Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

[Gopack1782]

Hey Guys,

I wanted to get some feedback on a starting pitchers game used jersey. Is it really game used when a pitcher wore the jersey but didn't start or pitch in the game?

Pitcher wore sitting on bench vs Pitcher wore pitching in game?

What are your thoughts?

-Vin

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

I've heard this argument before. To me, it's simple enough: If you don't get in the game, it isn't "game worn."

Ken

[Gopack1782]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

I agree with you Ken, but since he wore it on the bench, I guess it puts it above a game issued jersey that the player didn't even wear?

[camarokids]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

Unfortunately MLB calls it game used even if they only sit on the bench....

[Gopack1782]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

Your right David, I have noticed that.

Then again, wouldn't it be better that it was at least worn at the field during the game vs a player wearing a jersey at a photo shoot of some sort?

[Dewey2007]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

I'd consider it game worn and not game used since he was on the active roster but did not play in the game.

[Dewey2007]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

The terms worn & used are used to indicate the same thing but in this case I think there is a valid discrepancy between the two terms.

[Gopack1782]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

Well put Dewey....

[coxfan]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

There's no set terminology. Many sellers like to stretch the words "game-used" and "game-worn" to include as much as possible (eg a "game-used" chair in a locker room). My own definitions are :1) "Game-used" means required by the rules as part of an official game. 2) "Game-ready" means it can legally become game-used and is available at a game, but doesn't get into the actual game (eg an unused bat in the rack, or ball that stays in the bat-boys' bucket). 3) "Team-used" means used for practice or preparation, but not official per the rules for a game. Many things can be in all three categories at different times, such as a ball or bat used in a game and in practice.

Thus, the official batting-order card given to the umpire is game-used, but the dugout lineup card ( which has no official standing in the rules) is team-used by my definitions. So I'd call a sub's jersey game-ready if he doesn't enter the game. But others might call it game-used by different definitions.

[Gopack1782]

Re: Opinion: Pitcher game used but didn't start or play?

Interesting points also man.