probably even try to buy the hall of fame.

[marino13]

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I know if I had won that 600 million powerball, that I'd be buying EVERY high price baseball jersey or bat. Probably even try to buy the hall of fame.

+1

I would purchase the Marlins and keep all the visiting team equipment when they drop by!